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58 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I consider myself more of a neo-liberal if anything.

I'm not a hawk. But I'm also not so naive as to believe war is never the solution.

War should be avoided wherever possible, and I was against the Iraq invasion from the beginning.

Israel & Gaza have a long and complicated past. You can selectively edit history, pick slices of history, or read some revisionist history of the last 100 years in the region and find a way to argue that either side is most at fault. But at the end of the day it's Israel that has been attacked since its inception, and it's Israel that Palestinians and other Arabs want "wiped off the map". 

Without US support there would have been a second Holocaust in Israel. 

Remember that scene in Trading Places where Dan Aykroyd pawns his watch?  Well in Mossistan you're one notch short of a full on neo-notzee.

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2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Remember that scene in Trading Places where Dan Aykroyd pawns his watch?  Well in Mossistan you're one notch short of a full on neo-NSDAP.

this is all i remember 

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Iranian drones launched toward Israel

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Iranian drones launched toward Israel

it's the last bullet in their ch...

nah

25 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Iranian drones launched toward Israel

The U.S. is in a lose-lose situation here.

This is what happens when people think their revenge is justified. 

As war breaks out between Iran and Israel, let's not forget that the Biden administration released $10B to Iran last month.

7 minutes ago, Procus said:

As war breaks out between Iran and Israel, let's not forget that the Biden administration released $10B to Iran last month.

And let’s never forget that Trump released $10B to Iran every year from 2018-2020. 

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1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

The U.S. is in a lose-lose situation here.

I’m not seeing a lot of good in it for anyone. 

5 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

I’m not seeing a lot of good in it for anyone. 

So just suck it up and do the necessary evil

 

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Biden controls the UN now??

:wacko: 

Oh, ok  (from October 2023)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna121075

 

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Hmmmm, interesting

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Trump saying "they’re not wrong” is crazy.  

the guy waving his Trump sign upside-down

:roll: :roll: 

Ok, there’s no doubt that Biden is a big supporter of Israel…

but a Trump crowd chanting "Genocide Joe” when Trump is a full-blown Zionist is absurd.  I’m honestly speechless 

 

13 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

The same way Trump is gonna free us from Biden.  B-)
 

Is it really surprising John Snow and Vikas are using George W. Bush’s language though?  It’s not to me.  Neo-cons are gonna neo-con.  Right out of the Richard Perle playbook

You’re not nearly intelligent enough to have an opinion on my views on anything. 

Seems like Iran sent the slow moving bulldozers from Austin Powers on purpose. They had to do something to save face, but likely wanted them shot down so as not to get pulled into a full scale war with Israel and the US.

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6 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Seems like Iran sent the slow moving bulldozers from Austin Powers on purpose. They had to do something to save face, but likely wanted them shot down so as not to get pulled into a full scale war with Israel and the US.

Uber super over the top level sabre rattling for sure.  However, I think it was too much not to retaliate.  I think there is a high risk that Israel will strike in Iran likely targeting the Iranian nuclear program.  On the other hand, they may settle by striking Iranian backed groups in Syria/Iraq which is for sure the option that the US will push for.

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6 hours ago, vikas83 said:

You’re not nearly intelligent enough to have an opinion on my views on anything. 

Logic and actual analysis has never been his strong suit.

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