Brace yourselves, things are going to get worse before they get better. Siri may get fired, and he should, but the next HC has to live with Howie running things and a team that loves analytics. This team got lucky that the last two head coaches had a QB on a rookie contract play at an MVP level, which allowed Howie to make a bunch of trades and FA signings. Hurts is on the "2nd contract” and now Howie can’t load up on free agents, and he sucks drafting outside the top 10, and can’t draft the back 7 on defense worth a F anyway. 

3 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I can get behind letting sirrianni go but, I don't believe for a second that these coordinators were solely picked by him 

Sure, they aren't.  Our FO wants to meddle in everything.  

Just now, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Sure, they aren't.  Our FO wants to meddle in everything.  

Exactly, that's also the reason we will continue to get the same kind of coaches. 

4 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Brace yourselves, things are going to get worse before they get better. Siri may get fired, and he should, but the next HC has to live with Howie running things and a team that loves analytics. This team got lucky that the last two head coaches had a QB on a rookie contract play at an MVP level, which allowed Howie to make a bunch of trades and FA signings. Hurts is on the "2nd contract” and now Howie can’t load up on free agents, and he sucks drafting outside the top 10, and can’t draft the back 7 on defense worth a F anyway. 

That rookie contract model seems to work alot.  Maybe, we need to seek a Wentz-like miracle trade and see where it goes.  Ther is too much invested in QBs, especially to get mediocre performances.

22 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I can get behind letting sirrianni go but, I don't believe for a second that these coordinators were solely picked by him 

I think the Johnson promotion was natural, a lot of good teams promote from within plus you're trying to give Hurts continuity.

I'm pretty sure Desai was a Fangio recommendation they weren't sold on when Gannon left and they couldn't get Fangio. Hence why they brought in the other D-bag as an insurance policy 

Is Mike Vrabel a fit here?

29 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Is Mike Vrabel a fit here?

Doesnt seem like a yes man.

Lurie and Howie need a brash coach that will challege them, a guy like buddy ryan who holds the whole organization from top to bottom to the fire.

Only guy with that kind of clout is belicheat.

Or maybe Rex Ryan.

Howie and Lurie dont want that though, they want yes men they can hide behind and make scaoegoats when rhey fail, im sure the analytics deiartment favors this approach...

Insane how bad this team got. It’s hard to find the words for it. Losing to a mediocre team 32-9 in the playoffs is just atrocious. 

14 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Insane how bad this team got. It’s hard to find the words for it. Losing to a mediocre team 32-9 in the playoffs is just atrocious. 

Agreed and that’s why I’m leaning towards moving on from Siri.  Aside from what appears him losing the team he has also lost us fans. If he doesn’t correct this early next season (which I don’t think he will) it’s going to get ugly real quick.

To be a good HC you need to have 4 abilities:

1) hire a good coaching staff

2) be good at play design and a good play caller on whatever side of the ball it is you specialize in

3) develop good team chemistry

4) scheme in such a way so as to maximize the talent you are provided (because we all know you aren't going to have pro bowlers at every position)

Sirianni doesn't check any of those boxes.  He did #3 for a while but team chemistry went down the toilet this year and he did nothing to fix it.  

I would be shocked if he isn't fired today or tomorrow.  And he absolutely needs to be ... he is in WAAAAAYYYYY over his head.  

9 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I would be shocked if he isn't fired today or tomorrow.  And he absolutely needs to be ... he is in WAAAAAYYYYY over his head.  

He needs to be but I really don’t think he’s going to be. He’s going to get another year just like Andy did, Chip did and Doug did.

36 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Insane how bad this team got. It’s hard to find the words for it. Losing to a mediocre team 32-9 in the playoffs is just atrocious. 

so it hasn't settled in yet for you that the Eagles are worse than mediocre at this point? 

40 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Doesnt seem like a yes man.

Lurie and Howie need a brash coach that will challege them, a guy like buddy ryan who holds the whole organization from top to bottom to the fire.

Only guy with that kind of clout is belicheat.

Or maybe Rex Ryan.

Howie and Lurie dont want that though, they want yes men they can hide behind and make scaoegoats when rhey fail, im sure the analytics deiartment favors this approach...

There's a reason why despite the Eagles respect as an organization, they have settled for HC's nobody else wanted the last 2 searches.

1 hour ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Is Mike Vrabel a fit here?

I'm a Ravens fan and it KILLS me we lose Mike Mcdonald.  So as long as that's a certainty with so many openings, I hope he goes to my other team/ex GF,  the Eagles.  Dude is an absolute GENIUS, the way he attacks modern offenses is the most beautiful defensive football I have seen in ages.  He would rebuild this defense through its spine, complete overhaul of LB's and Safeties.

12 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

There's a reason why despite the Eagles respect as an organization, they have settled for HC's nobody else wanted the last 2 searches.

Yup no respectable coach wants to just be Howies lackey and make all their decisions based on what analytics department tells them.

Eagles were really one of the teams that were out on the forefront of using and embracing analytics vlbut theyve gotten to the point now where their over reliance on that department has turned the team into a collection of heartless robots just following data and proticols.

