November 2, 20231 yr 36 minutes ago, Ace Nova said: Just stop, Dave. Free elections obviously would have led to autonomy, had they elected (almost anyone else in the universe) other than a f'n terrorist organization that hates Jews, the West, gay people or just about anyone else not 100% within their extremist, hatred cause. So as long as they elect people that you approve of then they can have autonomy? You don’t see how ridiculous that sounds?
November 2, 20231 yr 18 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: So as long as they elect people that you approve of then they can have autonomy? You don’t see how ridiculous that sounds? They already have autonomy. They are living, breathing people.
November 2, 20231 yr 56 minutes ago, Ace Nova said: They already have autonomy. They are living, breathing people. Sure, as long as they don't worship false gods.
November 2, 20231 yr Author 9 hours ago, Dave Moss said: Right. We can’t even keep that little Swedish girl in check. I know right, can't you do something about that?
November 2, 20231 yr Author 8 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said: 🤨 This seems incredibly wrong to announce and not include anti-Semitism at this particular point in time given the very real rise of hatred toward Jewish people in the US over the last weeks, months, and years.
November 2, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: This seems incredibly wrong to announce and not include anti-Semitism at this particular point in time given the very real rise of hatred toward Jewish people in the US over the last weeks, months, and years. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/biden-antisemitism-college-campuses-jewish-students-cornell-cooper-columbia/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/09/28/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-takes-landmark-step-to-counter-antisemitism/ https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-welcomes-first-ever-white-house-national-strategy-counter-antisemitism
November 2, 20231 yr 9 hours ago, Dave Moss said: So as long as they elect people that you approve of then they can have autonomy? You don’t see how ridiculous that sounds? Intentional obtuse so long as they dont elect terrorists who intentional harm others…and even their own people plus they had their chance to move towards autonomy and chose terrorists. So no sympathy
November 2, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, DrPhilly said: This seems incredibly wrong to announce and not include anti-Semitism at this particular point in time given the very real rise of hatred toward Jewish people in the US over the last weeks, months, and years. Of course it is. Here is an example yet again of the leadership pandering to the morons on the left instead of leading. also wtf was the Dem plan for Harris?? They bungled developing her
November 2, 20231 yr Question for those who blame Palestinian citizens for "voting" for Hamas in a single election 15 years ago... Would you guys also blame all 2016 Trump voters for what happened at the Capitol on Jan 6th? If citizens are to be blamed by proxy for the actions of a government they elected, then the same should apply there, no?
November 2, 20231 yr 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Question for those who blame Palestinian citizens for "voting" for Hamas in a single election 15 years ago... Would you guys also blame all 2016 Trump voters for what happened at the Capitol on Jan 6th? If citizens are to be blamed by proxy for the actions of a government they elected, then the same should apply there, no? No bc it hadnt happened yet not would a reasonable person expect it to. hamas had a long track record of violence and terrorism. Any reasonable person could see what they would do. Hell they broadcast it proudly. the issue is the battered spouse syndrome mentioned earlier. What other choice could they make? Hammas had all the power and resources…and guns.
November 2, 20231 yr 18 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Of course it is. Here is an example yet again of the leadership pandering to the morons on the left instead of leading. Here is an example of yet again, your emotional ranting is blinded by the facts. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/biden-antisemitism-college-campuses-jewish-students-cornell-cooper-columbia/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/09/28/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-takes-landmark-step-to-counter-antisemitism/ https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-welcomes-first-ever-white-house-national-strategy-counter-antisemitism
November 2, 20231 yr 12 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: not would a reasonable person expect it to. I disagree. We knew exactly what kinda person Trump was in 2016. And Maher had been calling it for months prior to the 2020 election. There's also going to be 70M people that try to vote for him again. Should we call them enablers of (domestic) terrorism too? I mean, I might not disagree with it if you did, just curious what you think one way or another. I agree with the rest though and I think the battered wife analogy is a good one.
November 2, 20231 yr 4 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Here is an example of yet again, your emotional ranting is blinded by the facts. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/biden-antisemitism-college-campuses-jewish-students-cornell-cooper-columbia/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/09/28/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-takes-landmark-step-to-counter-antisemitism/ https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-welcomes-first-ever-white-house-national-strategy-counter-antisemitism I have a feeling you're gonna have to repost this a hundred more times for those who are fed exclusively on a steady diet of fox news headlines.
