October 8, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Clearly the concepts are close enough to compare them although the events and people are different. I have no idea what world the two of you live in to think that.
October 8, 20232 yr There is video circulating of them killing a Filipino worker by smashing/decapitating his head with a garden hoe. I'm beyond words at what the people over there are dealing with. It's not a time to point fingers or blame. I don't know what the response should be, but this is horrific.
October 8, 20232 yr 35 minutes ago, Bill said: To say that we aren’t actually giving them the money is disingenuous, as money is fungible. If a gang banger can’t buy both guns and groceries, you buying him groceries just frees up money for him to buy guns. You can keep saying that and it will still be wrong. Your logic fails in that given the choice between funding terrorism and feeding their people, the government will let their people starve. Buying band aides isn’t freeing up ish if they weren’t going to buy bad aids in the first place. I believe we have enough cause to re-freeze the funds but trying to link that money as having anything to do with this attack ignores the countless other reasons why this conflict has been going on for over 70yrs.
October 8, 20232 yr 19 hours ago, Procus said: Well, would anyone be shocked if/when that happened? Pointing fingers is asinine. So is saying "be prepared". WTF does that mean? Any Navy Seal classes still have availability for the fall?
October 8, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: There is video circulating of them killing a Filipino worker by smashing/decapitating his head with a garden hoe. I'm beyond words at what the people over there are dealing with. It's not a time to point fingers or blame. I don't know what the response should be, but this is horrific. The stories are heartbreaking.
October 8, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: You can keep saying that and it will still be wrong. Your logic fails in that given the choice between funding terrorism and feeding their people, the government will let their people starve. Buying band aides isn’t freeing up ish if they weren’t going to buy bad aids in the first place. I believe we have enough cause to re-freeze the funds but trying to link that money as having anything to do with this attack ignores the countless other reasons why this conflict has been going on for over 70yrs. Sorry, I love you bro, but this is silly. Fact of the matter is even people in the administration argued that those funds could/would be used for terrorism then, mere weeks after they were transferred back, a horrifyingly bold, brazen terrorist attack. Yes, Hamas hatred for Israel has been going on for decades, but nothing like this happened until the funds were given back.
October 8, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Sorry, I love you bro, but this is silly. Fact of the matter is even people in the administration argued that those funds could/would be used for terrorism then, mere weeks after they were transferred back, a horrifyingly bold, brazen terrorist attack. Yes, Hamas hatred for Israel has been going on for decades, but nothing like this happened until the funds were given back. There is not even evidence that any of the funds have even left Qatar yet. Something like this did happen before, do you think it’s a coincidence that this attack happened on its 50th anniversary?
October 8, 20232 yr Author 46 minutes ago, Toastrel said: I have no idea what world the two of you live in to think that. You don't see how making financial funds available is an enabler?
October 8, 20232 yr CVN-78 is on the way. Our newest Carrier. So are the Seals. The US will send a carrier strike group to the Eastern Mediterranean in support of Israel The USS Gerald R. Ford and its approximately 5,000 sailors and deck of warplanes will be accompanied by cruisers and destroyers in a show of force that is meant to be ready to respond to anything, from possibly interdicting additional weapons from reaching Hamas and conducting surveillance.
October 8, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Well, would anyone be shocked if/when that happened? Pointing fingers is asinine. So is saying "be prepared". WTF does that mean? Any Navy Seal classes still have availability for the fall? Procus is fortifying the old folks home as we speak.
October 8, 20232 yr 45 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Procus is fortifying the old folks home as we speak.
October 8, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said: There is not even evidence that any of the funds have even left Qatar yet. Something like this did happen before, do you think it’s a coincidence that this attack happened on its 50th anniversary?
October 8, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Gannan said: I guess they didn't cover it on Fox News https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-protests-overhaul-courts-282e2cd18a2340a067625e148ebda41c https://apnews.com/article/israel-politics-justice-minister-judicial-overhaul-netanyahu-b93481650524a63c4e85199c0ea3fb4d Your first article says judicial reform was divisive Your second article is about protests at a Supreme Court hearing - a hearing that could never take place if the judiciary was "dissolved". You said before that the prime minister dissolved a branch of government. So again, explain how the Israeli PM dissolved a branch of government - because the articles you cited say nothing to that effect.
October 8, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: You can keep saying that and it will still be wrong. Your logic fails in that given the choice between funding terrorism and feeding their people, the government will let their people starve. Buying band aides isn’t freeing up ish if they weren’t going to buy bad aids in the first place. I believe we have enough cause to re-freeze the funds but trying to link that money as having anything to do with this attack ignores the countless other reasons why this conflict has been going on for over 70yrs. You are well meaning but beyond naive.
October 8, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: You don't see how making financial funds available is an enabler? I see prisoners in foreign lands released, and the cost was giving them back access to some of their own money, in a way we control what it can be used for. You can think that is a terrible deal all you want. I disagree. You can also pretend the deal involved Hamas. I disagree.
October 8, 20232 yr Author 7 minutes ago, Toastrel said: I see prisoners in foreign lands released, and the cost was giving them back access to some of their own money, in a way we control what it can be used for. You can think that is a terrible deal all you want. I disagree. You can also pretend the deal involved Hamas. I disagree. I didn't offer an opinion on the deal but there is partial merit in the comparison of making funds available.
October 8, 20232 yr 40 minutes ago, Toastrel said: I see prisoners in foreign lands released, and the cost was giving them back access to some of their own money, in a way we control what it can be used for. You can think that is a terrible deal all you want. I disagree. You can also pretend the deal involved Hamas. I disagree. Here's what you're not getting: 1. That wasn't their own money. Federal courts have ruled that that money belongs to Iranian terror victims. 2. Even prior to that, that was money owned and held by the prior Iranian government. It does not belong to the criminal regime currently running Iran.
October 8, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Ok. So let's see the evidence that Iran used the money for this attack. That's a ridiculous statement. Would you like to see a forensic audit tracing the money?
October 8, 20232 yr Apparently dozens of Americans are currently being held hostage by Hamas. Just a couple of weeks ago, $6 billion was released to Iran in exchange for 5 hostages. Didn't take long for more Americans to be taken hostage. smh https://rumble.com/v3nu6y5-report-dozens-of-americans-being-held-hostage-by-hamas.html
October 8, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: You are a moron if you think this and that voting for each promotion individually is reasonable. It doesn't matter what I think. It happened blood clot.
October 8, 20232 yr Live Updates: Death toll in Israel-Hamas war tops 1,100 as US sends carrier strike group Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2023/10/live-updates-death-toll-israel-hamas-war-tops-1100-us-sends-carrier-strike-group#ixzz8Fak819zZ They about to get death from above.
Create an account or sign in to comment