Is Nick Sirianni sabotaging Jalen Hurts? (Whether intentionally or not)

[Ace Nova]

Reports are now surfacing about a major "disconnect” between Hurts, Brian Johnson (Probably AJ Brown) vs Nick Sirianni.  
 

Apparently Hurts/Johnson/Brown want more short/intermediate passes in between the hash marks/middle of the field but Sirianni has refused to adjust his offense accordingly. 
 

Jalen Hurts has a PERFECT 158.3 passer rating to intermediate passes middle of the field & 99.6 rating short middle - yet only 5.2% of the passes called are to the middle of the field this season - the lowest in the entire NFL.

READ THAT AGAIN.

 

 What is the excuse for that? Makes zero sense.

The Eagles blitz pick up consist of 2-3 plays that rarely work - WR screen and/or throwing it deep. (Or Hurts running for his life) 

What’s the excuse of not coming up with an additional 5-6 plays for Blitz pickup? 

By refusing to adjust his offense to the strength of his QB and receivers Sirianni is sabotaging Hurts (whether intentionally or not). 
 

Take your pick.

 

[judunno]

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Reports are now surfacing about a major "disconnect” between Hurts, Brian Johnson (Probably AJ Brown) vs Nick Sirianni.  
 

Apparently Hurts/Johnson/Brown want more short/intermediate passes in between the hash marks/middle of the field but Sirianni has refused to adjust his offense accordingly. 
 

Jalen Hurts highest rated passes 105+ QB rating are to the middle of the field yet only 5.2% of the passes called are to the middle of the field this season - the lowest in the entire NFL.
 

 What is the excuse for that other than is Nick intentionally trying to sabotage Hurts in an attempt to get another QB in here to run his offense the way he wants it run without being questioned?  Makes zero sense.

The Eagles blitz pick up consist of 2 plays that rarely work - WR screen and/or throwing it deep.

What’s the excuse of not coming up with an additional 5-6 plays for Blitz pickup? 

If he’s not intentionally trying to sabotage it then he’s completely incompetent as a head coach. 
 

Take your pick.

 

Sorry... that makes no sense. A failing Hurts means Siri is out of here after the big 1/4 billion dollar commitment that was made. Siri doesn't get another chance with another QB. Hell he may only get 1 more year if he's lucky.

[Ace Nova]

29 minutes ago, judunno said:

Sorry... that makes no sense. A failing Hurts means Siri is out of here after the big 1/4 billion dollar commitment that was made. Siri doesn't get another chance with another QB. Hell he may only get 1 more year if he's lucky.

The post is intended to show the incompetence level of Sirianni if he truly refuses to adjust his system to the strengths of his QB’s and receivers.   By doing that he is (as a result) sabotaging Hurts (whether intentional or not). 

[Arsenal79]

He’s not smart enough for such a devious plan.  Incompetence is a better explanation.  
 

Major Chip Kelly vibes with refusing to adjust a simplistic offensive scheme that has been exposed.

[brkmsn]

What do the analytics say?

[thedanone82]

It looks pretty obvious Hurts can't read a defense to adjust for a blitz. Play calling can help but isn't the entire fix.

[Ace Nova]

1 minute ago, brkmsn said:

What do the analytics say?

That he’s sabotaging his QB.  lol

[Ace Nova]

Just now, thedanone82 said:

It looks pretty obvious Hurts can't read a defense to adjust for a blitz. Play calling can help but isn't the entire fix.

Nah.  Hurts knows when a blitz is coming.  He has 2-3 options when blitzed.  To run, to pass a WR screen or to see if anyone is open deep.  Literally has happened all-season-long. 

[The Norseman]

While this theory makes no sense, the plays on the field sure would support it.  Seemed like every time Hurts rolled out the pocket our receivers were blanketed on the edges. If there is any truth to this Nick needs to go.  You play to the strengths of your QB to win games, period. 

Just ask Doug Pederson and Nick Foles how that's supposed to work. 

[thedanone82]

Just now, Ace Nova said:

Nah.  Hurts knows when a blitz is coming.  He has 2-3 options when blitzed.  To run, to pass a WR screen or to see if anyone is open deep.  Literally has happened all-season-long. 

If he knows it's coming he can audible to a play to have a WR open where the blitz is coming from. So many plays where free rushes are coming and he looks like a deer in headlights and throws up a prayer 

[Ace Nova]

1 minute ago, The Norseman said:

While this theory makes no sense, the plays on the field sure would support it.  Seemed like every time Hurts rolled out the pocket our receivers were blanketed on the edges. If there is any truth to this Nick needs to go.  You play to the strengths of your QB to win games, period. 

Just ask Doug Pederson and Nick Foles how that's supposed to work. 

Exactly.  And it’s not really a theory - the original post was to show how Sirianni’s blatant  incompetence and stubbornness to adjust his system has indirectly sabotaged Hurts and the entire offense. 

