4 minutes ago, Maga301 said:

Yea but Stoutland may have hit his cap here, what happens if Stout gets a college coordinator job? Here he will just be OLine coach, yea he will make good money but I feel like new hires bring different vibes. New coaches want to assemble their squad. The new coach may or may not be on board with that. 

Stoutland has been an OL coach for much of his career and hasn't been an OC since 1992. 

The fact that he made it through the Chip Kelly, Doug Pederson, and now Nick Sirianni regimes shows that he's certainly valued. If he's let go, it won't be hard for him to get a new job.

1 minute ago, eaglesfan0075 said:

Stoutland has been an OL coach for much of his career and hasn't been an OC since 1992. 

The fact that he made it through the Chip Kelly, Doug Pederson, and now Nick Sirianni regimes shows that he's certainly valued. If he's let go, it won't be hard for him to get a new job.

Plus when Doug was here Stout was OLine and I think run game coordinator with Duce. Obviously that changed with Sirianni because we run the ball about 10% every game. Seasons like this can take a toll on guys, this season has likely aged quite a few people 

I just don't see it. I mean Nick is the guy defending BJ all season. He even took blame for bad playcalls.

So how do you get rid of BJ, but keep the guy who admitted to being ultimately responsible for the horrible stale "high-school" offense? It would make no logical sense.

You either keep both or get rid of both. I don't know why any good decent OC would want to become BJ's "replacement". 

I mean that Inquirer story that came out today tells you all need to know about the coaching dysfunction.

You saw how Hurts ran off the field, he was like get me the F out of here.

 

Don’t know if Lurie is more mad he has to fire Sirianni or the fact he knows he will need to hire a coach that will want some real power. 

12 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Don’t know if Lurie is more mad he has to fire Sirianni or the fact he knows he will need to hire a coach that will want some real power. 

At this point it is obvious that Siri is in the crosshairs. I hope he quits on his own tomorrow and goes somewhere to raise flowers. Be better for everyone.

7 hours ago, greenskeeper said:

Belecheat will be the next eagles head coach... Lurie tried to buy the Patriots so this would be the next best thing

Belichick has a really bad track record without Brady, sub .500 bad. Brady is responsible for all of his success, so I hope the Eagles go another direction and hire a coach that's wasn't completely carried by one of the best QBs ever to play the game.

If one player keeps consistently screwing up, you cut that player.  When it's the entire team, you fire the coaches.

Keep Stoutland.  Dump the rest.  Clean house, and start over.

2 hours ago, ilikepargo said:

If one player keeps consistently screwing up, you cut that player.  When it's the entire team, you fire the coaches.

Keep Stoutland.  Dump the rest.  Clean house, and start over.

But Lurry would rather loose it his way then once again give up power to Another Head coach/GM. And even though this is exactly what this organization requires more then anything now an experienced HC… My guess Siri will remain, with Lurry picking his new assistants for him next year. It will get worse before it gets better. The owner is a problem for any meaningful change. I so much hope that Siri will take a Pederson route and tell the owner FU.so it is obvious to everyone that meddling with football coaches by an owner will not fly.

They should really speak to the players. They are the ones that have to work for these coaches that don't have a clue. If sirianni is back then i agree that certain players may be requesting a trade

 

33 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

They should really speak to the players. They are the ones that have to work for these coaches that don't have a clue. If sirianni is back then i agree that certain players may be requesting a trade

 

One of the reasons Desai was demoted was because of the players. A number of them felt he was overloading them with information and they couldn't play on instinct. 

There is apparently a disconnect in philosophy between Sirianni, Johnson and Hurts. This includes the players improvising and not trusting the coaches calls. 

I think it's likely that Sirianni stays in charge and you have two different coordinators next year

9 minutes ago, Mat said:

I think it's likely that Sirianni stays in charge and you have two different coordinators next year

Keep a head coach who’s supposedly "an offensive mind” and couldn’t call his own plays when the offense clearly struggled this season? No thanks. 

I think what this season made clear is that Siri is at best a John Harbaugh type coach. He isn’t a genius schemer on either side of the ball - so will always be reliant on having right coordinators around him. But he may / may not be the right type of leader when he has the right support system around him. 
 

