October 28, 20231 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Thats why you always see MAGA flying the sickle and hammer flag....oh wait It really is amazing how TDS can alter peoples reality. Your brains are all destroyed I have seen quite a few MAGA trucks with confederate flags in the back. They are essentially flying an open sign of treason. I saw a Maga guy the other day sagging his jeans to display is American Flag boxers. I had to question how wiping your A** with the flag is patriotic. But I digress. On the left I see them flying those rainbow flags higher than the US flag. Its on both sides across the board. Our government has ceased to function because of a bunch of extremists on both sides of the aisle. On the left they are saying Democracy is in trouble and Trump is the problem On the right they are saying Democracy is in trouble and Biden is the problem Both sides are telling us clearly that Democracy is in trouble. Thats what I take away from all of this. Trump and his minions are all of the wealthy class living far outside the realities of their Maga supporters. Biden his cronies are the same and are also living far outside of the reality of the vast majority of their supporters. We are stuck in the middle of a war between rich people whose aim seems to be to destroy America. But fall in line and vote Trump or Biden and continue to take it up the A**. In the 90's gas cost me 87 cents a gallon and I could eat for month with a 150 dollars. I struggle to support any of these guys. Every year our money is worth less and the cost of living continues to rise. It never seems to matter who is in office. After Sept 11, 2001 Gas went from around a dollar and change per gallon to over 3 dollars a gallon. Its never gone back. In the last decade food prices have more than doubled. In many cases those prices have risen far more than that. I guess my point is simply that I dont see a single politician on the major stage who is currently working for the betterment of THIS country. Its all about special interests and personal goals and desires. They are all using office to enrich themselves. This is the case on both sides of the aisle. Trump is absolutely no different.
October 28, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: They can be an oppresor and still be oppressed. Complicated no doubt, but weight of evidence shows a clear conclusion here
October 28, 20231 yr Author 17 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Complicated no doubt, but weight of evidence shows a clear conclusion here I was very clear where I side in this one
October 28, 20231 yr 12 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: I was very clear where I side in this one Wasnt really directed at you sorry
October 28, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Thats why you always see MAGA flying the sickle and hammer flag....oh wait It really is amazing how TDS can alter peoples reality. Your brains are all destroyed Communism isn’t the only form of collectivism. Please pick up a book if you want to sit at the adult table
October 28, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, DrPhilly said: They can be an oppresor and still be oppressed. Do you think Israel has been an "oppressor" by choice - or was Israel boxed into that situation by bad behavior on the part of its Arab neighbors?
October 28, 20231 yr Author 10 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Wasnt really directed at you sorry No worries
October 28, 20231 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Procus said: Do you think Israel has been an "oppressor" by choice - or was Israel boxed into that situation by bad behavior on the part of its Arab neighbors? Nope, not by choice
October 28, 20231 yr 8 hours ago, DrPhilly said: Let's start by saying that this entire question has always been very complex and will continue to be so going forward. Having said that, if we turn it into a binary discussion then it is a no brainer. One side is led by terrorists and openly discusses eliminating the other side. The other is seriously flawed but has a far higher level of morality. No one should get caught up in the false equivalencies that nuts on the left are attempting to argue. Note: This position in no way shape or form should be confused with being anti-Palestinian people. They deserve to have a reasonable solution to be put in place and Israel has clearly been an oppressor for a long time. Failed attempt at finding middle ground, Doc. Although par for the course with you…
October 28, 20231 yr Author 12 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Failed attempt at finding middle ground, Doc. Although par for the course with you… Oh yeah? What part fails?
October 28, 20231 yr 17 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Failed attempt at finding middle ground, Doc. Although par for the course with you… This from the faux intellectual crying anout nuance…😄
October 28, 20231 yr Sky News Australia host Piers Morgan has spoken to an ex-Hamas insider who became a spy for Israel in the late 1990s. Mosab Hassan Yousef is the eldest son of Hamas co-founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef. "Hamas cause is a sick one. Its coming from the pit of hell. You know, and they need to be removed from power." This guys information on the issue is most likely important.
October 28, 20231 yr I feel that humor, like the universe, is conditioned by a kind of -- Well, it's a byproduct of your own Weltanschauung, I feel, and what it is, really, is a randomly sequentialized system of only partially overlapping synergistics and energy events that are irreducibly unanalyzable. And an example of over-intellectualized humor would be, for example, La Rochefoucauld's famous remark with which he broke up the French Academy when he said "Monsieur, l'hypocrisie est un hommage du vice rend à la vertu." Now, to me, that's a bomb!