[Ace Nova]

4 minutes ago, thedanone82 said:

If he knows it's coming he can audible to a play to have a WR open where the blitz is coming from. So many plays where free rushes are coming and he looks like a deer in headlights and throws up a prayer 

Because he doesn’t have options.  Hurts has been beating blitzes since high school, all through out college - most of his NFL career - including all of last season - all the way to the Super Bowl.
 

 This season, defenses have adjusted to Sirianni’s system but Sirianni refuses to (or doesn’t know how to) counter adjust it.   It’s 90% coaching/system. 

[rrfierce]

If this is the case and we're intentially ignoring these passes to the middle, then its a sackable offence. 

as shown when used AGAINST us, its a very powerful tool and another nail in siri's coffin IMO

[judunno]

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

The post is intended to show the incompetence level of Sirianni if he truly refuses to adjust his system to the strengths of his QB’s and receivers.   

It's not just Siri incompetence if what they do is heavily dictated by Howie & Co. IMO this is a massive failure from Siri on Up when it comes to the personnel, planning, philosophy and approach. Players failed to execute as well with the turnovers and mental mistakes and such. This type of collapse takes all hands on deck. Even Big Dom got in the mix lol.

[judunno]

22 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

He’s not smart enough for such a devious plan.  Incompetence is a better explanation.  
 

Major Chip Kelly vibes with refusing to adjust a simplistic offensive scheme that has been exposed.

Chip Kelly was worse because he had full control of everything. I don't think that's the case with Siri nor Dougy P when he was here hence his exit.

[Ace Nova]

Just now, judunno said:

It's not just Siri incompetence if what they do is heavily dictated by Howie & Co. IMO this is a massive failure from Siri on Up when it comes to the personnel, planning, philosophy and approach. Players failed to execute as well with the turnovers and mental mistakes and such. This type of collapse takes all hands on deck. Even Big Dom got in the mix lol.

When a system fails, there is a snowball effect and that’s exactly what we’ve witnessed this season. 

[judunno]

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

When a system fails, there is a snowball effect and that’s exactly what we’ve witnessed this season. 

I'm convinced that they played the analytics game and kept going with it hoping that the probabilities would turn their way and they never did. It's like the gambler at the casino... this time I'm gonna win.

[Ace Nova]

Just now, judunno said:

I'm convinced that they played the analytics game and kept going with it hoping that the probabilities would turn their way and they never did.

Could be.  But that doesn’t work in reality, does it?  

[pallidrone]

I mean this does make sense. When Siri started here he was calling the plays and nothing was working for the first half of the season. He then handed the play calling off to Steinchen who changed the whole outlook of the offense. That really took off in year 2.

This offense looks a lot like the crap from the first half of year one.

[Utebird]

I think it comes straight down from the analytics department that says passes over the middle have a higher chance of being INT.

So when they ANALytics report comes to Siri the gameplan is based off that.

I think analytics has its place in game planning but the eagles FO takes it wat too far when a bunch of computer nerds are devising a game plan

[EazyEaglez]

Stoutland U and that offense weren’t exactly doing the QB any favors. When players are stating that the defense was "impossible to run against” then something is wrong with your blocking schemes. This team was running against 8 man fronts in Siri’s first season so what gives? 

[Ace Nova]

On 1/17/2024 at 9:29 AM, Utebird said:

I think it comes straight down from the analytics department that says passes over the middle have a higher chance of being INT.

So when they ANALytics report comes to Siri the gameplan is based off that.

I think analytics has its place in game planning but the eagles FO takes it wat too far when a bunch of computer nerds are devising a game plan

Yeah maybe but still doesn’t make sense when the very same analytics CLEARLY show that Hurts and the receivers strengths are to the middle of the field.  And they show that beyond any reasonable doubt. 

[Ace Nova]

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

Stoutland U and that offense weren’t exactly doing the QB any favors. When players are stating that the defense was "impossible to run against” then something is wrong with your blocking schemes. This team was running against 8 man fronts in Siri’s first season so what gives? 

National media, coaches etc are all pretty much saying the same thing - it’s not just the fans that are seeing it.  As far as blaming Stoutland - he’s basically a position coach that needs to follow what the offensive coordinator and head coach want the offensive line to do.  He’s basically doing what they tell him they want him to do. 

[GoEagles614]

5% of the passes over the middle is a crazy stat. Wow. They’re the easiest throws you can give a QB. Especially against the blitz. 

[EazyEaglez]

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

National media, coaches etc are all pretty much saying the same thing - it’s not just the fans that are seeing it.  As far as blaming Stoutland - he’s basically a position coach that needs to follow what the offensive coordinator and head coach want the offensive line to do.  He’s basically doing what they tell him they want him to do. 

These guys weren’t holding blocks though on top of constantly letting free runners to the quarterback all game. Don’t really know who the Bucs defensive line is and everyone of them were constantly getting pressure. This team didn’t look prepared by any of their coaches and that includes Stoutland. With that being the case Sirianni’s extremely short practices makes it difficult for any players to actually be prepared. Walkthroughs aren’t actual practices.