32 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

  How is this so hard?

It's primary season.  There are several Republican candidates.  Make the case why Trump's the most conservative.

 How is this so hard to do basic math?

31 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Raise your hand if you've never wished death on over 100 million Americans publicly in this forum.

*raises hand* 

 

1 hour ago, Tweek said:

Strikes on south Gaza: BBC verifies attacks in areas of ‘safety’

 

19 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

 

Lots more innocents are going to get killed in the crossfire

26 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

 

That's their true goal. Genocide.

29 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

 

Lots more innocents are going to get killed in the crossfire

I struggle with the concept of innocents when they have willingly stayed under this regime leading up to the conflict.  Unless I'm greatly mistaken, I don't remember "Hamas is blocking them from leaving" wasn't a thing before they went full savage a few weeks back.

 

1 hour ago, Tweek said:

Strikes on south Gaza: BBC verifies attacks in areas of ‘safety’

 

2 minutes ago, paco said:

I struggle with the concept of innocents when they have willingly stayed under this regime leading up to the conflict.  Unless I'm greatly mistaken, I don't remember "Hamas is blocking them from leaving" wasn't a thing before they went full savage a few weeks back.

Palestinians are being told to leave one place to another but are still getting killed in bombings at or near those areas of safety. Link above

Both are losing innocents in the war against Hamas

2 hours ago, Procus said:

MAGA Republicans believe in limited government.  Not sure why you think they're socialists.

Limited Government such as...

Letting politicians decide women's health

Forcing women to undergo medical procedures

Centrally Planned Government built ghost cities

Revoking the broadcasting licenses of networks who speak against government policy

Federal takeover of the education system

Federal prosecution of doctors who perform gender affirming care

Expansion of federal executions

Expanding the war on drugs by *checks notes* "firing missiles into Mexico"

Forcing homeless people into concentration camps

Government takeover of large tech companies and pharmaceutical companies (also known as actual communism)

Expand federal taxation

Eliminating Presidential term limits so the United States can have a "President for life" like China and Russia have.

 

I'm sure there will be several more bat ish crazy big government proposals from the republican party and its demented leader by the time we get to the 2024 election. MAGAism is simply a right wing form of collectivism where individual liberties are sacrificed for the good of the state, and citizens are expected to conform to what the supreme leader defines as cultural norms. Totalitarian societies based on collectivism such as NSDAP Germany, Soviet and Post Soviet Russia, Communist China all share these common traits. 

19 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

 

Palestinians are being told to leave one place to another but are still getting killed in bombings at or near those areas of safety. Link above

Both are losing innocents in the war against Hamas

I meant leave Gaza entirely.  

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, paco said:

I struggle with the concept of innocents when they have willingly stayed under this regime leading up to the conflict.  Unless I'm greatly mistaken, I don't remember "Hamas is blocking them from leaving" wasn't a thing before they went full savage a few weeks back.

That’s what I’ve been saying. Add in the facts that they voted Hamas into power and there have been zero protests or uprisings against Hamas from inside Gaza in all the years they’ve been in power and it becomes really difficult for me. 

54 minutes ago, paco said:

I struggle with the concept of innocents when they have willingly stayed under this regime leading up to the conflict.  Unless I'm greatly mistaken, I don't remember "Hamas is blocking them from leaving" wasn't a thing before they went full savage a few weeks back.

 

18 minutes ago, Imp81318 said:

That’s what I’ve been saying. Add in the facts that they voted Hamas into power and there have been zero protests or uprisings against Hamas from inside Gaza in all the years they’ve been in power and it becomes really difficult for me. 

Still hard to watch, but I get what each of you are saying.  

37 minutes ago, paco said:

I meant leave Gaza entirely.  

Not being antagonizing or anything but go where?

It was either Hamas or Fatah who had been using them and oppressing them for decades leading up to that election. Israel completely bailing on Gaza really gave the terror groups the chance to grow and develop the power they have now, and they haven’t allowed another election since.  The aid we send them pays for it. The civilians are getting bombed because Hamas’ leadership is hiding themselves and weapons among them. Is Israel just supposed to throw their hands up and accept there’s nothing they can do about it? 

I don’t think we can embed threads yet but quick video of the leader of Hamas saying what should have been obvious to everyone anyway

https://www.threads.net/@gtconway3dg/post/CzHDAsYOvbG/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

12 minutes ago, DiPros said:

 

Still hard to watch, but I get what each of you are saying.  

Not nearly as hard to watch as Hamas raping women and executing babies. 

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas

They did a survey

Quote

The argument that the entire population of Gaza can be held responsible for Hamas’s actions is quickly discredited when one looks at the facts. Arab Barometer, a research network where we serve as co-principal investigators, conducted a survey in Gaza and the West Bank days before the Israel-Hamas war broke out. The findings, published here for the first time, reveal that rather than supporting Hamas, the vast majority of Gazans have been frustrated with the armed group’s ineffective governance as they endure extreme economic hardship. Most Gazans do not align themselves with Hamas’s ideology, either. Unlike Hamas, whose goal is to destroy the Israeli state, the majority of survey respondents favored a two-state solution with an independent Palestine and Israel existing side by side.

With graphs

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/what-palestinians-really-think-hamas

They did a survey

With graphs

Ok so what is the solution then? Israel tells civilians to evacuate an area, which gives up any tactical advantage they might have and Hamas moves personnel and equipment out of the area so the strikes are ineffective. Hamas continues to hide their weapons among the civilians. How should Israel proceed?  Maybe if those people are truly fed up with Hamas they’ll start sabotaging their weaponry or means of transport so that Israel’s strikes are more effective?

Yes, they totally hate Hamas.  They were only looking to dabble in a little light terrorism in 2006.  Who could have suspected that the terrorist organization they voted for wouldn’t be trustworthy and forthright in their treatment of their political rivals, constituents, and the integrity of the electoral process.

 

40 minutes ago, Imp81318 said:

Not nearly as hard to watch as Hamas raping women and executing babies. 

Actually it’s hard to watch regardless of who is being brutalized. 

That's one of the more frustrating things about this current conflict.  Hamas has been committing unbelievably heinous war crimes the whole time, but there is zero demand for them to respect international law or civilian wellbeing.  The demands are so unbelievably one-sided that it's hard to see them as anything but Hamas propaganda.

18 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Actually it’s hard to watch regardless of who is being brutalized. 

One being harder than the other doesn’t mean that either one is not hard to watch.