45 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

so, you're a self-loather.

 

noted. 

It's the black privilege.

4 hours ago, TEW said:

But here we are, and this absurd dialectic has a hold on society where you can’t criticize Israel after they do everything from bombing our naval ships to endangering our nuclear triad.

Mark my words - if we give in to allow civilized people fall to barbarian fanatics who cheer on murder, rape, mayhem, kidnapping and the like, it won't be too much time until it happens in our own backyard.

18 minutes ago, Procus said:

Mark my words - if we give in to allow civilized people fall to barbarian fanatics who cheer on murder, rape, mayhem, kidnapping and the like, it won't be too much time until it happens in our own backyard.

We’ve already got people justifying the behavior.  It’s really just a matter of time until domestic half wits decide no one is taking them seriously and tries what has been working so well for the Palestinians.  

7 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

We’ve already got people justifying the behavior.  It’s really just a matter of time until domestic half wits decide no one is taking them seriously and tries what has been working so well for the Palestinians.  

The folks in Gaza are being systematically starved to death.  You sound ridiculous. 

4 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Yeah, you and Dr. Philly are the normal ones

You've finally conceded

12 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

The folks in Gaza are being systematically starved to death.  You sound ridiculous. 

By their own government, who also happen to be repugnant murderers and rapists who maintain incredibly high approval among the population.  I don’t insult anyone on here and I generally like you but you are Fing moron.

7 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

By their own government, who also happen to be repugnant murderers and rapists who maintain incredibly high approval among the population.  I don’t insult anyone on here and I generally like you but you are Fing moron.

Pro-tip:  if you’re echoing Procus you really aren’t very smart.  Sorry pal.

4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Pro-tip:  if you’re echoing Procus you really aren’t very smart.  Sorry pal.

Trying to save face for wanting Hamas to save face is equally a bad look... just speaking generally, not about YOU in particular .

And I'm not talking about George Peppard getting Dirk Benedict out of a jam, so don't even go there.

14 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

Trying to save face for wanting Hamas to save face is equally a bad look... just speaking generally, not about YOU in particular .

And I'm not talking about George Peppard getting Dirk Benedict out of a jam, so don't even go there.

I don’t care about Hamas.  They’re a bunch of zeroes.  I do care about crimes against humanity that are being enabled by the strength and power of the U.S. military.  That’s been my beef from day one.

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

That’s been my beef from day one.

Is it halal?

I don’t spout propaganda without knowing what I’m talking about.  You can go back through this thread and see every post I’ve made was based on knowledge of this situation going back decades, as opposed to the surface level garbage that usually constitutes discourse here.  

Ignoring a truth because you don’t like the people saying it is exactly what makes the MAGA so stupid and dangerous.  You are just like them and were kind enough to crystallize that in your reply.  This most recent flare up of this long standing conflict is showing exactly why so many people that have spent the last decade claiming intellectual superiority to Trump supporters are mostly mirror images of them.  We’re watching the same process that unfolded on the right gaining steam on the left.  The same thoughtless zealotry, the same ends justify the means philosophy, the same enjoyment in cruelty to those you dislike and the same willingness to purposefully ignore relevant context to try to argue why you are right.  
 

 

12 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

I don’t spout propaganda without knowing what I’m talking about.  You can go back through this thread and see every post I’ve made was based on knowledge of this situation going back decades, as opposed to the surface level garbage that usually constitutes discourse here.  

Ignoring a truth because you don’t like the people saying it is exactly what makes the MAGA so stupid and dangerous.  You are just like them and were kind enough to crystallize that in your reply.  This most recent flare up of this long standing conflict is showing exactly why so many people that have spent the last decade claiming intellectual superiority to Trump supporters are mostly mirror images of them.  We’re watching the same process that unfolded on the right gaining steam on the left.  The same thoughtless zealotry, the same ends justify the means philosophy, the same enjoyment in cruelty to those you dislike and the same willingness to purposefully ignore relevant context to try to argue why you are right.  
 

 

I’ve never been afraid to disagree with people who say dumb stuff on here.  Stop with the hyperbole.  And there’s no one more blatantly pro-Israel than Trump.  If that’s not a red flag I don’t know what is.

10 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I’ve never been afraid to disagree with people who say dumb stuff on here.  Stop with the hyperbole.  And there’s no one more blatantly pro-Israel than Trump.  If that’s not a red flag I don’t know what is.

Trump isn’t pro Israel at all.  He’s pro Netanyahu, pro right wing populist extremism, and pro anything that will get him re-elected, which the left are getting closer to gift wrapping for him.  He doesn’t give a crap about anyone but himself and the people that own him. 

3 hours ago, Procus said:

Mark my words - if we give in to allow civilized people fall to barbarian fanatics who cheer on murder, rape, mayhem, kidnapping and the like, it won't be too much time until it happens in our own backyard.

So now pointing out historical facts equates to being Hamas?

Get a grip. This is exactly what I’m talking about with this hysterical dialectic. 

The nerd in me reads that as "dielectric" every time.

5 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Pro-tip:  if you’re echoing Procus you really aren’t very smart.  Sorry pal.

Pro-tip: if you are @Dave Moss, you really aren’t very smart. Sorry pal. 

14 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

The folks in Gaza are being systematically starved to death.  You sound ridiculous. 

Dude, they’re getting the same food our soldiers eat. If Hamas is stealing it, maybe they ought to help the Israeli’s kill them?

14 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

I don’t care about Hamas.  They’re a bunch of zeroes.  I do care about crimes against humanity that are being enabled by the strength and power of the U.S. military.  That’s been my beef from day one.

Hamas are not zeros. That’s precisely the problem.

They are both a governing body and a terrorist group who just killed 1200 people a few months ago. And they enjoy overwhelming popular support.

44 minutes ago, TEW said:

And they enjoy overwhelming popular support

Not Hamas, the Palestinians have overwhelming support.

1 hour ago, Talkingbirds said:

Not Hamas, the Palestinians have overwhelming support.

In Gaza, Hamas is still widely supported among the civilian population.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-poll-shows-palestinian-support-hamas-still-high-despite-mounting-death-toll

Poll shows sustained Palestinian support for Hamas despite mounting Gaza death toll

Survey shows sustained level of support with just 11 percent of Palestinians wanting PA's Mahmoud Abbas to administer the enclave

18 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

The folks in Gaza are being systematically starved to death.  You sound ridiculous. 

Irony much?

your hysterical nonsense supporting terrorists is whats ridiculous

I don't know how reliable polling in Gaza can possibly be right now.

The folks in Gaza don’t want the corrupt and ineffective leader of the PA running things.  I’m shocked.