April 19, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: there's $9.1B for humanitarian aid in Gaza, that's probably going to be the most liquid amount because oftentimes we provide aid through intermediaries I believe. cash money is the most fungible of resources here, but it's so fungible it's also where corruption tends to concentrate so it's perfectly reasonable to question it. 9.1 billion???? That's 15k for each of the 600k people there. What the hell are we buying them? Detroit has the same population and pretty much looks the same structurally in some places. Hell, the demographics are probably similar now as well.
April 19, 20241 yr 39 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: 9.1 billion???? That's 15k for each of the 600k people there. What the hell are we buying them? Detroit has the same population and pretty much looks the same structurally in some places. Hell, the demographics are probably similar now as well. I assume part of it is to rebuild expensive infrastructure like hospitals. Frankly Israel should foot the bill for that.
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April 19, 20241 yr 19 hours ago, Dave Moss said: Agree, but I’ll go further. The U.S. has no moral superiority over China when it’s greenlighting its own genocide in Gaza. In some ways I think Biden’s foreign policy is actually worse than Trump’s because the Biden folks think they’re only doing good for the world. Whereas the Trump camp openly admits they don’t care about the rest of the world by screeching "America first” all the time. Man Israel must really suck at this whole genocide thing. 6 months of war and all they could accomplish so far was 7,000 - 10,000 civilian casualties with one of if not the highest combatant to civilian casualty ratio in modern urban warfare scenarios.
April 20, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, DrPhilly said: That was a laughable comparative analysis and from a history professor to boot. "Professor”…lol
April 20, 20241 yr 21 hours ago, Dave Moss said: The U.S. has no moral superiority over China when it’s greenlighting its own genocide in Gaza.
April 21, 20241 yr On 4/19/2024 at 5:08 PM, JohnSnowsHair said: Frankly Israel should foot the bill for that. Really? 1. The hospital was a terror base 2. Funded in large part by Qatar. Why shouldn't Qatar be financially responsible?
April 21, 20241 yr On 4/19/2024 at 12:14 AM, Dave Moss said: Agree, but I’ll go further. The U.S. has no moral superiority over China when it’s greenlighting its own genocide in Gaza. Do you know what genocide is Dave? Why don't you share your definition with us. We're all ears here.
April 21, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Procus said: Really? 1. The hospital was a terror base 2. Funded in large part by Qatar. Why should Qatar be financially responsible? Technically the entire gaza strip is a terror base, but that doesn't mean they should nuke it into oblivion.
April 21, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Procus said: Really? 1. The hospital was a terror base 2. Funded in large part by Qatar. Why shouldn't Qatar be financially responsible? My point was that if it's to be rebuilt, and infrastructure destroyed during Israel's operations in Gaza include hospitals, the US shouldn't be footing the entire bill. Why SHOULDN'T Israel be part of the rebuilding process?
April 21, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Gannan said: Technically the entire gaza strip is a terror base, but that doesn't mean they should nuke it into oblivion. What you said makes no sense. Hamas used the hospital as a terror base. It's what they do. The Israelis rightfully invaded and took out the bad guys. Should they have continued to allow Hamas to use the hospital as a base for terror with impunity? And FWIW, I haven't seen the Israelis nuke Gaza. If I am mistaken, please advise how so.
April 21, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: My point was that if it's to be rebuilt, and infrastructure destroyed during Israel's operations in Gaza include hospitals, the US shouldn't be footing the entire bill. Why SHOULDN'T Israel be part of the rebuilding process? The U.S. shouldn't be footing ANY of the bill to rebuild Gaza - the Qataris are financially responsible in large part for building up Hamas and creating the terror quasi-state. Why shouldn't they foot the bill? And why should the Israelis be rebuilding structures for their enemies who massacred them without provocation?
April 21, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, Procus said: Do you know what genocide is Dave? Why don't you share your definition with us. We're all ears here. No, I don’t. I guess I need a fake lawyer to tell me.
April 21, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, Procus said: The U.S. shouldn't be footing ANY of the bill to rebuild Gaza - the Qataris are financially responsible in large part for building up Hamas and creating the terror quasi-state. Why shouldn't they foot the bill? And why should the Israelis be rebuilding structures for their enemies who massacred them without provocation? Because rebuilding a society in good faith the ruins of a conquered nation has proven a viable path to lasting peace before.
April 21, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: I honestly thought he set himself on fire the other day.
April 21, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: No, I don’t. I guess I need a fake lawyer to tell me. If you don't know what the word genocide means, why do you keep using the word genocide?
April 21, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Because rebuilding a society in good faith the ruins of a conquered nation has proven a viable path to lasting peace before. The Marshall Plan in Europe and the rebuilding of Japan are good examples. But they were also accompanied by de-Nazification in Germany and its equivalent in Japan. Who do you propose to conduct similar activities in Gaza post-war?
April 21, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Procus said: If you don't know what the word genocide means, why do you keep using the word genocide? Because I’m waiting for a fake lawyer to tell me what it is. 2 minutes ago, Procus said: The Marshall Plan in Europe and the rebuilding of Japan are good examples. But they were also accompanied by de-Nazification in Germany and its equivalent in Japan. Who do you propose to conduct similar activities in Gaza post-war? Both were due to fears that communism would take root in Western Europe and Japan. Japan became a key ally against communist China.
April 21, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Because I’m waiting for a fake lawyer to tell me what it is. There's this thing called Google. Try it sometime. You might learn something.
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