April 2, 20241 yr On 4/1/2024 at 11:34 AM, vikas83 said: Wow, Trump advocating for the end of the war and subsequent peace is truly chilling to the core.
April 2, 20241 yr Peace at any cost is consistent with Trump's short-term thinking. which is the only kind of thinking he's capable of.
April 2, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Peace at any cost is consistent with Trump's short-term thinking. which is the only kind of thinking he's capable of. You're gonna pretend that Biden is up to some long term, yet-undefined strategy in any of his conflicts? Sorry, that's not consistent with reality. It's amazing how TDS has turned liberals into neocon forever-war advocates. What is Bidens long term goal in Ukraine? He has none. What is his long term goal in Israel? He's literally giving one side aid and the other side bombs. Russia is moving all over Africa and we're losing influence there and Biden has no plan at all, total inaction Literally all over the world there are obvious signs that Biden has absolutely no foresight yet you're living in delightful ignorance
April 2, 20241 yr 43 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: You're gonna pretend that Biden is up to some long term, yet-undefined strategy in any of his conflicts? Sorry, that's not consistent with reality. It's amazing how TDS has turned liberals into neocon forever-war advocates. What is Bidens long term goal in Ukraine? He has none. What is his long term goal in Israel? He's literally giving one side aid and the other side bombs. Russia is moving all over Africa and we're losing influence there and Biden has no plan at all, total inaction Literally all over the world there are obvious signs that Biden has absolutely no foresight yet you're living in delightful ignorance Funny how you can replace the name with that last sentence and it still hold true for maga Quote Literally all over the world there are obvious signs that Trump has absolutely no foresight yet you're living in delightful ignorance
April 2, 20241 yr 51 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: You're gonna pretend that Biden is up to some long term, yet-undefined strategy in any of his conflicts? Sorry, that's not consistent with reality. It's amazing how TDS has turned liberals into neocon forever-war advocates. What is Bidens long term goal in Ukraine? He has none. What is his long term goal in Israel? He's literally giving one side aid and the other side bombs. Russia is moving all over Africa and we're losing influence there and Biden has no plan at all, total inaction Literally all over the world there are obvious signs that Biden has absolutely no foresight yet you're living in delightful ignorance The goal in Ukraine is simple. Provide support to Ukraine to neutralize the threat of Putin's empire-building. Keep the battle lines in Ukraine-Russia without turning it into full-scale world war. Sanction the crap out of Russia to make Putin's war mongering expensive. Deplete Russia before they get the chance to destroy anyone else. We have the resources to outlast Putin only if we stay the course. Nobody has figured out the long term goal for Israel in over 70 years. Pfft. Russia is moving over Africa in places that do not want to deal with the West. LINK They are aspiring authoritarians sympathetic to dictators like Putin and his conquests. Russian influence is still relatively small, but growing. You could say the same is occurring here in America. Maybe you missed Biden's investment in Africa. LINK I wouldn't blame you if you weren't paying attention.
April 3, 20241 yr One of the chief reasons to avoid war is that MANY innocent lives are inevitably lost in the conflict. Sometimes whole cities are fire bombed.
April 3, 20241 yr 19 hours ago, toolg said: The goal in Ukraine is simple. Provide support to Ukraine to neutralize the threat of Putin's empire-building. Keep the battle lines in Ukraine-Russia without turning it into full-scale world war. Sanction the crap out of Russia to make Putin's war mongering expensive. Deplete Russia before they get the chance to destroy anyone else. We have the resources to outlast Putin only if we stay the course. Nobody has figured out the long term goal for Israel in over 70 years. Pfft. Russia is moving over Africa in places that do not want to deal with the West. LINK They are aspiring authoritarians sympathetic to dictators like Putin and his conquests. Russian influence is still relatively small, but growing. You could say the same is occurring here in America. Maybe you missed Biden's investment in Africa. LINK I wouldn't blame you if you weren't paying attention. How is that neutralizing working out? When can we expect any of that Russian neutralization to have an effect? 2030? It's already a full scale war. What are you talking about?? And what do you mean we are going to outlast Putin? You seriously think without fostering a forever war in Ukraine the USA would fall before Putin dies? This makes absolutely no sense, it's self-justifying warmongering. The neocon force is strong with the modern liberal. And yeah those nations in Africa don't want to deal with "the West" (you sound like Putin himself) because the US has showed zero leadership and only offered sanctions. Piss poor long term strategic focus for the dementia POTUS.
April 3, 20241 yr 20 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Peace at any cost is consistent with Trump's short-term thinking. which is the only kind of thinking he's capable of. As opposed to the 5D chess thinking of Biden. Got it!
