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Abc news already all over the ar15 angle…

 

Reported as 22 killed 

 

 

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Saw 16

but not that they had him

victims in two different cities, likely by the same shooter

 

6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Saw 16

but not that they had him

he's not in custody but seems that have narrowed in on his location

 

"This is a very active and dynamic situation. The image of at least one active killer has been released by police. He is armed with a tactical rifle," Jim Cavanaugh, an NBC News law enforcement contributor and a former special agent in the ATF, said in a text message.

"Law Enforcement is now swarming the area attempting to locate, isolate and eliminate the active killer or killers," he said.

Seeing speculation of him being ex-military based on his movements and tactics. Could be similar to the Dallas shooter from a few years ago.

What a mess.

I listen to this story on my way to work. Are they getting close to finding this guy?

 

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A bulletin put out by the Maine Information and Analysis Center, a database for law enforcement officials, said Card was a trained firearms instructor and was believed to be in the Army Reserve.

It added that law enforcement said Card "recently reported mental health issues to include hearing voices and threats to shoot up the National Guard Base in Saco, ME."

 

Another mentally ill guy with a gun.

 

Good thing we don't have a problem with those combined issues in the USA. Seems like gun training is not enough, this was an instructor.

 

Shame there is no way to fix it. Thoughts and prayers.

If he was committed then he was supposed to have had the firearms removed

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

If he was committed then he was supposed to have had the firearms removed

Only if he was involuntary committed.  If he went of his own volition then no.

13 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Only if he was involuntary committed.  If he went of his own volition then no.

Main has laws prohibiting people from firearms if they're a danger to themselves or others. It was reported he said he was hearing voices and was going to shoot up the base

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Main has laws prohibiting people from firearms if they're a danger to themselves or others. It was reported he said he was hearing voices and was going to shoot up the base

Funny how such behavior does not seem to lead to guns being removed from homes.

2 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Funny how such behavior does not seem to lead to guns being removed from homes.

Well that's on the system failing to do its job 🤷‍♂️

20 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Well that's on the system failing to do its job 🤷‍♂️

the system is failing too often to not be under a microscope. like in so many instances, if the laws already on the books were enforced, we wouldnt have some of the issues we do. 

 

3 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

the system is failing too often to not be under a microscope. like in so many instances, if the laws already on the books were enforced, we wouldnt have some of the issues we do. 

 

Seeing as how the system fails in numerous other areas I'd agree

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1 hour ago, Toastrel said:

Funny how such behavior does not seem to lead to guns being removed from homes.

So ignore due process and rights there, mr trump?

40 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

So ignore due process and rights there, mr trump?

F you, AOC.

I'm saying the process is broken, if mentally ill doofuses can threaten to shoot up a NG facility, and still remain at large with their weapons.

Clearly, the system for removing guns does not exist in any meaningful form.

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Its a legal quagmire for certain. 

4 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Main has laws prohibiting people from firearms if they're a danger to themselves or others. It was reported he said he was hearing voices and was going to shoot up the base

Yes, the law states you are prohibited if you’ve been involuntarily committed to a mental hospital.   So like I said, if he went in on his own volition, he wouldn’t be prohibited from possessing them just because he was in an institution.

Someone who knows him could have reported him via red flag law and then after having a psyche eval could have determined he wasn’t fit to possess a gun.  But that’s a different process.  

12 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Yes, the law states you are prohibited if you’ve been involuntarily committed to a mental hospital.   So like I said, if he went in on his own volition, he wouldn’t be prohibited from possessing them just because he was in an institution.

Someone who knows him could have reported him via red flag law and then after having a psyche eval could have determined he wasn’t fit to possess a gun.  But that’s a different process.  

He was prohibited regardless because he was a danger to himself and others. He threatened to shoot up a base

https://legislature.maine.gov/legis/bills/bills_129th/billtexts/SP040801.asp

 

Great.  Now they'll have to scour the Maine wilderness with flaming-hot jamaican food diarrhea.

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He was prohibited regardless because he was a danger to himself and others. He threatened to shoot up a base

https://legislature.maine.gov/legis/bills/bills_129th/billtexts/SP040801.asp

Someone would have had to file a petition for a restraining order and then get it approved by the court.   Him just checking himself into an institution or saying he wanted to shoot a place up isn’t enough on its own.  If he was involuntarily committed, he’d be prohibited without the need for a restraining order.

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