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"Hamas’s attack and the events unfolding since yesterday are unspeakable. We are heartbroken to watch terrified civilians besieged in their homes, innocent people murdered in cold blood on the streets, at parties, and at home. Dozens taken hostage and dragged into the Gaza Strip. Every one of us knows someone who has been tragically affected.” Then the tone of Gvaryahu’s statement shifted: "We could go on and on about their cruel and criminal actions, or focus on how our Jewish-supremacist government brought us to this point. But, as hard as it is, our job as former Israeli soldiers is to talk about what we were sent to do.” He framed the Hamas attack as a failure of the Israel Defense Forces, which, he wrote, were busy protecting settlers in the West Bank. "Our country decided—decades ago—that it’s willing to forfeit the security of its citizens in our towns and cities, in favor of maintaining control over an occupied civilian population of millions, all for the sake of a settler-messianic agenda.” It was time for Israelis to wake up to how unsustainable and unsafe that arrangement was.”

 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-tangled-grief-of-israels-anti-occupation-activists

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5 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

😂😂😂😂😂😂

:unsure: That’s the same reaction you had when you heard that Palestinians had murdered 1500 Jews. No sense in trying to reason with a modern day NSDAP sympathizer/apologist like yourself.

5 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

:unsure: That’s the same reaction you had when you heard that Palestinians had murdered 1500 Jews. No sense in trying to reason with a modern day NSDAP sympathizer/apologist like yourself.

Keep thinking that the laughter you hear isn’t about you. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

And you’re a lying POS. 

https://icahd.org

DID YOU KNOW?

 

More than 131,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished in Israel and the Occupied Palestine Territory (OPT) since 1947.
In 2022, ICAHD analysis revealed that over 926 structures were demolished and 953 people displaced in the OPT with a further 28,255 people directly affected.
In 2022, 2845 structures were demolished in the Negev/Naqab – 771 homes and 2074 agriculture and livelihood structures. 

 

 


"Last year, 2022, was the deadliest year for Palestinian children in the West Bank in 15 years, and 2023 is on track to meet or exceed 2022 levels. Israeli forces had killed at least 34 Palestinian children in the West Bank as of August 22. Human Rights Watch investigated four fatal shootings of Palestinian children by Israeli forces between November 2022 and March 2023.”

 

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children

23 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Keep thinking that the laughter you hear isn’t about you. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

And you’re a lying POS. 

Keep spinning for the modern day NSDAPs. Your murderous brethren will be treated every bit as well by history as the last ones who attempted to kill all the Jews.

17 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:


"Last year, 2022, was the deadliest year for Palestinian children in the West Bank in 15 years, and 2023 is on track to meet or exceed 2022 levels. Israeli forces had killed at least 34 Palestinian children in the West Bank as of August 22. Human Rights Watch investigated four fatal shootings of Palestinian children by Israeli forces between November 2022 and March 2023.”

 

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children

Keep spinning for the modern day NSDAPs.

Just now, The_Omega said:

Keep spinning for the modern day NSDAPs. Your murderous brethren will be treated every bit as well by history as the last ones who attempted to kill all the Jews.

You can stop lying about my reaction the the attacks any time now. 

Just now, The_Omega said:

Keep spinning for the modern day NSDAPs.

So you’re ok with innocent civilians being killed when you don’t like them?
 

Unlike you, my heart breaks whenever an innocent life is taken, regardless of who it is. 

7 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

You can stop lying about my reaction the the attacks any time now. 

You laughed at a woman trying to kill a bunch of Jewish children by ramming their school. I’m not lying about your reaction, just calling you out on it. Don’t you have missing children posters to go tear down?

16 hours ago, Blazehound said:

Maga republicans at it again. 

Most likely. 

1 hour ago, The_Omega said:

Keep spinning for the modern day NSDAPs. Your murderous brethren will be treated every bit as well by history as the last ones who attempted to kill all the Jews.

The modern day NSDAPs are carrying tiki torches and voting for Trump. Also known as "very fine people".

 

 

12 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

I'm not talking about you, TNT, but I love the occupied aspect of this BS coming from reporters and activists in the US. We occupied land from tribes who took them from other tribes, who took them from others. The same is true for most countries around the world. I also love people complaining about humanitarian issues wearing shoes possibly made in Uyghur camps.

They came at Israel, got their asses kicked in a week, and they kept the land. Too bad. Yeah, their SC said it was occupation, but screw them as well. F around and found out happened. If others in the region want the land, they should have fought harder 50 years ago while trying to wipe Israel off the face of the map.  Do they rule it fairly? Probably not. Have they done horrible things holding that land? Probably. Would things be different if the WB and Gaza didn't have terrorists trying to kill them? Probably. Would it be different if a-holes weren't trying to push things with settlements? Probably, but the bottom line is they do not want peace; they will not settle for two states, and they will not rest until Israel is wiped out.

We can get into smaller discussions, hopefully life for civilians improves across the area, but at the end of the day, there will never be peace because their goal is the destruction of Israel. They got the land from a war that was trying to wipe them out, and those efforts will continue. I’m personally glad they kept the land.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

I'm not talking about you, TNT, but I love the occupied aspect of this BS coming from reporters and activists in the US. We occupied land from tribes who took them from other tribes, who took them from others. The same is true for most countries around the world. I also love people complaining about humanitarian issues wearing shoes possibly made in Uyghur camps.