April 3, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: The neocon force is strong with the modern liberal. It's not that the neocon force is strong with the modern liberal, it's that the modern liberal thinks what she's told to think.
April 3, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: The Biden administration also scolded Hamas for intentionally murdering over a thousand civilians on October 7. Ah, but what's intentional murder have to do with any of this, right??
April 3, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, Procus said: It's not that the neocon force is strong with the modern liberal, it's that the modern liberal thinks what she's told to think. Yep, entire worldview is dictated by what the tv says at any given moment. Fascinating to watch, really.
April 3, 20241 yr 20 minutes ago, Procus said: It's not that the neocon force is strong with the modern liberal, it's that the modern liberal thinks what she's told to think. ah, yes, MAGAs - the epitome of independent thinkers
April 3, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: ah, yes, MAGAs - the epitome of independent thinkers wait, a bleach drinker isn't an independent thinker?
April 3, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, Procus said: It's not that the neocon force is strong with the modern liberal, it's that the modern liberal thinks what she's told to think. The irony…its burns
April 3, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: The irony…its burns How so? I guess you're ok with high inflation, open borders and war on the horizon when we had low inflation, a sound economy, a secure border and peace under Trump. I'll gladly take that with bad rhetoric and mean tweets over what we have today.
April 3, 20241 yr Surely all these indictments are a result of bad rhetoric and mean tweets. Yes sir, that's a President I want.
April 3, 20241 yr 37 minutes ago, Procus said: How so? I guess you're ok with high inflation, open borders and war on the horizon when we had low inflation, a sound economy, a secure border and peace under Trump. I'll gladly take that with bad rhetoric and mean tweets over what we have today. you're a goddamn fool if you think Trump had anything to do with a "sound economy", low inflation, or "peace". Trump was lucky for three years, did not pull us out of any wars (though he did abandon our Kurdish allies, so I guess you have that ), and the only crisis he faced in his four years he completely screwed up giving us years of memes about injecting bleach and UV light curing Covid. inflation is predominantly the result of Covid, and compared to other advanced economies the US is faring incredibly well. if Trump had won in 2020 inflation would be just the same, he would have allowed Putin to roll over Ukraine, & NATO would be much weaker for starters. Instead Putin is being stalemated by a country 1/3rd its size, and NATO has two new and strong member nations. China is being outmaneuvered with the Quad alliance, we actually passed an infrastructure bill, and we're out of Afghanistan.
April 3, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: How's the cucksforzionism club feeling today? safe and well fed, thanks for asking
April 3, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Mike31mt said: How is that neutralizing working out? When can we expect any of that Russian neutralization to have an effect? 2030? Pretty good. Kyiv did not fall. Russia has retreated back to Donbas. 3 hours ago, Mike31mt said: It's already a full scale war. What are you talking about?? World War. Currently it is a border conflict. Let's hope it stays that way. 3 hours ago, Mike31mt said: And what do you mean we are going to outlast Putin? You seriously think without fostering a forever war in Ukraine the USA would fall before Putin dies? This makes absolutely no sense, it's self-justifying warmongering. We must prove to Putin he cannot build an empire by force. Because if we let Russia take Ukraine, who's next? Finland? Poland? Putin is like a petulant child, he will not stop until we tell him no. We have to show him we mean it. Call me what you want, neocon/liberal... I stand for a strong United States of America.
April 3, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: you're a goddamn fool if you think Trump had anything to do with a "sound economy", low inflation, or "peace". Yet you'd give credit to Biden for all of the above wherever you could. Biden was lucky to inheret the COVID economy. Otherwise he wouldve never been elected and wouldnt stand a snowballs chance in hell in 2024 since he has literally no accomplishments to run on.
April 3, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, toolg said: Pretty good. Kyiv did not fall. Russia has retreated back to Donbas. World War. Currently it is a border conflict. Let's hope it stays that way. We must prove to Putin he cannot build an empire by force. Because if we let Russia take Ukraine, who's next? Finland? Poland? Putin is like a petulant child, he will not stop until we tell him no. We have to show him we mean it. Call me what you want, neocon/liberal... I stand for a strong United States of America. So continuing a war is preventing a war? Sounds like inconsistent logic to me. We already told him no, he invaded Ukraine anyway. The only logical next step is a direct conflict. I don't see how engaging in a neverending proxy war makes a broader war less likely. I actually think it's the opposite. Do you see an outcome where Ukraine wins this conflict? And what do you mean we "have to show him we mean it?". None of this has strengthened the US at all.
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