Taking human instinct and heart out of the game leads to what we saw last night.

Having said that whatever the analytics are saying about beating the blitz needs to be re coded...😒

Until Howie and lurie are held accountable for their failures well keep getting the same heartless crap☹️

 

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Yup no respectable coach wants to just be Howies lackey and make all their decisions based on what analytics department tells them.

Eagles were really one of the teams that were out on the forefront of using and embracing analytics vlbut theyve gotten to the point now where their over reliance on that department has turned the team into a collection of heartless robots just following data and proticols.

Taking human instinct and heart out of the game leads to what we saw last night.

Having said that whatever the analytics are saying about beating the blitz needs to be re coded...😒

Until Howie and lurie are held accountable for their failures well keep getting the dame heartless crap☹️

 

Yeah maybe having 7/9 of your best defensive players all be linemen isn't great roster construction after all.

9 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

I'm a Ravens fan and it KILLS me we lose Mike Mcdonald.  So as long as that's a certainty with so many openings, I hope he goes to my other team/ex GF,  the Eagles.  Dude is an absolute GENIUS, the way he attacks modern offenses is the most beautiful defensive football I have seen in ages.  He would rebuild this defense through its spine, complete overhaul of LB's and Safeties.

He wont come here because howie and Luries precious analytics department says rushing 4 and dropping 7 every play gives one the best statistical chance at succeeding.

So theyll force a vic fangio disciple down the throat of whatever yes man HC they have...☹️

 

10 minutes ago, Utebird said:

He wont come here because howie and Luries precious analytics department says rushing 4 and dropping 7 every play gives one the best statistical chance at succeeding.

So theyll force a vic fangio disciple down the throat of whatever yes man HC they have...☹️

 

Dude, have you watched the Ravens?  They rush 4 and drop 7, it's how they do it and disguise it that's incredible.  The eagles tried to simulate some of it but they don't have the brains or the personnel. All 7 of those 1st rd dLinemen can't do squat in space, the LB's are useless scrubs that can't tackle and the secondary telegraphs everything.

 

Hire McDonald and pick up the Ravens FA's, LB Queen and S Stone.  Bring back Chris hewitt as DC, the guy eagles should have hired last year.

29 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

I'm a Ravens fan and it KILLS me we lose Mike Mcdonald.  So as long as that's a certainty with so many openings, I hope he goes to my other team/ex GF,  the Eagles.  Dude is an absolute GENIUS, the way he attacks modern offenses is the most beautiful defensive football I have seen in ages.  He would rebuild this defense through its spine, complete overhaul of LB's and Safeties.

If Howie would let him...

4 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Yeah maybe having 7/9 of your best defensive players all be linemen isn't great roster construction after all.

Yup 

The roster construction on D since 2017 has been so weird 

In 2017 the eagles had the least amount of money allocated to Corner and were top 5 if not top in money allocated to safety.

So what does Howie proceed to do over the next couple years???

Ignore safety and hand out big contracts to old corners.

Even in 2017 the LBs while not world beaters were serviceable and the backups had defined special teams roles.

This years LBs were just a collection of other teams trash thrown onto the field with no thought into how theyd fit together and they looked that all year, there was no cohesion or direction in the back 7 all year and why would there be between a bunch of random dudes with zero chemistry?

 

 

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Dude, have you watched the Ravens?  They rush 4 and drop 7, it's how they do it and disguise it that's incredible.  The eagles tried to simulate some of it but they don't have the brains or the personnel. All 7 of those 1st rd dLinemen can't do squat in space, the LB's are useless scrubs that can't tackle and the secondary telegraphs everything.

 

Hire McDonald and pick up the Ravens FA's, LB Queen and S Stone.  Bring back Chris hewitt as DC, the guy eagles should have hired last year.

I have they also blitz quite a bit, compared to the eagles and throw a lot of non conventional looks blitzing DBs and safeties 

Also helps that they have guys that have played more than half a season together...

8 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I have they also blitz quite a bit, compared to the eagles and throw a lot of non conventional looks blitzing DBs and safeties 

Also helps that they have guys that have played more than half a season together...

And have LBs and safeties worth more than half a sheet ...

3 minutes ago, time2rock said:

And have LBs and safeties worth more than half a sheet ...

Its too bad Sydney Brown got hurt, hopefully he can come back strong...

I think he and Blank when healthy could be a good duo.

At LB the cupboard is so bare im not sure what they do.

Howie cant just keep bringing in random guys that were cut by other teams and supplementing with old beat down vets throughout the season.

The only LB theyve invested anything in is Nakobe Dean and hes a midget who cant cover in a passing league and cant stay healthy.

Even if Howie wanted to address LB I dont trust he knows how?

I guess I just don't see the point in firing Nick if all the rumors are true.  I know that something needs to change, because the team honestly turned into the worst in the league after SF beat them.  So, whether that's a new OC/DC, less meddling from the FO, or Nick getting the boot, it needs to happen in the offseason.

He’s done in my eyes!