May 17, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said: Absolutely. But one of Hamas' goals is to maximize civilian casualties. The only arena Hamas can win in is the PR arena, in which they can spread propaganda making it seem like Israel isn't doing anything to minimize civilian casualties, and gullible news outlets and gullible world leaders eat up that propaganda and contribute to further spread. Just like they did for all these months with the bogus civilian casualty numbers. Even Netanyahu says the number of deaths is over 30,000. Propagandists like you and some of the other folks here just have an agenda
May 17, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: Even Netanyahu says the number of deaths is over 30,000. Propagandists like you and some of the other folks here just have an agenda yeah, the agenda of not being gullible. thanks for noticing.
May 17, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said: yeah, the agenda of not being gullible. thanks for noticing. So Netanyahu is trying to exaggerate the number of civilian deaths? For what reason?
May 17, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Even Netanyahu says the number of deaths is over 30,000. Propagandists like you and some of the other folks here just have an agenda Yes Netanyahu said 3 days ago that the TOTAL casualty figure is around 30,000, with roughly half of that being enemy combatants. That's much different than claiming over 30,000 CIVILIANS have been killed. Hamas claimed that the total death toll hit 30,000 TWO MONTHS AGO, and that the majority of those deaths were women and children. No propaganda coming from me. No agenda from me other than the truth.
May 17, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Even Netanyahu says the number of deaths is over 30,000. Propagandists like you and some of the other folks here just have an agenda 20 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: So Netanyahu is trying to exaggerate the number of civilian deaths? For what reason? Neat how you went from 30,000 deaths to 30,000 civilian deaths in just one post to fit your faux genocide narrative.
May 17, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: Yes Netanyahu said 3 days ago that the TOTAL casualty figure is around 30,000, with roughly half of that being enemy combatants. That's much different than claiming over 30,000 CIVILIANS have been killed. No propaganda coming from me. No agenda from me other than the truth. So where did you get the 8,000 number from? Just made up b.s.
May 17, 20241 yr Just now, Dave Moss said: So where did you get the 8,000 number from? Just made up b.s. I must have missed something. 8,000?
May 17, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: Neat how you went from 30,000 deaths to 30,000 civilian deaths in just one post to fit your faux genocide narrative. Right because everyone is Hamas
May 17, 20241 yr Just now, Dave Moss said: Yao where did you get the 8,000 number from? Just made up b.s. why are you so adamant about blaming everything on israel and trying to make hamas look like the victim? who hurt you?
May 17, 20241 yr Just now, Dave Moss said: Right because everyone is Hamas Um.... nooooo. But not everyone is a civilian either.
May 17, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: So where did you get the 8,000 number from? Just made up b.s. Where are you getting that number from? When have I claimed that only 8,000 people have died?
May 17, 20241 yr Just now, Alpha_TATEr said: why are you so adamant about blaming everything on israel and trying to make hamas look like the victim? who hurt you? This post made a lightbulb go off and I think I got it. @Dave Moss: Not to get personal, but are you circumcised? Just trying to get to the bottom of your deep seeded hatred of jewish people.
May 17, 20241 yr Just now, Phillyterp85 said: Where are you getting the idea that I claimed that only 8,000 people have died? Right? He's having a very normal one before I even had a chance to finish my first cup of tea
May 17, 20241 yr Hamas TWO MONTHS AGO: The death toll has reached 30,000 with the majority being women and children Netenyahu 3 days ago: The death toll is now around 30,000 with about half being enemy combatants for nearly a 1:1 civilian to combatant ratio Moss: See even Netenyahu agrees with Hamas' numbers.