The inability to fix this thing or even show marginal improvements for 7 weeks straight is a major concern. But then he has made playoffs in all 3 seasons. This team has SB aspirations of last year but the talent on D especially wasn’t there, and the schemes went backwards. I’m 50/50 on whether he is back or not. Happy whichever way they go but if he is back, has to be with major changes to his staff. 

7 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

Keep a head coach who’s supposedly "an offensive mind” and couldn’t call his own plays when the offense clearly struggled this season? No thanks. 

I don’t think he is an offensive mind…but looking at the body of work and not just this year, he may be the leader and motivator (the collapse this year doesn’t help this argument I know). But he did have us in SB last year and 10-1 this year with wins over Chiefs, Bulls, Cowboys, Dolphins. 
 

It’s very similar to the Doug Pederson situation actually. Has he lost the team? Is he too stubborn to realise the changes needed?

I lost respect for Siri because they couldn’t turn it around, a good coach would have been able to do it. I just don’t see this turning around next year either, I think he lost the team honesty. 
 

4 minutes ago, Mr_Philly said:

I lost respect for Siri because they couldn’t turn it around, a good coach would have been able to do it. I just don’t see this turning around next year either, I think he lost the team honesty. 
 

That’s where I’m at. He lost the team, he had no answers and I don’t see him being able to turn this around. So get rid of him because he’s a clown who’s going to waste a year.

12 minutes ago, MagicMoment said:

Keep a head coach who’s supposedly "an offensive mind” and couldn’t call his own plays when the offense clearly struggled this season? No thanks. 

Designing an offense and calling an offense are two different things.

More often than not this year the 'scripted' drives were quite successful this season. So he is probably really good at game planning but he had the self awareness to not call the plays

He has a track record of being an excellent motivator and leader so the Harbaugh comparison that @kiwieagle made is probably pretty apt 

2 minutes ago, Mat said:

Designing an offense and calling an offense are two different things.

More often than not this year the 'scripted' drives were quite successful this season. So he is probably really good at game planning but he had the self awareness to not call the plays

He has a track record of being an excellent motivator and leader so the Harbaugh comparison that @kiwieagle made is probably pretty apt 

His offense was rubbish and his scripted plays were hit and miss. And he may have been a good motivator but he lost the locker room and he had no answers for how to turn it around. He’s got to go. Has to.

9 minutes ago, Mr_Philly said:

I lost respect for Siri because they couldn’t turn it around, a good coach would have been able to do it. I just don’t see this turning around next year either, I think he lost the team honesty. 

Yep, that’s the biggest struggle with this. He had 7 weeks and couldn’t even drive marginal improvement. The ship just kept sinking….

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That’s where I’m at. He lost the team, he had no answers and I don’t see him being able to turn this around. So get rid of him because he’s a clown who’s going to waste a year.

Agreed, let’s face it, at the very least he is going to have to get a DC and OC again, his choices weren’t exactly stellar last year so why not start fresh. Siri didn’t help his cause last night by getting blown out either, Lurie was pissed and I think he is going to fire him.

Just now, Mr_Philly said:

Agreed, let’s face it, at the very least he is going to have to get a DC and OC again, his choices weren’t exactly stellar last year so why not start fresh. Siri didn’t help his cause last night by getting blown out either, Lurie was pissed and I think he is going to fire him.

He shouldn’t be afforded that time. Sorry but he shouldn’t. He got it wrong with his hires this year and then as the HC he couldn’t fix what was happening and it ended in a complete collapse. He may have gotten this team to the play offs in 3 straight seasons. He may have gotten us to the SB last year. And overall he may have a good regular season record. But this guys play of record is sandwiched by 2 heavy losses to Tampa in the divisional round.

6 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Tampa in the divisional round

Wild card

Just now, Bwestbrook36 said:

Wild card

Sorry sorry not thinking 100%. Yes wild card.

This is what you get with a weak HC and a meddling front office.  I won't be surprised if he's canned...but it will just repeat itself again.

I can get behind letting sirrianni go but, I don't believe for a second that these coordinators were solely picked by him 

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I can get behind letting sirrianni go but, I don't believe for a second that these coordinators were solely picked by him 

They may not have been but he’s the HC and so it falls with him. Would I like to see Lurie get rid of Howie? Yeah at this point I think that’s where we are at. But he’s not going to so let’s hit reset with the coaches.