October 1, 20241 yr 27 minutes ago, Procus said: You mean once he is taken out. The man needs to be killed or captured and put before a tribunal. He's nothing more than a gang leader clothed in mullah gear. I don't like the notorious L.O.G. either but that is a bit much.
October 1, 20241 yr Eh, I'm sure it's just a token response by Iran, just something for them to save face and nothing that is escalat... Go back about an hour and fifteenish minutes from my time of posting.
October 1, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Pretty sure every one of those missiles the videos show as raining down are actually missiles that were intercepted. Ballistic missiles do not give off fire when raining back down on their targets. Also they would be moving far too fast for you to see them coming in at that speed.
October 1, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, barho said: Pretty every one of those missiles the videos show as raining down are actually missiles that were intercepted. Ballistic missiles do not give off fire when raining back down on their targets. Also they also would be moving far too fast for you to see them coming in at that speed. I don't think this was the case.
October 1, 20241 yr Just now, Bill said: I don't think this was the case. You think those were actual in tact ballistic missiles? Ballistic missiles renter the atmosphere at 13k-18k mph.
October 1, 20241 yr Just now, barho said: You think those were actual in tact ballistic missiles? Ballistic missiles renter the atmosphere at 13k-18k mph. Yes, and so does every other natsec bro on the internet.
October 1, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Bill said: Yes, and so does every other natsec bro on the internet. OK, I just don't understand how those are intact ballistic missiles as those speeds would tend to disagree. Plus, IDF stated all but a few were intercepted. But, OK.
October 1, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Bill said: Yes, and so does every other natsec bro on the internet. For instance: https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-an-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-ICBM-in-the-sky
October 1, 20241 yr Author 13 minutes ago, Bill said: Eh, I'm sure it's just a token response by Iran, just something for them to save face and nothing that is escalat... So what is the response? Surely, the nuclear facilities will look very appetizing tonight to the hawks in Tel Aviv. However, that would tend to further escalate things and VERY quickly and steeply.
October 1, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: So what is the response? Surely, the nuclear facilities will look very appetizing tonight to the hawks in Tel Aviv. However, that would tend to further escalate things and VERY quickly and steeply. I'm not sure this can be deescalated at this point.
October 1, 20241 yr The Israelis have penetrated all parts of Iranian society as well as the military. We saw how they took out a huge chunk of Hezbollah with the pager operation, how they managed to obscond with a massive amount of records about Iran's nuclear program a couple of years ago. The former president of Iran let it out that an officer appointed by the country to deal with Israel was himself an Israeli agent. Expect something uncoventional that will blow your mind.
October 1, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, barho said: For instance: https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-an-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-ICBM-in-the-sky It's a terminology issue. The balistic missiles here are of the short to mid-range variety, not ICBMs. More like SCUDs, not anything that would carry a nuclear warhead.
October 1, 20241 yr Author 14 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Give Israel the green light to hit the nuclear facilities I too think the time is now.
October 1, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: I too think the time is now. Even if the time isn't now I think that ship has sailed. I don't see this de-escalating.
October 1, 20241 yr Author WH Security Advisor just did the press briefing and did not say anything that would lead one to believe that the message is "calm down". They will be striking and you'd think they would do so without much delay.
October 1, 20241 yr 37 minutes ago, barho said: OK, I just don't understand how those are intact ballistic missiles as those speeds would tend to disagree. Plus, IDF stated all but a few were intercepted. But, OK. Wow, the IDF stated? Well, then it must be true! 34 minutes ago, barho said: For instance: https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-see-an-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-ICBM-in-the-sky Good job getting your ballistic missile information from *checks notes* quora.
October 1, 20241 yr Both Israel and Iran know the time is now while there has never been more weakness and ineptitude in Washington DC.
October 1, 20241 yr 35 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: So what is the response? Surely, the nuclear facilities will look very appetizing tonight to the hawks in Tel Aviv. However, that would tend to further escalate things and VERY quickly and steeply. If they wanted that why not use a virus or cyber attack like stuxnet to cripple them again?
October 1, 20241 yr 35 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: So what is the response? Surely, the nuclear facilities will look very appetizing tonight to the hawks in Tel Aviv. However, that would tend to further escalate things and VERY quickly and steeply. 34 minutes ago, Gannan said: I'm not sure this can be deescalated at this point. 33 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Give Israel the green light to hit the nuclear facilities Pretty much the first two responses nailed it. There's no putting the lid back on the can of worms. If Iran wanted to save face, they would have done the drone/cruise missile thing. Most of them get shot down, one or two land in a field somewhere, both sides get to say about how great they are. This was a ballistic missile saturation attack. They knew Arrow (IDF version of THAAD) wouldn't be able to intercept them all. Based on the videos I saw, the interception rate was rather poor. So, yeah, it's happening.
October 1, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: If they wanted that why not use a virus or cyber attack like stuxnet to cripple them again? It's not enough.
October 1, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, Bill said: Pretty much the first two responses nailed it. There's no putting the lid back on the can of worms. If Iran wanted to save face, they would have done the drone/cruise missile thing. Most of them get shot down, one or two land in a field somewhere, both sides get to say about how great they are. This was a ballistic missile saturation attack. They knew Arrow (IDF version of THAAD) wouldn't be able to intercept them all. Based on the videos I saw, the interception rate was rather poor. So, yeah, it's happening. 100% agree. I felt it in my bones when I watched the live coverage of the attack from Tel Aviv on CNN. Felt just like I felt when I heard Saddam had invaded Kuwait. A line has been crossed.
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