June 20Jun 20 4 hours ago, Diehardfan said:The deal seems pretty straightforward. No enrichment. No program. No war.oh you're a darling, acting like Trump's holding the leash. Dude has literally frozen cuz he don't know which way is up.
June 20Jun 20 14 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:oh you're a darling, acting like Trump's holding the leash. Dude has literally frozen cuz he don't know which way is up.Cool. If he was dropping stuff he'd be destroying us all. If he did nothing he would be asleep at the wheel. Using us possibly getting involved as a carrot to negotiate is being frozen. Being serious how could he have handed it that would have pleased you?
June 20Jun 20 8 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:Cool. If he was dropping stuff he'd be destroying us all. If he did nothing he would be asleep at the wheel. Using us possibly getting involved as a carrot to negotiate is being frozen. Being serious how could he have handed it that would have pleased you?We had a treaty that even Israel had to kick rocks on, he shredded it.He said he'd make a better deal, it's now his 2nd term, he failed at that.Israel, just like Ukraine, is taking offensives without his consent and has dog walked him into a situation he has zero control over.Under Obama, it was an international agreement, all our allies we are on board with the execution. Now he's begging Putin to come in and fix it because our allies don't trust himTHERE IS NO DEAL LEFT TO BE HAD, OUR ALLIES DON'T TRUST HIM, IRAN DOESN'T TRUST HIM, DEALS THAT ACTUALLY WORK AND CAN BE EXECUTED REQUIRE TRUST YOU STUPID M"THER F"CKERHe already took credit for the attacks, at this point there is no choice but to send the bunker breakers and take them out and enter the MOTHER OF ALL FOREVER WARS that Obama and others were trying to avoid, but he's even too chicken shite for that.It's ALL on Trump and Israel isn't going to stop until THEY are satisfied.
June 20Jun 20 1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said:We had a treaty that even Israel had to kick rocks on, he shredded it.He said he'd make a better deal, it's now his 2nd term, he failed at that.Israel, just like Ukraine, is taking offensives without his consent and has dog walked him into a situation he has zero control over.Under Obama, it was an international agreement, all our allies we are on board with the execution. Now he's begging Putin to come in and fix it because our allies don't trust himTHERE IS NO DEAL LEFT TO BE HAD, OUR ALLIES DON'T TRUST HIM, IRAN DOESN'T TRUST HIM, DEALS THAT ACTUALLY WORK AND CAN BE EXECUTED REQUIRE TRUST YOU STUPID M"THER F"CKERHe already took credit for the attacks, at this point there is no choice but to send the bunker breakers and take them out and enter the MOTHER OF ALL FOREVER WARS that Obama and others were trying to avoid.It's ALL on Trump and Israel isn't going to stop until THEY are satisfied.Appreciate the time to write that. Lot of detail and thought Putting the past aside it doesn't sound like he could have done anything to handle this currently in your opinion.
June 20Jun 20 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:Appreciate the time to write that. Lot of detail and thoughtPutting the past aside it doesn't sound like he could have done anything to handle this currently in your opinion.He is the past. He has owned this since he tore up Obama's deal. And I just told you what he should do, send the bunker buster, blast them back a decade because Israel just started the forever war on your behalf.
June 20Jun 20 Honestly we're moving too many assets around and evacuating too many personnel for this to not be happening.
June 20Jun 20 44 minutes ago, Bill said:Honestly we're moving too many assets around and evacuating too many personnel for this to not be happening.And the "yeah it's sad but we shouldn't be funding a war in Ukraine" crowd really needs to be shutting the F up forever right about not
June 20Jun 20 13 hours ago, Mike030270 said:"A substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place..." - No crap, Sherlock. They may or may not take place. LMFAO
June 20Jun 20 5 hours ago, Bill said:Honestly we're moving too many assets around and evacuating too many personnel for this to not be happening.Nothing will happen unless Trump actually decides to pull the trigger and so far he's shown to be a massive pooseye when it comes down to it. He has positioned himself into a corner so he may ultimately have no choice but it remains to be seen if he can muster up the stones or not.
June 20Jun 20 21 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:2 weeks The official procrastinator's measurement. It's like smurfs being 3 apples high.
June 20Jun 20 11 hours ago, DEagle7 said:And the "yeah it's sad but we shouldn't be funding a war in Ukraine" crowd really needs to be shutting the F up forever right about notSeriously. How can someone who kicked and screamed at sending money and weapons so they can defend themselves be ok with sending in American troops to fight another country's unnecessary war for them? None of those clowns should ever be taken remotely seriously again.
