January 7Jan 7 Latest presser from Rubio sounds like it is regime change and nation building. Of course we get the oil.
January 7Jan 7 6 hours ago, Mike31mt said:Maduro was an illegitimate president as determined by the UN, not just Donald Trump.I see, and who's the legitimate president that should take over instead?
January 8Jan 8 45 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:I see, and who's the legitimate president that should take over instead?It’ll be announced in two weeks.
January 8Jan 8 34 minutes ago, Bill said:It’ll be announced in two weeks.And then, only a concept of who it should be.
January 8Jan 8 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:I see, and who's the legitimate president that should take over instead?I think they should set up new elections, they're absolutely right not to insert Machado. It's time to admit that this is a win for Trump, he's playing this very well
January 8Jan 8 8 hours ago, DrPhilly said:The Maduro regime is still in power. Try again.Is that what I said?Man you guys are taking this HARDI said Maduro is not a legitimate president. Do you agree or disagree?
January 8Jan 8 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:I think they should set up new elections, they're absolutely right not to insert Machado.It's time to admit that this is a win for Trump, he's playing this very wellOh? And why's that?
January 8Jan 8 8 hours ago, Gannan said:Pretty sure. Didn't Ukranian aggression start the war? Putin just defending himself. Need to vote Trump into office because he will end the war in 24 hours, and keep the US out of foreign wars? Did someone hack your account or are there 2 Mikes from Skunk's Crotch West Virginia who slob Trump and Putin's knob?I never said Ukraine started the war. I criticized Biden for yet again sitting on his hands until it was too late to make any sort of impact. You agreed that he should have acted earlier but I bet you'll forget that now.It's 100% fact that Trump has and will handle this better than Biden did and Kamala ever could.
January 8Jan 8 8 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:Yes absolutely. Which is why Trump told Putin that he will not be allowed to continue his invasion of Ukraine, and that under no circumstances will this fight end with Russia keeping Ukrainian land....Oh wait, that's right, Trump proposed a "ceasefire" in which Russia was allowed to keep Ukrainian land so long as they pinky promise that they won't take any more land in the future.There is no realistic scenario where Trump is going to intervene militarily. Just stop. You guys are acting like irrational clowns.Trump is being pragmatic about this and it infuriates all of you because he's proving you wrong
January 8Jan 8 8 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:Yes, Maduro was an illegitimate president. No one is debating that. And it looks like Trump is completely fine with not interfering with the remaining illegitimate Maduro regime so long as they give the US more access to their oil."I understand you all prefer the Biden/Obama approach where we stand idly by as history unfolds before us and we then have to react from a position of weakness, but Trump is actually a competent foreign policy POTUS."This is quite ironic coming from the guy who wants us to stop providing money and weapons to Ukraine so they can better defend themselves against Russia and wants us to stand idly by as Putin attempts to recreate the USSR.....Ukraine and Venezuela have nothing to do with each other. Trump is playing the cards he was dealt and he's doing it well
January 8Jan 8 8 hours ago, Mike030270 said:The cult believing trump did this as some sort of humanitarian effort is Fing hilarious. Trump doesn’t give a crap about the people. He wants the oilOh yeah the Dems care. They really care, you know? So we should have elected them.You're acting like Trump wants to personally use this oil. What he's doing is beneficial to the US, it strengthens our nation and you all can't handle it.
January 8Jan 8 Author 12 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:Oh yeah the Dems care. They really care, you know? So we should have elected them.You're acting like Trump wants to personally use this oil. What he's doing is beneficial to the US, it strengthens our nation and you all can't handle it.You're acting like trumps not going to personally use this oil
January 8Jan 8 31 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:Oh yeah the Dems care. They really care, you know? So we should have elected them.You're acting like Trump wants to personally use this oil. What he's doing is beneficial to the US, it strengthens our nation and you all can't handle it.Oil? You told us this was about drugs, Michael. When exactly did this become about oil?
January 8Jan 8 32 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:Oh yeah the Dems care. They really care, you know? So we should have elected them.You're acting like Trump wants to personally use this oil. What he's doing is beneficial to the US, it strengthens our nation and you all can't handle it.It would technically be beneficial to the US if Trump initiated an operation that arrested MBS and told Saudi Arabia "give us $5 trillion or else we’ll be arresting more of your murderous regime administration”. That doesn’t mean it would be a good idea or right to do so.
January 8Jan 8 Rodriguez was only an illegitimate Vice President. But now she’s President so it’s fine. Check and mate, libs.
January 8Jan 8 2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:You're acting like trumps not going to personally use this oilThe beast does use a lot of fuel.......😆
January 8Jan 8 3 hours ago, Mike31mt said:Oh yeah the Dems care. They really care, you know? So we should have elected them.You're acting like Trump wants to personally use this oil. What he's doing is beneficial to the US, it strengthens our nation and you all can't handle it.Well at least it took all of ..*checks notes*..5 days for you mutton heads to suspend any pretense that this is for the good of Venezuela. But no, it's not good for the US either. This is not like Miller put it the way a superpower acts. This is the way a waning and desperate superpower acts, like Russia.
January 8Jan 8 Jan 8 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said that "only time will tell" how long the United States will maintain oversight of Venezuela in an interview published by the New York Times early on Thursday.When asked by the Times if it would it be three months, six months, a year or longer, Trump said: "I would say much longer.""We will rebuild it in a very profitable way," Trump said of Venezuela, adding, "we're going to be using oil, and we're going to be taking oil. We're getting oil prices down, and we're going to be giving money to Venezuela, which they desperately need."Obviously he's after oil. Why MAGA can't figure that out is beyond me.
January 8Jan 8 11 hours ago, Mike31mt said:Is that what I said?Man you guys are taking this HARDI said Maduro is not a legitimate president. Do you agree or disagree?HIs whole regime is not legitimate. The vice president of that illegitimate regime is now the president.Let's put this in terms you may understand. For the sake of argument, lets say Joe Biden was in power illegitimately, and our buddies from Canada decided to swoop in and arrest him. You would be totally fine with his vice president Kamala Harris being sworn in as president, and nothing else about the government in place changing, right?
January 8Jan 8 4 hours ago, DrPhilly said:Obviously he's after oil. Why MAGA can't figure that out is beyond me.As lomg as ot takes for him to loot and pillage the place and increase his families wealth. I said this as soon as we invaded. Even RetardMike knows it, hes just really excited that Trump is gonna make a fortune off it.
January 8Jan 8 4 hours ago, DrPhilly said:Obviously he's after oil. Why MAGA can't figure that out is beyond me.And it gets worse by the day because there doesn't seem to be a long term strategy. Oil companies want no part of this so it's basically for how long and how profitable is it to use a vast military fleet to pirate off oil via embargo. Oh, btw, Venezuela's state run oil machine has turned off the spigot.
January 8Jan 8 3 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:And it gets worse by the day because there doesn't seem to be a long term strategy. Oil companies want no part of this so it's basically for how long and how profitable is it to use a vast military fleet to pirate off oil via embargo. Oh, btw, Venezuela's state run oil machine has turned off the spigot.That in and of itself hurts China. China has a ridiculous appetite for Venezuelan oil.
January 8Jan 8 Just now, BBE said:That in and of itself hurts China. China has a ridiculous appetite for Venezuelan oil.Yeah that's another thing MAGA keeps repeating and getting wrong. This isn't a blow to Russia, it's really a blow to China. They want so badly to paint this as FIVE DEE!!! But the dust is settling and the end game is getting harder and harder grasp. Did he really kidnap a foreign a president for a couple poll points and hail mary attempt to get gas down for a few months before the mid terms? I mean, it tracks.
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