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5 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

:lol: No one cares what you think, bish

Apparently you cared enough to respond. 

Your lack of awareness is astounding. How in the F were able to dodge that coathanger?

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Palestinian gunmen are seen at a UNRWA logistics center in southern Gaza’s Rafah and near United Nations vehicles, in IDF drone footage from the weekend.

According to the IDF, the gunmen were spotted by troops of the Givati Brigade on Saturday at UNRWA’s logistics center in eastern Rafah.

The video shows the gunmen next to UN vehicles and in the logistics compound itself, which the IDF says is used by the UN body to deliver humanitarian aid.

The IDF says one clip also shows a gunman opening fire inside the complex. 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-drone-footage-shows-palestinian-gunmen-inside-unrwa-logistics-center-in-rafah/

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7 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Biden needs to learn U.S. history

Maybe you can teach him.  On second thought, never mind.

6 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Palestinian gunmen are seen at a UNRWA logistics center in southern Gaza’s Rafah and near United Nations vehicles, in IDF drone footage from the weekend.

According to the IDF, the gunmen were spotted by troops of the Givati Brigade on Saturday at UNRWA’s logistics center in eastern Rafah.

The video shows the gunmen next to UN vehicles and in the logistics compound itself, which the IDF says is used by the UN body to deliver humanitarian aid.

The IDF says one clip also shows a gunman opening fire inside the complex. 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-drone-footage-shows-palestinian-gunmen-inside-unrwa-logistics-center-in-rafah/

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Hamas stealing supplies to starve the Palestinian people, aka genocide :angry:

12 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Biden needs to learn U.S. history

Rodgers makes history as the first athlete to be diagnosed with CTE prior to his death.

 

that is f'd up. 

20 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Biden needs to learn U.S. history

I wouldn't be opposed to bringing back the ghost of Joseph McCarthy and having some hearings on who is connected to the Kremlin. 

23 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

"If Biden doesn't solve a centuries old conflict in the Middle East, he's a complete failure!" 

:lol:

I think many of us would like to see Biden and his regime lead the effort to stop the current conflict through de-escalation techniques and negotiation with all sides. No one is asking or has asked him to solve the 2000+ year Middle East Crisis (that would be ridiculous). Just the current one will do.  Many of us are concerned at the lack of progress across the many conflicts that your, and my, tax payers money are funding at present. 

Why hasn't Biden (as leader of the free world) met the leaders of Israel or Hamas to put face to face pressure on them to negotiate a ceasefire?  It's not a hard question to answer, so I can only assume you can't or won't answer it.

6 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

I think many of us would like to see Biden and his regime lead the effort to stop the current conflict through de-escalation techniques and negotiation with all sides. No one is asking or has asked him to solve the 2000+ year Middle East Crisis (that would be ridiculous). Just the current one will do.  Many of us are concerned at the lack of progress across the many conflicts that your, and my, tax payers money are funding at present. 

Why hasn't Biden (as leader of the free world) met the leaders of Israel or Hamas to put face to face pressure on them to negotiate a ceasefire?  It's not a hard question to answer, so I can only assume you can't or won't answer it.

The U.S. doesn’t negotiate with terrorists (with the exception of the Reagan administration).

1 minute ago, UK Eagle said:

I think many of us would like to see Biden and his regime lead the effort to stop the current conflict through de-escalation techniques and negotiation with all sides. No one is asking or has asked him to solve the 2000+ year Middle East Crisis (that would be ridiculous). Just the current one will do.  Many of us are concerned at the lack of progress across the many conflicts that your, and my, tax payers money are funding at present. 

Why hasn't Biden (as leader of the free world) met the leaders of Israel or Hamas to put face to face pressure on them to negotiate a ceasefire?  It's not a hard question to answer, so I can only assume you can't or won't answer it.

I know right? First he botched the Afghanistan negotiations with the Taliban at Camp David and now he can't even negotiate an end to this conflict or the Ukraine conflict either! If only he would read The Art of the Deal so he could learn a thing or two about how deal making is done then we'd be in much better shape, amirite mate?

22 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

The U.S. doesn’t negotiate with terrorists (with the exception of the Reagan administration).

 

Netanyahoo has no plan other than "kill as many Hamas as possible." Yeah, that strategy has always worked with insurgencies. We are hitching our cart to a fascist blowhard with zero strategic acumen heading up a rogue ethnostate. This should end well.

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17 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Netanyahoo has no plan other than "kill as many Hamas as possible." Yeah, that strategy has always worked with insurgencies. We are hitching our cart to a fascist blowhard with zero strategic acumen heading up a rogue ethnostate. This should end well.

There is nothing wrong with the "kill as many Hamas as possible" part.  The issue is whether or not there is a plan for the aftermath.  So far, there is no indication of there being a well thought out design after Hamas is destroyed.  Least not what I've read.

Just now, DrPhilly said:

There is nothing wrong with the "kill as many Hamas as possible" part.  The issue is whether or not there is a plan for the aftermath.

 

That's the problem: There is none, and when you indiscriminately kill thousands of civilians along with the terrorists, you just create more terrorists.

15 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

The U.S. doesn’t negotiate with terrorists (with the exception of the Reagan administration).

Taking from the UK and Ireland history, you had Sinn Fein and the IRA (and other similar structures in Irish/Columbian etc groups) - one and the same org for all intents and purposes - but you could negotiate with Sinn Fein (the political party) in the hope of progressing things with the IRA (terrorists). Even if Sinn Fein's leaders in people like Adams and McGuiness (who allegedly used to be terrorists) are the leadership of the party, that's the price of getting peace in the long term.  It's never going to be perfect.

In this scenario, they could use Qatar, Saudi, Egypt or Jordan as proxies for that, more than they are today or find someone more neutral to take the squabbling out of it. Would make Israel lean forward if, for example, the US started taking control from the top of the tree - even if that top of the tree is someone like Obama stepping in as it would his sole focus vs a domestic agenda and election for Biden to concentrate on. At this point, Israel can rely on your for money and munitions, and choose to play dumb as it suits,  The moment that it feels at risk, a solution may present.

At some point, there has to be some progress - Blinken looks stretched thin and incapable of moving the needle, and lacking in personal power or the nous to move it along. 

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1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

That's the problem: There is none, and when you indiscriminately kill thousands of civilians along with the terrorists, you just create more terrorists.

Maybe.  I can see it being the case at the moment.  This is where western leadership and influence needs to come in.

11 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Maybe.  I can see it being the case at the moment.  This is where western leadership and influence needs to come in.

Trump should put you in charge of our Middle East policy in January

25 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

There is nothing wrong with the "kill as many Hamas as possible" part.  The issue is whether or not there is a plan for the aftermath.  So far, there is no indication of there being a well thought out design after Hamas is destroyed.  Least not what I've read.

Sure there is.  It should be "kill every last member of Hamas"

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2 minutes ago, paco said:

Sure there is.  It should be "kill every last member of Hamas"

Agreed.  Then what?

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11 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Trump should put you in charge of our Middle East policy in January

Ok

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Agreed.  Then what?

resurrect the Ottoman Empire, of course

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Just now, paco said:

resurrect the Ottoman Empire, of course

ahh right, silly of me to forget that

35 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

That's the problem: There is none, and when you indiscriminately kill thousands of civilians along with the terrorists, you just create more terrorists.

And how does one go about eliminating enemy combatants while leaving civilians unharmed along the way?  Especially when said enemy combatants are not separate from the civilian population out in some field somewhere meeting for battle.  Can you provide one example of a war in the past 200 years where thousands of civilians were not killed?  

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