December 14, 20231 yr 13 hours ago, D.WATSfromda757 said: Makes you wonder if he got pissed at the play Hurts made to OZ against the Bills like Shannahan got pissed with Purdy for throwing a TD to an open Aiyuk? You can clearly see Hurts look at open guys wanting to throw instinctively, but then going somewhere else to one of the "three” main guys, namely AJ. Every team should just defend the Eagles the same way...put your best defender on AJ or just double him and hope Hurts wastes plays throwing to him.
December 14, 20231 yr 16 hours ago, NOTW said: Siri in his press conferences has said several times that they aren't "missing reads" for open receivers, that it's play design. In yesterday's PC he laughed at a question about targeting other receivers besides the top 3 (Brown, Smith, Goedert). He said "what other guys" smugly. He said the offense runs through those 3 guys, they purposely don't have reads to go to other receivers so it's not a read, it's the plan. Last year other receivers had more targets and targets to Brown and Smith were closer. This year Brown has way more targets than Smitty, and very minimal targets to other receivers and RBs this year. So does that answer that Hurts isn't missing reads, it's the design and what he's told to do? If that's truly the case Siri and Johnson can both be gone today. To intentionally gimp the offense would be idiotic. As for the "MVP" talks, a lot of those had to do with having the best record in football. He had a three game stretch where he was unbelievable, but the bulk of his season he hasn't been. Not terrible, not elite. Just a good QB who turns the ball over every week and takes idiotic sacks consistently.
December 14, 20231 yr On 12/11/2023 at 3:40 PM, Talonblood said: Look at his stats. He is not all that good, but people want to believe he is sooooo badly. Making top salary killing their cap
December 14, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, Diehardfan said: Making top salary killing their cap there is only one stat that matters at the end of the day. its wins. and he is winning a lot. just cause the #'s don't reflect it doesn't mean he is bad. he isn't playing like top 3 but he is still playing like top 10 i would say.
December 14, 20231 yr 33 minutes ago, Soumak said: there is only one stat that matters at the end of the day. its wins. and he is winning a lot. just cause the #'s don't reflect it doesn't mean he is bad. he isn't playing like top 3 but he is still playing like top 10 i would say. I didn't say he was bad. Winning covers a lot of flaws. Lucky to have him? Yes, but I'm not seeing 50 million worth of value either right now. The guy may need to loosen the hell up because being too tight can be detrimental.
December 14, 20231 yr On 12/13/2023 at 12:08 PM, NOTW said: Siri in his press conferences has said several times that they aren't "missing reads" for open receivers, that it's play design. In yesterday's PC he laughed at a question about targeting other receivers besides the top 3 (Brown, Smith, Goedert). He said "what other guys" smugly. He said the offense runs through those 3 guys, they purposely don't have reads to go to other receivers so it's not a read, it's the plan. Last year other receivers had more targets and targets to Brown and Smith were closer. This year Brown has way more targets than Smitty, and very minimal targets to other receivers and RBs this year. So does that answer that Hurts isn't missing reads, it's the design and what he's told to do? I feel like that has to just be a case of Siri getting snippy with a reporter. To basically say that opposing defenses only have to cover three players from here on out is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.
December 14, 20231 yr 23 minutes ago, Kz! said: I feel like that has to just be a case of Siri getting snippy with a reporter. To basically say that opposing defenses only have to cover three players from here on out is one of the craziest things I've ever heard. Well, everyone knows the Chiefs are going out there to specifically target Kelce 1000 times, but yet and still, there he is…catching the ball…alllll …game.😏
December 14, 20231 yr 5 hours ago, Diehardfan said: Making top salary killing their cap He isn't earning that money- that's for sure.
December 15, 20231 yr 17 hours ago, Kz! said: I feel like that has to just be a case of Siri getting snippy with a reporter. To basically say that opposing defenses only have to cover three players from here on out is one of the craziest things I've ever heard. Agreed that it sounds crazy, but before ruling it out, let's look at the body of work and compare it to what he said there and what he has said in the past. Going back to JJAW, Sirianni stressed the importance of those WRs whose role is to block and then when they get a target in a game, (paraphrasing) he's like, "yeah ... that's really cool, you know, to see him get rewarded for all his hard work doing what we ask them to do." Also numerous times he referenced the passing game going through those 3 players since last season. Honestly, I think he meant what he said.
