15 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Arguing about the exact date something became a genocide is kinda silly no?

should we start arguing about whether it is silly or not?

8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

should we start arguing about whether it is silly or not?

I guess my point is if you both recognize it as one now, pinpointing the turning point is going to be impossible and kinda pointless. Any individual offense can be scrutinized as "a cost of war/a few bad apples" or "a burgeoning genocide" just as easily because we know the end result. I'll put it this way, no one really argues about when Germany's actions in WW2 turned into a genocide, because well they clearly did and every event leading into it built towards that end.

It would be different if you guys disagreed on its current status.

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

I guess my point is if you both recognize it as one now, pinpointing the turning point is going to be impossible and kinda pointless. Any individual offense can be scrutinized as "a cost of war/a few bad apples" or "a burgeoning genocide" just as easily because we know the end result. I'll put it this way, no one really argues about when Germany's actions in WW2 turned into a genocide, because well they clearly did and every event leading into it built towards that end.

It would be different if you guys disagreed on its current status.

Yeah I get that but this discussion goes back to Oct 7th and the definition of the term which has been a pretty big debate and not only in here. Anyway, of course you are correct. We agree at this point and that’s where we should leave it.

Your faces are genocide.

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

We agree at this point and that’s where we should leave it.

I only know how to argue

1 hour ago, paco said:

Your faces are genocide.

Israelis protesting their government for what they are doing in gaza

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/28/world/middleeast/israel-dissent-war-gaza.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Z08.IZEJ.3Bg3GcgoMHeu&smid=url-share

9 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Israelis protesting their government for what they are doing in gaza

According to posts in here they must be hamas supporters

10 hours ago, Gannan said:

Israelis protesting their government for what they are doing in gaza

Wow looks like dozens of people…

21 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

mofo must've been a dodge ball phenom player at penn.

5 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

mofo must've been a dodge ball phenom player at penn.

Except that his bone spurs held him off of the team. 😢

I still think a reasonable solution would be some of the Arab countries taking control of Gaza for the time being while it is rebuilt and a new government is elected. That government would have to accept Israel's right to exist.

hard to argue it at this point.

The 180 is interesting

You can go back through the thread where people were saying it's just war and just collateral damage

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

The 180 is interesting

You can go back through the thread where people were saying it's just war and just collateral damage

it was then, but this has drug out to what it is.

16 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

The 180 is interesting

You can go back through the thread where people were saying it's just war and just collateral damage

When they started talking about moving the entire population it moved into an entirely different situation.

On 11/2/2023 at 9:56 AM, DEagle7 said:

Step 1: Palestinian government commits a heinous atrocity.  The vast majority of the western populus and government give full support to Israel in condemnation. 

Step 2: Israel begins a counter offensive in Gaza.

Step 3: Over the following months to years, further removed from the terrorist attack and with continued news of collateral damage from Israel's ongoing counter attacks, sympathy for the Palestinian people grows in the west.

Step 4: Return to Step 1.

Repeat forever

We are here

17 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

We are here

but im sure western intervention will work this time.

21 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

The 180 is interesting

You can go back through the thread where people were saying it's just war and just collateral damage

Would still say that

34 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Would still say that

sounds like you already invested in a timeshare in gaza.