December 11, 20231 yr Just now, opa-opa said: I still cant figure out why we are making our 100+ million QB play running back. Someone explain that to me. $250M+ QB. And its partly because without it, he's less effective... and partly because the OC is a college level OC.
December 11, 20231 yr 3 minutes ago, opa-opa said: I still cant figure out why we are making our 100+ million QB play running back. Someone explain that to me. Well some of it I think is because the run lanes just aren’t there and also because it’s what makes Jalen a threat. By running with Jalen you force defenses to have to react to dual threat.
December 11, 20231 yr 4 minutes ago, opa-opa said: I still cant figure out why we are making our 100+ million QB play running back. Someone explain that to me. cause he has taken a step or 2 back in his reading the defensive scheme and bails right away or holds the ball forever
December 11, 20231 yr 4 minutes ago, opa-opa said: I still cant figure out why we are making our 100+ million QB play running back. Someone explain that to me. Because if you hand a guy a big contract based on a particular skill set that carried you to a Superbowl, immediately hobbling your offense by stopping him doing a key part of the offensive performance that won him the contract would be as dumb as rocks (the densest rock you can find), like it would make you literally the stupidest Fing football coach on Gods green Earth.
December 11, 20231 yr woke up and saw snow on the truck and decided to take a mental health day ,LOL and not watching any of the talking heads all week.
December 11, 20231 yr I still think Hurts is capable of being a good to great QB, but the reality is he is not a magician. He, like any QB out there needs playmakers. Look at Mahomes. He doesn’t have the same talent outside of Travis Kelce, and you see the decline in his play and KC’s offense. How many really believe in Brock Purdy? Not many I’m guessing, but the dude has weapons and is taking advantage. Hurts needs more than what he has but he also has to start involving others in the offense too. And no, coaching is not absolved. That plays a part as well.
December 11, 20231 yr 34 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: I still think Hurts is capable of being a good to great QB, but the reality is he is not a magician. He, like any QB out there needs playmakers. Look at Mahomes. He doesn’t have the same talent outside of Travis Kelce, and you see the decline in his play and KC’s offense. How many really believe in Brock Purdy? Not many I’m guessing, but the dude has weapons and is taking advantage. Hurts needs more than what he has but he also has to start involving others in the offense too. And no, coaching is not absolved. That plays a part as well. The front office and coaching staff need to invest in creating dimension of the offense that attacks the middle of the field, even if that's not Hurts's preference. That's why I say that drafting a good slot receiver is a must during the offseason.
December 11, 20231 yr Shocking that he gets paid and he’s not the same as last year. Amazing that one good year doesn’t make a career.
December 11, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, opa-opa said: I still cant figure out why we are making our 100+ million QB play running back. Someone explain that to me. He isn't a pocket QB regardless of the stats people toss around saying otherwise. He panics, refuses to step up, and only throws to two WR
December 11, 20231 yr Hurts is mobile Wentz. Monster second year getting to the Superbowl and straight downhill after getting paid.
December 11, 20231 yr As crazy as it sounds at this point the dude who said we should rest Hurts and let Mariota play might be right. At least the offense will need to adjust...maybe they will design more ball control plays for Mariota.
December 11, 20231 yr You really all have to be kidding... until last week he was one of the front runners in the MVP conversation. Really Fing short memories around here
December 11, 20231 yr Look at his stats. He is not all that good, but people want to believe he is sooooo badly.
December 12, 20231 yr I think honestly the offense is just way too predictable these days. There’s a reason why nfl teams don’t base an entire offense off RPO schemes. We have high school coaches running a Hs offense and the league has figured out how to stop it, and the same can be said about the defense. Vanilla scheme. Goes back to what nick said day 1, the first part of being smart is knowing what to do. Clearly we are not working with the brightest coaches.
December 12, 20231 yr STOP. WITH. THE. TURNOVERS. Leave your dumb plays at home or on the plane or in the hotel. That's my #1 issue with him. Play a clean game and the Iggles most likely win.
December 13, 20231 yr Siri in his press conferences has said several times that they aren't "missing reads" for open receivers, that it's play design. In yesterday's PC he laughed at a question about targeting other receivers besides the top 3 (Brown, Smith, Goedert). He said "what other guys" smugly. He said the offense runs through those 3 guys, they purposely don't have reads to go to other receivers so it's not a read, it's the plan. Last year other receivers had more targets and targets to Brown and Smith were closer. This year Brown has way more targets than Smitty, and very minimal targets to other receivers and RBs this year. So does that answer that Hurts isn't missing reads, it's the design and what he's told to do?
December 13, 20231 yr 19 hours ago, LacesOut said: STOP. WITH. THE. TURNOVERS. Leave your dumb plays at home or on the plane or in the hotel. That's my #1 issue with him. Play a clean game and the Iggles most likely win. This is true. More of a factor than I realized over his last 10+ games.
December 13, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, NOTW said: Siri in his press conferences has said several times that they aren't "missing reads" for open receivers, that it's play design. In yesterday's PC he laughed at a question about targeting other receivers besides the top 3 (Brown, Smith, Goedert). He said "what other guys" smugly. He said the offense runs through those 3 guys, they purposely don't have reads to go to other receivers so it's not a read, it's the plan. Last year other receivers had more targets and targets to Brown and Smith were closer. This year Brown has way more targets and very minimal targets to other receivers and RBs this year. So does that answer that Hurts isn't missing reads, it's the design and what he's told to do? Makes you wonder if he got pissed at the play Hurts made to OZ against the Bills like Shannahan got pissed with Purdy for throwing a TD to an open Aiyuk? You can clearly see Hurts look at open guys wanting to throw instinctively, but then going somewhere else to one of the "three” main guys, namely AJ.
