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47 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

It would help if more people simply thought killing innocent civilians is bad and not acceptable. 

I don't think anyone agrees that killing innocent civilians is ok BUT it simply does occur during a war and there is no getting around it.  What is the alternative in this case and scenario? Do you have a reasonable and practical solution?

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1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

It would help if more people simply thought killing innocent civilians is bad and not acceptable. 

What if it's the ones doing the killing are a historically marginalized brown community experiencing generational trauma from a long history of white colonialism, and the in-person, deliberate, gleeful murder and rape of civilians (and the theft of kibbutz bicycles) was the only option left to them?

We need to think more in terms of dismantling power structures and less in terms of white male race-ist fascisto-patriarchal constructs like "good"/"bad", "acceptable", etc.

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:lol:

I love that race-ist always gets turned to "boob"

I keep forgetting 

The whole internet should do this

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8 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

What if it's the ones doing the killing are a historically marginalized brown community experiencing generational trauma from a long history of white colonialism, and the in-person, deliberate, gleeful murder and rape of civilians (and the theft of kibbutz bicycles) was the only option left to them?

We need to think more in terms of dismantling power structures and less in terms of white male race-ist fascisto-patriarchal constructs like "good"/"bad", "acceptable", etc.

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You haven't had a shahhg in some time now have you?

Just now, DrPhilly said:

You haven't had a F in some time now have you?

a Fluffernutter?

no

1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

It would help if more people simply thought killing innocent civilians is bad and not acceptable. 

Totally agree.   F those Hamas terrorists for killing innocent civilians, both through their direct genocidal actions against Jews as well as putting their own people in danger through their cowardly tactics.

3 minutes ago, paco said:

Totally agree.  

If you totally agreed, then you would have quit there. 

Just now, Tnt4philly said:

If you totally agreed, then you would have quit there. 

Why?  Should I not condemn Hamas terrorists?  Is that bad?

Just now, paco said:

Why?  Should I not condemn Hamas terrorists?  Is that bad?

Yeah that’s it. Condemning Hamas is the problem here. 😂😂😂

Just now, Tnt4philly said:

Yeah that’s it. Condemning Hamas is the problem here. 😂😂😂

It seems to be, yes.

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

I don't think anyone agrees that killing innocent civilians is ok BUT it simply does occur during a war and there is no getting around it.  What is the alternative in this case and scenario? Do you have a reasonable and practical solution?

The alternative is to stop killing. 

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27 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

The alternative is to stop killing. 

Ok so turn over Israel to Hamas. That’s your solution. Got it. 

55 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

The alternative is to stop killing. 

So Israel should just leave their hostages in Hamas’s hands? 

It's like they think if they keep making the same point, over and over, no matter how many times it's been debunked, saying it one more time is going to change everything :lol:

 

3 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

The alternative is to stop killing. 

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On 6/8/2024 at 4:38 PM, The_Omega said:

Democrats in action 

 

 

It's a peaceful protest

The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have confirmed that Abdallah Aljamal, an Al Jazeera reporter and photojournalist, was actively holding three Israeli hostages within his residence in central Gaza’s Nuseirat.

"innocent civilians".......

4 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

So Israel should just leave their hostages in Hamas’s hands? 

I believe that killing a few hundred people to rescue four, is playing right into Hamas’ hands?

Regardless of whether it is, or is not is a good strategy, my comments about less killing are not directed at one side or the other. 

7 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

The alternative is to stop killing. 

False dichotomy

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2 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

I believe that killing a few hundred people to rescue four, is playing right into Hamas’ hands?

Regardless of whether it is, or is not is a good strategy, my comments about less killing are not directed at one side or the other. 

Saying "stop the killing” is not a solution. The underlying causes need to be dealt with before the killing will end. 

8 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

I believe that killing a few hundred people to rescue four, is playing right into Hamas’ hands?

Regardless of whether it is, or is not is a good strategy, my comments about less killing are not directed at one side or the other. 

So a few things:

1) The people that were killed include Hamas terrorists as well as "civilians” that were helping Hamas hold the hostages.  
2) The number of dead Hamas announced is likely greatly exaggerated just like the rest of their numbers.  Remember when they claimed Israel bombed a hospital and killed 500 people?  Only for it to turn out that it was Hamas’s own rockets that landed in the parking lot of a hospital, and had few deaths, if any? 

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14 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

The alternative is to stop killing. 

Now there's an idea.  Why didn't anyone ever think of that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry mate

Gaza journalist who wrote for Al Jazeera was holding 3 hostages in home with family, Israel says

Genocidal Hamas is making peace impossible

https://www.yahoo.com/news/genocidal-hamas-making-peace-impossible-150442783.html

Whilst there was great joy in Israel this weekend at the rescue of four hostages after months in captivity, the whereabouts of a further 116 Jews kidnapped on October 7 remains shrouded in darkness.

We do not know how many are alive. Nor do we know their condition. Given the way Hamas terrorists raped and tortured Jews when they invaded Israel, it does not bear thinking what is happening to these men, women and children still held against their will.

Hamas do not see Jewish people as fully human. Like other violent anti-Semites of the past, this gives them permission to treat the people of Israel with an animalistic brutality that is painfully hard to comprehend.

 

This is why one Hamas terrorist excitedly called his family during the pogrom of October 7 to share his news: "Hello Dad, I’m talking to you from Mefalsim [kibbutz in Israel]. Open WhatsApp and see. I killed ten Jews with my own hands. Your son killed Jews! I’m talking to you from a Jewish woman’s phone. I killed her and her husband, their blood on my hands... Hold your head high with pride, Dad.”

This mass murderer is one of thousands of Hamas fighters who share a boob and psychopathic mentality.

Another terrorist, Amar Abu-Awsha, said during his interrogation after capture that: "Our mission was only to kill. We weren’t supposed to capture, just kill. To kill whoever we see and then return. Killing without distinguishing between men, women, and children...Kill anyone you see.”

At the heart of this dark vision is Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar who has been planning the attacks for a decade. He is a genocidal ideologue who believes that the Palestinians will eventually annihilate Israel and that everything and anything is justified in the name of Palestinian liberation.

Yet the horrible truth is that Sinwar cares nothing for Palestinian lives either. Any amount of sacrifice is acceptable in order to achieve his goals.

18 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

You haven't had a shahhg in some time now have you?

Sorry to circle back to this, but just curious... what gave it away?

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