May 17, 20241 yr Author 12 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: Yes Netanyahu said 3 days ago that the TOTAL casualty figure is around 30,000, with roughly half of that being enemy combatants. That's much different than claiming over 30,000 CIVILIANS have been killed. Hamas claimed that the total death toll hit 30,000 TWO MONTHS AGO, and that the majority of those deaths were women and children. No propaganda coming from me. No agenda from me other than the truth. Moss don't do math, he/she/other's a feelings guy/girl/other not a numbers guy/girl/other @Dave Moss
May 17, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: Hamas TWO MONTHS AGO: The death toll has reached 30,000 with the majority being women and children Netenyahu 3 days ago: The death toll is now around 30,000 with about half being enemy combatants for nearly a 1:1 civilian to combatant ratio Moss: See even Netenyahu agrees with Hamas' numbers. Yeah, and you said 8,000. So like, who do I believe. You or Netanyahu?
May 17, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, paco said: This post made a lightbulb go off and I think I got it. @Dave Moss: Not to get personal, but are you circumcised? Just trying to get to the bottom of your deep seeded hatred of jewish people. Are you asking me for a dick pic, bro??
May 17, 20241 yr By the way: Some numbers for context: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8581199/ Korean War: 1.65 million civilian deaths. Civilian casualty rate of 74% Persian Gulf War: 142-206 thousand civilian deaths. Civilian casualty rate of 88% 2nd Iraq War: 184-207 thousand civilian deaths. Civilian casualty rate of 67% And by the way, Saudi Arabia has been at war with Yemen since 2015, and we've been supplying them with weapons. By the end of 2021 it was estimated that around 377,000 Yemenis had died. Where were are the tent cities on campuses and protests all those years? Where were all the students going on hunger strikes demanding that the US stop supplying the Saudi's with weapons? Where were all the BDS protests for our involvement with the Saudis? Weird right...... But yeah tell me again how all these protests have nothing to do with anti-Jewish sentiment and are really just protests for the plight of the Palestinian people....
May 17, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Yeah, and you said 8,000. So like, who do I believe. You or Netanyahu? I'll ask once again, where did I say the total death count was 8,000? Please show me that post.
May 17, 20241 yr Just now, Phillyterp85 said: I'll ask once again, where did I say the total death count was 8,000? Please show me that post. Ok, so you’re claiming 8,000 civilian deaths? That’s still half of what Netanyahu says it is.
May 17, 20241 yr Just now, Dave Moss said: Ok, so you’re claiming 8,000 civilian deaths? That’s still half of what Netanyahu says it is. Why do you keep putting numbers in my mouth? Where did I say 8,000 civilian deaths? Show me that post where I made that claim.
May 17, 20241 yr On 4/19/2024 at 7:23 PM, Phillyterp85 said: Man Israel must really suck at this whole genocide thing. 6 months of war and all they could accomplish so far was 7,000 - 10,000 civilian casualties with one of if not the highest combatant to civilian casualty ratio in modern urban warfare scenarios. ^This might be the post Dave is referring to but it's in reference to civilian deaths. For the record, I personally don't think any of the numbers given are accurate (especially that often repeated 9:1 ratio which is always taken at face value) and I doubt they'll be accurate for some time. We already know Hamas is completely full of ish, and Netanyahu certainly isn't above stretching the truth to suit his own political needs either.
May 17, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: ^This might be the post Dave is referring to but it's in reference to civilian deaths. For the record, I personally don't think any of the numbers given are accurate (especially that often repeated 9:1 ratio which is always taken at face value) and I doubt they'll be accurate for some time. We already know Hamas is completely full of ish, and Netanyahu certainly isn't above stretching the truth to suit his own political needs either. lol so a number from a month ago in which, citing updated numbers after Hamas came out and admitted their numbers were significantly inflated, I gave a range of 7-10,000 civilian deaths caused by Israel. And then Dave turns around and claims that I think that as of May 17th, 2024, only 8,000 civilians have died. Dave realizes that there's still been fighting going on for the past month right? And yes, all these numbers are just estimates at this point. And each side obviously has reason to report numbers that are the most optimistic for their side. But it's also already been proven that Hamas' figures are significantly inflated.
May 17, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: Why do you keep putting numbers in my mouth? Where did I say 8,000 civilian deaths? Show me that post where I made that claim. because he's doing his best procus impersonation.
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