December 13, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, D.WATSfromda757 said: Makes you wonder if he got pissed at the play Hurts made to OZ against the Bills like Shannahan got pissed with Purdy for throwing a TD to an open Aiyuk? You can clearly see Hurts look at open guys wanting to throw instinctively, but then going somewhere else to one of the "three” main guys, namely AJ. this would be very dumb if its true. take what the defense gives you. don't force it.
December 13, 20231 yr 22 minutes ago, Soumak said: this would be very dumb if its true. take what the defense gives you. don't force it. The coach already declared the offense runs through three main guys and is going to keep running through three guys….a few plays "here and there” for the other players, he said. I wonder if sirianni was a wr, and is this his thinking from the orientation of a former wr as the head coach?
December 14, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, D.WATSfromda757 said: The coach already declared the offense runs through three main guys and is going to keep running through three guys….a few plays "here and there” for the other players, he said. I wonder if sirianni was a wr, and is this his thinking from the orientation of a former wr as the head coach? I'm kind of surprised he seemed to double down on that in the latest interview. After 15 weeks of "not playing to their standard" and "needing to do a better job," it might be a good idea to try something different. Whether people think Quez is a good WR or not, it's pretty pointless to say the Eagles need an upgrade (draft, free agency, etc...) at WR3. What's the point if they aren't actually part of the passing game? Since Sirianni has been here, the slot WR has been the least productive part of the passing game. You look at a RB like Swift that played 393 snaps last season, was targeted 70 times, catching 48-380-3TDs (8.1 ypr) --- he supposedly adds an element to this offense in the passing game as a receiver. What has he done here? 523 snaps, 45 targets, 36-208-1TD (5.8 ypr). IMO, everybody is a weapon that can be used. Failing to do so isn't helping the main guys at all. Maybe passing to one of these other guys is better than just throwing the ball away because Smith and Brown were covered.
December 14, 20231 yr 11 minutes ago, brkmsn said: I'm kind of surprised he seemed to double down on that in the latest interview. After 15 weeks of "not playing to their standard" and "needing to do a better job," it might be a good idea to try something different. Whether people think Quez is a good WR or not, it's pretty pointless to say the Eagles need an upgrade (draft, free agency, etc...) at WR3. What's the point if they aren't actually part of the passing game? Since Sirianni has been here, the slot WR has been the least productive part of the passing game. You look at a RB like Swift that played 393 snaps last season, was targeted 70 times, catching 48-380-3TDs (8.1 ypr) --- he supposedly adds an element to this offense in the passing game as a receiver. What has he done here? 523 snaps, 45 targets, 36-208-1TD (5.8 ypr). IMO, everybody is a weapon that can be used. Failing to do so isn't helping the main guys at all. Maybe passing to one of these other guys is better than just throwing the ball away because Smith and Brown were covered. Well, I know he’s big on "tape” and I know other teams study everything they can get their hands on that they see The Eagles do. We’ll see in the post season what’s really what.
December 14, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, D.WATSfromda757 said: Well, I know he’s big on "tape” and I know other teams study everything they can get their hands on that they see The Eagles do. We’ll see in the post season what’s really what. I'd love to believe that we are just saving the real offense for the Super Bowl and this is just the vanilla preseason version... but, I don't. Sirianni does like to be super secretive about everything (game plans, injuries, etc...) But if he were really sitting on something that could help us win big games, that would be foolish. I've heard people comment about teams' trick plays and how the clever ones should have been saved for more important moments, but using them forces opponents to study that tape and spend preparation time to gameplan for the possibility. Likewise, utilizing more receiving targets forces teams to prepare for that as well. Everything you make them prepare for gives them less time to key on your bread and butter plays. The Eagles are doing less than any other team offensively as far as expanding the playbook or disguising intent. So even with our offensive line and playmakers, preparation is easy for opposing defenses. I just don't think Sirianni is sitting on anything much different than what we have seen through 15 games.
December 14, 20231 yr On 12/11/2023 at 5:14 PM, kiwinavega said: You really all have to be kidding... until last week he was one of the front runners in the MVP conversation. Really Fing short memories around here 15 hours ago, NOTW said: Siri in his press conferences has said several times that they aren't "missing reads" for open receivers, that it's play design. In yesterday's PC he laughed at a question about targeting other receivers besides the top 3 (Brown, Smith, Goedert). He said "what other guys" smugly. He said the offense runs through those 3 guys, they purposely don't have reads to go to other receivers so it's not a read, it's the plan. Last year other receivers had more targets and targets to Brown and Smith were closer. This year Brown has way more targets than Smitty, and very minimal targets to other receivers and RBs this year. So does that answer that Hurts isn't missing reads, it's the design and what he's told to do? All of this. Bunch of fickle fools on this thread. Everyone on this board agrees that the OC sucks. Yet up until a week or two Hurts was the clear MVP favourite. He’s still in the mix now if he can win out against some pretty weak teams. He’s willed us back into games we had no right to be in time and time again. He’s beaten teams with his arms and legs. His accuracy and deep ball has improved so much. I’m not blind. He needs to reduce the turnovers and stop holding the ball so long in certain situations. But he’s a great QB, a winner and we are lucky to have him.
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