June 20Jun 20 6 hours ago, DrPhilly said:Nothing will happen unless Trump actually decides to pull the trigger and so far he's shown to be a massive pooseye when it comes down to it. He has positioned himself into a corner so he may ultimately have no choice but it remains to be seen if he can muster up the stones or not.This is why putting a moron into the most powerful office in the world is not such a hot idea. Joe Biden with dementia was far more shrewd and well informed.
June 20Jun 20 12 hours ago, Bill said:Honestly we're moving too many assets around and evacuating too many personnel for this to not be happening.I drove my dover AFB yesterday. Counted about 15 or so c130’s and other jets ready to go. Usually it’s 1-2 sitting there.
June 20Jun 20 36 minutes ago, Gannan said:Seriously. How can someone who kicked and screamed at sending money and weapons so they can defend themselves be ok with sending in American troops to fight another country's unnecessary war for them? None of those clowns should ever be taken remotely seriously again.At this point trump could line up all the magats who still support him and go down the line, one by one, kicking each one of them right in the nuts. They would all continue to support him until they feel the pain themselves. The ultra-rubes, @Kz! @lynched1 @Diehardfan @The_Omega, would still applaud him for being the only person on the planet who was able to find a use for their nuts…
June 20Jun 20 1 minute ago, MidMoFo said:At this point trump could line up all the magats who still support him and go down the line, one by one, kicking each one of them right in the nuts. They would all continue to support him until they feel the pain themselves. The ultra-rubes, @Kz! @lynched1 @Diehardfan @The_Omega, would still applaud him for being the only person on the planet who was able to find a use for their nuts…Don’t forget about WV Mike who rheeeeeed about endless wars during the entire election cycle.
June 20Jun 20 2 minutes ago, Gannan said:Don’t forget about WV Mike who rheeeeeed about endless wars during the entire election cycle.They rheeee about what they are told to rheeee about. Whether it’s good/bad, hypocritical, projection, past failure or just an obvious bold-faced lie. They’re just doing what they’re trained to do.
June 20Jun 20 18 minutes ago, MidMoFo said:At this point trump could line up all the magats who still support him and go down the line, one by one, kicking each one of them right in the nuts. They would all continue to support him until they feel the pain themselves. The ultra-rubes, @Kz! @lynched1 @Diehardfan @The_Omega, would still applaud him for being the only person on the planet who was able to find a use for their nuts…I personally think that if Trump joins in, it'll be a horrible move and an absolute betrayal of his base. He's still infinity times better than Kamblah, obviously, but it would still be a sheety move.
June 20Jun 20 9 minutes ago, MidMoFo said:They rheeee about what they are told to rheeee about. Whether it’s good/bad, hypocritical, projection, past failure or just an obvious bold-faced lie. They’re just doing what they’re trained to do.It's actually been proven scientifically that left wing people have almost no diversity of thought and will coalesce around the consensus opinion of the party. So yeah, left wingers are far more likely to be trained to repeat whatever they're told.
June 20Jun 20 21 minutes ago, Kz! said:It's actually been proven scientifically that left wing people have almost no diversity of thought and will coalesce around the consensus opinion of the party. So yeah, left wingers are far more likely to be trained to repeat whatever they're told.Most of the CVON "liberals" don't agree on much, other than Trump sucks. Someone like Dave Moss and myself don't remotely share the same politics. Vikas for example is the most fiscally conservative person here. The only thing we have in common politically is that a game show host wanna be dictator is bad for the country.
June 20Jun 20 40 minutes ago, Kz! said:It's actually been proven scientifically that left wing people have almost no diversity of thought and will coalesce around the consensus opinion of the party. So yeah, left wingers are far more likely to be trained to repeat whatever they're told.Generally speaking, you'll find most liberals reach consensus on most things when it comes to science and the observable universe around them.On the other hand, half of MAGA still believes that the earth is flat, chemtrails are real, and that vaccines are population control. In that sense, the MAGA party is probably the single most diverse party to have ever existed. It's actually quite impressive that they've all managed to coalesce around one candidate.
June 20Jun 20 19 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:Generally speaking, you'll find most liberals reach consensus on most things when it comes to science and the observable universe around them.On the other hand, half of MAGA still believes that the earth is flat, chemtrails are real, and that vaccines are population control. In that sense, the MAGA party is probably the single most diverse party to have ever existed. It's actually quite impressive that they've all managed to coalesce around one candidate.True. One of the most impressive things about Trumpism is it combines a jealous and resentful populism with a smug elitist plutocracy.
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