They came at Israel, got their asses kicked in a week, and they kept the land. Too bad. Yeah, their SC said it was occupation, but screw them as well. F around and find out happened. If others in the region want the land, they should have fought harder 50 years ago while trying to wipe Israel off the face of the map.  Do they rule it fairly? Probably not. Have they done horrible things holding that land? Probably. Would things be different if the WB and Gaza didn't have terrorists trying to kill them? Probably. Would it be different if a-holes weren't trying to push things with settlements? Probably, but at the end of the day, the bottom line is they do not want peace; they will not settle for two states, and they will not rest until Israel is wiped out.

We can get into smaller discussions, hopefully life for civilians improves across the area, but at the end of the day, there will never be peace because their goal is the destruction of Israel. They got the land from a war that was trying to wipe them out, and those efforts will continue. I’m personally glad they kept the land.

Just an FYI, taking land in war is currently against international law.


Even if one can get past the initial land grab, Israel continues to take land and expand their settlements to this day. 

As much as terrorists organizations like Hamas want to rid the area of Jews, there are far right Jews who want to rid the area of all Palestinians as well. The far right is running the country right now, and they have no desire for a two state solution either. Netanyahu was taking a lot of heat from within. 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/former-israeli-diplomats-warn-new-government-will-damage-international-standing

5 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

"Hamas’s attack and the events unfolding since yesterday are unspeakable. We are heartbroken to watch terrified civilians besieged in their homes, innocent people murdered in cold blood on the streets, at parties, and at home. Dozens taken hostage and dragged into the Gaza Strip. Every one of us knows someone who has been tragically affected.” Then the tone of Gvaryahu’s statement shifted: "We could go on and on about their cruel and criminal actions, or focus on how our Jewish-supremacist government brought us to this point. But, as hard as it is, our job as former Israeli soldiers is to talk about what we were sent to do.” He framed the Hamas attack as a failure of the Israel Defense Forces, which, he wrote, were busy protecting settlers in the West Bank. "Our country decided—decades ago—that it’s willing to forfeit the security of its citizens in our towns and cities, in favor of maintaining control over an occupied civilian population of millions, all for the sake of a settler-messianic agenda.” It was time for Israelis to wake up to how unsustainable and unsafe that arrangement was.”

 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-tangled-grief-of-israels-anti-occupation-activists

Now do the Palestinians and how they feel about their government.  I bet they have the same type of introspective remorse.....

 

....Whats that?  They continue to openly call for terrorism and the eradication of Jews everywhere?  

13 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Just an FYI, taking land in war is currently against international law.


Even if one can get past the initial land grab, Israel continues to take land and expand their settlements to this day. 

As much as terrorists organizations like Hamas want to rid the area of Jews, there are far right Jews who want to rid the area of all Palestinians as well. The far right is running the country right now, and they have no desire for a two state solution either. Netanyahu was taking a lot of heat from within. 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/former-israeli-diplomats-warn-new-government-will-damage-international-standing

When does your clock start on that, exactly?

Israel has claims to that land going back thousands of years.  So what international law was broken since then??

 

Israel is absolutely right for wanting to kick them all out. Theyve had 70 years and pissed it away.  Times up, and its their own fault 

Just now, Mike31mt said:

When does your clock start on that, exactly?

Israel has claims to that land going back thousands of years.  So what international law was broken since then??

 

Israel is absolutely right for wanting to kick them all out. Theyve had 70 years and pissed it away.  Times up, and its their own fault 

Yeah, this, you, are part of the problem. 
 

"Religion poisons everything!” ….rip Hitch. 
 

9 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Yeah, this, you, are part of the problem. 
 

"Religion poisons everything!” ….rip Hitch. 
 

Yeah, somehow, Im part of problem in Israel. 

It couldn't possibly be that your ridiculous, pollyanna, "no one is at fault"  logic fails miserably.

It's definitely Mike31mt from the EMB as the main reason muslims are obsessed with eradicating Jews (and tons of American liberals too) and have been trying for hundreds of years.

Religion has indeed poisoned the mind of muslims. 

Theyre still holding hostages to this day and no Palestinian deserves peace until theyre returned.  Want someone to blame for the suffering of Palestinian children?   Blame the Palestinian adults. Not people on the EMB you coward.

Way off topic here but I’ve got a CVON technical question. When I’m on my phone and I go to CVON, and only CVON, it show the page completely white. No threads, nothing but a white screen.

It doesn’t happen with any other page on the EMB. Why? And why just on my phone?  Too much glory hole porn?  Lynched, has this ever happened to you?

25 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Way off topic here but I’ve got a CVON technical question. When I’m on my phone and I go to CVON, and only CVON, it show the page completely white. No threads, nothing but a white screen.

It doesn’t happen with any other page on the EMB. Why? And why just on my phone?  Too much glory hole porn?  Lynched, has this ever happened to you?

I remember someone else had an issue like this, maybe down under mike before he left.  Try changing the mode or the theme at the bottom of the page.

19 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

I remember someone else had an issue like this, maybe down under mike before he left.  Try changing the mode or the theme at the bottom of the page.

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See those two icons next to 'Start new topic'?

Which of those two icons is active (for me, it's the one on the left). If yours is the one on the right, click the one on the left and then try to get into CVON and see if it works. 

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