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Injured Javon Hargrave to Miss Multiple Weeks


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25 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Didn't he get injured and put on IR last season or was that someone else?

Nope.  He has played 63 of 64 games in his career.  Missed one game his rookie year.

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33 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Nope.  He has played 63 of 64 games in his career.  Missed one game his rookie year.

Yet again another guy never injured and immediately catches the injury bug the minute they step on the field for the Eagles. It's freaking bizzare

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32 minutes ago, QuinnWR4 said:

Pectoral injury. Apparently Barnett is injured too and is week to week. Is it time to call Clowney or the Jags about a trade for Yannick?

No.  Injuries to our players does not change the cap situation.  We’re projected to be $71M OVER the 2021 cap ... worst in the league by far.  Howie is a genius when it comes to managing the cap but even he is going to have a hard time with this.  The result of the reduction in the cap due to the pandemic, a couple bad contracts (e.g. Jeffery), and from having kicked the can down the road a few too many times.  

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15 minutes ago, time2rock said:

No.  Injuries to our players does not change the cap situation.  We’re projected to be $71M OVER the 2021 cap ... worst in the league by far.  Howie is a genius when it comes to managing the cap but even he is going to have a hard time with this.  The result of the reduction in the cap due to the pandemic, a couple bad contracts (e.g. Jeffery), and from having kicked the can down the road a few too many times.  

I think we will need to def sacrifice a quality draft pick for some cap relief next year similar to Texans dumping Oswieler

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2 hours ago, QuinnWR4 said:

Pectoral injury. Apparently Barnett is injured too and is week to week. Is it time to call Clowney or the Jags about a trade for Yannick?

Do you know what kind of pec injury?  If it's torn we are totally f'ed.  And the way they communicate injuries now, this wouldn't surprise me one bit.  

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4 hours ago, time2rock said:

We’re projected to be $71M OVER the 2021 cap ... worst in the league by far.  

The salary cap this year is $215 million. That $71M "projection" is based on a "what if" that salary cap is lowered to $175 Million in 2021 scenario. That hasn't happened. The players certainly haven't agreed to it and it's very unlikely they would. So let's stick with the numbers we do know. Right now we sit at less than $52M over the cap in 2021 and still have over $20M this year we can roll over. 

You keep referring to a doom and gloom scenario article as if it's fact. I actually expect the NFL to do a lot better than expected. Interest and revenue has gone up every year. Combine that with entertainment demand increasing due to a lack of things to do resulting from the pandemic. People are going to want football. The NFL won't have to compete with college or even high school for the most part. Ratings will be high. Don't be surprised if commercials seem to "increase" along with average game duration. The NFL knows how to make money.

While it's fine to prepare for worst case scenarios, I really don't see that playing out. IMO, the cap won't decrease at all in 2021. If I'm wrong, don't be surprised to see some kind of team "bailout" measures enacted to protect existing contracts. 

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1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

The salary cap this year is $215 million. That $71M "projection" is based on a "what if" that salary cap is lowered to $175 Million in 2021 scenario. That hasn't happened. The players certainly haven't agreed to it and it's very unlikely they would. So let's stick with the numbers we do know. Right now we sit at less than $52M over the cap in 2021 and still have over $20M this year we can roll over. 

You keep referring to a doom and gloom scenario article as if it's fact. I actually expect the NFL to do a lot better than expected. Interest and revenue has gone up every year. Combine that with entertainment demand increasing due to a lack of things to do resulting from the pandemic. People are going to want football. The NFL won't have to compete with college or even high school for the most part. Ratings will be high. Don't be surprised if commercials seem to "increase" along with average game duration. The NFL knows how to make money.

While it's fine to prepare for worst case scenarios, I really don't see that playing out. IMO, the cap won't decrease at all in 2021. If I'm wrong, don't be surprised to see some kind of team "bailout" measures enacted to protect existing contracts. 

I agree it's not like they can just drop the cap that dramatically and just have to dump players. Teams are still handing record deals, I would think if they were worried about the cap dropping that dramatically they wouldn't be signing players to these big contracts. 

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13 hours ago, brkmsn said:

The salary cap this year is $215 million. That $71M "projection" is based on a "what if" that salary cap is lowered to $175 Million in 2021 scenario. That hasn't happened. The players certainly haven't agreed to it and it's very unlikely they would. So let's stick with the numbers we do know. Right now we sit at less than $52M over the cap in 2021 and still have over $20M this year we can roll over. 

You keep referring to a doom and gloom scenario article as if it's fact. I actually expect the NFL to do a lot better than expected. Interest and revenue has gone up every year. Combine that with entertainment demand increasing due to a lack of things to do resulting from the pandemic. People are going to want football. The NFL won't have to compete with college or even high school for the most part. Ratings will be high. Don't be surprised if commercials seem to "increase" along with average game duration. The NFL knows how to make money.

While it's fine to prepare for worst case scenarios, I really don't see that playing out. IMO, the cap won't decrease at all in 2021. If I'm wrong, don't be surprised to see some kind of team "bailout" measures enacted to protect existing contracts. 

I've been under the assumption that there will be some level of reduction in the 2021 salary cap - perhaps not as drastic as $40M (as projected in that piece I quoted).  Even if there is no reduction as you suspect and we still have that $20M to roll over come season’s end, we still enter the offseason $30M in the red (and would still place us at or near the bottom of the league).  Either way, Howie has his work cut out for him.  You can only kick the can down the road so much (as he has done repeatedly with Ertz, Johnson, Cox, etc.) before it catches up and you start making poor decisions to gain cap space (such as he did with Jeffery last year).  

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