December 15, 20231 yr 16 hours ago, Procus said: This is a one star thread And that´s being very generous. I´d barely give it a cookie
December 15, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, brkmsn said: Agreed that it sounds crazy, but before ruling it out, let's look at the body of work and compare it to what he said there and what he has said in the past. Going back to JJAW, Sirianni stressed the importance of those WRs whose role is to block and then when they get a target in a game, (paraphrasing) he's like, "yeah ... that's really cool, you know, to see him get rewarded for all his hard work doing what we ask them to do." Also numerous times he referenced the passing game going through those 3 players since last season. Honestly, I think he meant what he said. I think he probably did mean it. I watch most of Siri´s pressers after games, and he doesn´t really have a record of being chippy with reporters, not least because he usually has one of his children with him. But at the same time, he´s merely stating the obvious - the passing game clearly goes through Smitty, Brown and Philly G. Anyone can look at this offense and notice that. They are three top-tier playmakers. But I also think there´s a little bit of mind games here. I´ve seen enough of him in his time here to give him the benefit of the doubt, and perhaps there is an element of keeping some things under wraps for the postseason. It´s been clear for a long time this team will be in the playoffs, and it was clear that ´gauntlet´ (wish I had a better word for it) part of the schedule would produce at least one loss, if not more. Whatever, he´s earned at least something of a pass for what he´s done with this team. Doesn´t mean he is untouchable, but he has earned a longer leash. If we lose more than one of the next four, then I will be concerned.
December 15, 20231 yr On 12/13/2023 at 12:08 PM, NOTW said: In yesterday's PC he laughed at a question about targeting other receivers besides the top 3 (Brown, Smith, Goedert). He said "what other guys" smugly. He said the offense runs through those 3 guys, they purposely don't have reads to go to other receivers so it's not a read, it's the plan. He pretty much said the same thing last year when he said he told Watkins that he's gonna be a decoy all year long. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of, limiting you pass plays to pretty much 2 receivers with a weak running game to go along with it. Not sure who's behind the decision to limit the targets to receivers, but from my understanding Sirianni does what he's told to do, if that's the case that directive is coming f trio of the analytic guys, Howie and Lurie. This team is gonna be doomed until they get a real HC that hand picks his OC and DC, those front office guys have no business being involved in play calling, they simply don't have the knowledge to do so. I think Dallas is a perfect example of the value of an experienced play caller, of course the FO doesn't value coaches, they just want yes men.
December 15, 20231 yr We talk about Eagles coaches being yes men, but I really don´t see it. Our last four coaches: Big Red - record speaks for itself, wish he could have had a ring with us, but successful nonetheless Chip Kelly - lol Doug Pederson - Super Bowl champion Nick Sirianni - NFC Champion, with more to come Chipper aside, the Eagles have been blessed with excellent, high achieving coaches. Even Chipper looked like the future for a while. I really don´t get where this distorted view of Eagles coaches comes from, since and including Big Red, they have all had certain degrees of success, even ´Fin score points´ Kelly
December 17, 20231 yr I think the problem we’re having is entirely the scheme. Hurts isn’t suddenly worse, the offensive weapons aren’t suddenly worse, the Oline might be a little worse but not enough to affect us. The biggest difference between this year and last is rushing and defense. We had 148 rushing yards a game last year, vs 124 this year. Dropping 20+ yards every single game is a big step back. Rushing helps the defense a huge amount as well with ball control. Additionally, we allowed 19.8 PPG last year vs 24.7 this year. Scoring 24-28 points last year meant we almost certainly won. Doing that this year is 50/50 at best. Maintaining a lead when your defense is stingy makes you look better than struggling to win when your D gave up a ton, even if your performance is nearly identical. The interceptions are a bit higher, but otherwise if I showed you this graphic before the season, almost everyone here would have been happy to see it:
December 19, 20231 yr On 12/15/2023 at 3:12 PM, kiwinavega said: We talk about Eagles coaches being yes men, but I really don´t see it. Our last four coaches: Big Red - record speaks for itself, wish he could have had a ring with us, but successful nonetheless Chip Kelly - lol Doug Pederson - Super Bowl champion Nick Sirianni - NFC Champion, with more to come Chipper aside, the Eagles have been blessed with excellent, high achieving coaches. Even Chipper looked like the future for a while. I really don´t get where this distorted view of Eagles coaches comes from, since and including Big Red, they have all had certain degrees of success, even ´Fin score points´ Kelly Interesting thing of note is that the Reid, Pederson, and Sirianni hires were all panned by the sports media whereas Chip Kelly was the one with all the hype with his offense at Oregon. Those 3 guys did something that Chip couldn't with the Eagles, take the team to the Super Bowl. Some credit should go to ownership in terms of being intentional with their hiring process otherwise the Eagles probably wouldn't be seeing this level of success during Lurie's tenure as owner.
December 19, 20231 yr F that guy. I'm done with him. Smug self-loving POS. He'll brush this off in his presser being the casual jag that he is. F him forever.
December 19, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, Eagz said: F that guy. I'm done with him. Smug self-loving POS. He'll brush this off in his presser being the casual jag that he is. F him forever. You don't want to watch another humbling presser? Haha. Dude is a itch
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