October 28, 20231 yr 4 hours ago, DrPhilly said: They can be an oppresor and still be oppressed. Right. Being attacked and being oppressed are not the same thing. To me oppression in this context is prolonged control over a population with the intent to reduce or limit their political and economic power. The Israelis have clearly oppressed Palestinians, especially the last 15 years. This was in response to the election of Hamas, but it's a policy that helped radicalize another generation of Gazans. Obviously none of this justifies the actions of Hamas earlier this month. But any good faith support of Israel needs to acknowledge that Palestinians who do not support Hamas still have legitimate grievances against Israel, and that Israel's response here is starting to look more and more like Netanyahu capitalizing on a political opportunity. Perhaps even one that he allowed to happen 🤷♂️ In any case, I thought this was interesting: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas To be sure, Israel is absolutely justified in responding forcefully to this attack. But it also might be a missed opportunity to engender some goodwill with an approach that might have found them unlikely allies in Gaza against Hamas.
October 28, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, Procus said: Do you think Israel has been an "oppressor" by choice - or was Israel boxed into that situation by bad behavior on the part of its Arab neighbors? A little bit of both. Let's not ignore that Likud is reveling in this. Israel had options. And they have every right to defend themselves against terrorism. They have also clearly oppressed Palestinians as a matter of policy.
October 28, 20231 yr Just now, Shepard Wong said: Israel needs to be nicer to the people that want to exterminate them. Hamas wants to exterminate them. Not every Palestinian, or even most, feel the same way. Though more do after Israel's response. It's a crap situation. Idiots chanting "from the river to the sea" in the US and Europe are monumentally stupid. But there is less support for Hamas in Gaza than there is for, say, Trump or Netanyahu. And that's not meaningless. Looking at this dispassionately, radicals on both sides of this issue in Israel have been driving the bus. And that sucks. It should be a lesson for the rest of the world. Anyway.. I don't want any of this stepping-back and side-eying the situation on my part to be misinterpreted as lacking support for Israel. They've been under attack by Palestinian radicals since 1947, before Israel was even chartered, and how they've gotten to where they are is as understandable as it is lamentable. What I find difficult to support here is Israel's refusal to even provide an escape corridor for women and children to GTFO before they start coming in guns blazing. War is hell, but at some point you're cruising past losing your humanity to something worse.
October 28, 20231 yr 30 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: I feel that humor, like the universe, is conditioned by a kind of -- Well, it's a byproduct of your own Weltanschauung, I feel, and what it is, really, is a randomly sequentialized system of only partially overlapping synergistics and energy events that are irreducibly unanalyzable. And an example of over-intellectualized humor would be, for example, La Rochefoucauld's famous remark with which he broke up the French Academy when he said "Monsieur, l'hypocrisie est un hommage du vice rend à la vertu." Now, to me, that's a bomb! I take it you're no fan of E.B. White?
October 28, 20231 yr 23 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Hamas wants to exterminate them. Not every Palestinian, or even most, feel the same way. Though more do after Israel's response. It's a crap situation. Idiots chanting "from the river to the sea" in the US and Europe are monumentally stupid. But there is less support for Hamas in Gaza than there is for, say, Trump or Netanyahu. And that's not meaningless. Looking at this dispassionately, radicals on both sides of this issue in Israel have been driving the bus. And that sucks. It should be a lesson for the rest of the world. Anyway.. I don't want any of this stepping-back and side-eying the situation on my part to be misinterpreted as lacking support for Israel. They've been under attack by Palestinian radicals since 1947, before Israel was even chartered, and how they've gotten to where they are is as understandable as it is lamentable. What I find difficult to support here is Israel's refusal to even provide an escape corridor for women and children to GTFO before they start coming in guns blazing. War is hell, but at some point you're cruising past losing your humanity to something worse. You play to win the game. this simpering nonsense is way over the top. I get you dont like the collateral damage, but comes with the territory. The point here is to end Hamas and show that next generation what radicalism brings down on your head. the real test is how they rebuild the area, assuming they take control of it. Thats how you change a culture, like we did with japan post ww2. Not by refusing to finish the job. Even the us fell into this weak minded trap in places like afghanistan and iraq.
October 28, 20231 yr 7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Emotional drivel. Even Amash isnt immune from personalizing something
October 28, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, DrPhilly said: Oh yeah? What part fails? Are you a supporter of terrorism or ethnic cleansing? Those are your two choices here.
October 28, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: What I find difficult to support here is Israel's refusal to even provide an escape corridor for women and children to GTFO before they start coming in guns blazing. That’s been the plan all along. Combined with cutting off electricity and food of course.
October 28, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: Emotional drivel. Even Amash isnt immune from personalizing something I’m not understanding the problem with his tweet.
October 28, 20231 yr 12 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I’m not understanding the problem with his tweet. Oh we know
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