November 2, 20231 yr 23 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Here is an example of yet again, your emotional ranting is blinded by the facts. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/biden-antisemitism-college-campuses-jewish-students-cornell-cooper-columbia/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/09/28/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-takes-landmark-step-to-counter-antisemitism/ https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-welcomes-first-ever-white-house-national-strategy-counter-antisemitism Some fine projecting. That train is never late
November 2, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said: Some fine projecting. That train is never late The guy who is the first to call someone an emotional child is now butthurt he got called out for a kneejerk emotional reaction.
November 2, 20231 yr 39 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Here is an example of yet again, your emotional ranting is blinded by the facts. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/biden-antisemitism-college-campuses-jewish-students-cornell-cooper-columbia/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/09/28/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-takes-landmark-step-to-counter-antisemitism/ https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-welcomes-first-ever-white-house-national-strategy-counter-antisemitism These were before the hamas attacks. Part of the initial point was the tone deafness of the timing
November 2, 20231 yr 58 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Question for those who blame Palestinian citizens for "voting" for Hamas in a single election 15 years ago... Would you guys also blame all 2016 Trump voters for what happened at the Capitol on Jan 6th? If citizens are to be blamed by proxy for the actions of a government they elected, then the same should apply there, no? Since many of them are still defending it after the fact, it’s difficult not to recognize their culpability in that day but this is bigger than that. The better analogy is the election next year. We are just about a year away from an election that could legitimately bring facism to the US. If Trump wins, not only are his voters culpable, but all Americans as a whole are culpable to different degrees. Lest you think this is me making a convenient argument for this topic in a vacuum, I made a post about the speaker mess last week or so and my wording was that we deserve the disaster we are flirting with. I’m doing the dad taxi thing now but will try to find that post and expound on the point later if you’d like.
November 2, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, Shepard Wong said: Since many of them are still defending it after the fact, it’s difficult not to recognize their culpability in that day but this is bigger than that. The better analogy is the election next year. We are just about a year away from an election that could legitimately bring facism to the US. If Trump wins, not only are his voters culpable, but all Americans as a whole are culpable to different degrees. Lest you think this is me making a convenient argument for this topic in a vacuum, I made a post about the speaker mess last week or so and my wording was that we deserve the disaster we are flirting with. I’m doing the dad taxi thing now but will try to find that post and expound on the point later if you’d like. No, I get where you're coming from. I wasn't trying to stir the pot with my question, I was geniuinely curious where people fall on this, and your thoughts on it seem logically consistent.
November 2, 20231 yr 11 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: These were before the hamas attacks. Part of the initial point was the tone deafness of the timing
November 2, 20231 yr Let's not forget that anti-Semitism increased under the Trump administration, because of his support for the White Supremacist crowd he main lined into normalcy.
November 2, 20231 yr Step 1: Palestinian government commits a heinous atrocity. The vast majority of the western populus and government give full support to Israel in condemnation. Step 2: Israel begins a counter offensive in Gaza. Step 3: Over the following months to years, further removed from the terrorist attack and with continued news of collateral damage from Israel's ongoing counter attacks, sympathy for the Palestinian people grows in the west. Step 4: Return to Step 1. Repeat forever
November 2, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: The guy who is the first to call someone an emotional child is now butthurt he got called out for a kneejerk emotional reaction. Stay defensive there shorty
November 2, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Shepard Wong said: Since many of them are still defending it after the fact, it’s difficult not to recognize their culpability in that day but this is bigger than that. The better analogy is the election next year. We are just about a year away from an election that could legitimately bring facism to the US. If Trump wins, not only are his voters culpable, but all Americans as a whole are culpable to different degrees. Lest you think this is me making a convenient argument for this topic in a vacuum, I made a post about the speaker mess last week or so and my wording was that we deserve the disaster we are flirting with. I’m doing the dad taxi thing now but will try to find that post and expound on the point later if you’d like. Literally fascism… You dont find that a tad dramatic?
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