This should be entertaining

President Trump announced on Monday that he is sending Border Czar Tom Homan to Minnesota "tonight” amid the ongoing riots.

The riots, brought to you by....

Omar, whose community has stolen billions of dollars from the American people, has reportedly gone from being worth $51,000 in 2023 to as much as $30 million now.

Should be interesting to find out who is who, and who becomes expendable when the dust settles.

31 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

You can see the gun in his hand.

This nuclear waste science experiment actually thinks that's Pretti's hand carrying the gun away from the situation.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

This nuclear waste science experiment actually thinks that's Pretti's hand carrying the gun away from the situation.

I also still have the good fortune of breathing as well as the use of both hands. 😉

@Boogyman

"There is longer a…[position Trump made up a couple months ago]! Ridiculous!”

33 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

This nuclear waste science experiment actually thinks that's Pretti's hand carrying the gun away from the situation.

CBS News actually did a computer generated recreation of the shooting.

In training for the war on ICE

46 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

I also still have the good fortune of breathing as well as the use of both hands. 😉

14 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Do over?

2 hours ago, lynched1 said:

The riots, brought to you by....

Omar, whose community has stolen billions of dollars from the American people, has reportedly gone from being worth $51,000 in 2023 to as much as $30 million now.

Should be interesting to find out who is who, and who becomes expendable when the dust settles.

You’ve proven many times to be expendable. LL 👍

6 hours ago, Bill said:

The thing is the weapon (Sig P320) has been controversial due to a lot of uncommanded discharges because the thing is a heaping pile of crap.

A lot of the fanboys of the company have been saying about how there's a ton of other factors with the weapon, however some autist on youtube a few months back proved it can and will happen. Stems from it having a removable trigger group that doesn't have a trigger safety (the trigger group can be mounted in different frame/slide sizes, and was being heavily marketed for gov contracts to "keep the costs down" because instead of having to buy different size models of the same firearm system (glock17/19/26), you can just buy the trigger group and the different sized frames piecemeal and it's cheaper than having to buy a whole bunch of different weapons altogether).

They got a ton of gov contracts lately, but their QC has been ish for quite some time now, which is a shame because they used to be considered the M-B level of firearm.

Right. If Pretti's firearm was discharged then it happened after it was removed from his possession which you can tell from the videos as you can see the agent holding the weapon before you hear any shots. If that is what happened then it would of course cause further confusion and anxiety.

One thing I keep hearing from the MAGA influencers is that Pretti resisted arrest. Is anyone seeing that? I see him just getting tackled and not any resisting going on.

Yeah... i very rarely will ever put someone on ignore, even a MAGA moron, but if lynchedbot3000 has malfunctioned to the point that all he can do is ultraspam lies over and over then I'm taking the plunge.

1 minute ago, mayanh8 said:

Yeah... i very rarely will ever put someone on ignore, even a MAGA moron, but if lynchedbot3000 has malfunctioned to the point that all he can do is ultraspam lies over and over then I'm taking the plunge.

I'm close. Kz is the only poster I have on ignore but that might change.

For those confused about Pretti firing the gun…

First, compare clothing. Pretti is wearing a dark brown jacket. The agent in a tan jacket. Also, despite being in winter clothing, the agent appears to be quite a bit stockier than Pretti.

Pretti never fired or reached for his gun.

3 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

For those confused about Pretti firing the gun…

Don't think anyone is confused. You'd have to be retarded to be confused.

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Right. If Pretti's firearm was discharged then it happened after it was removed from his possession which you can tell from the videos as you can see the agent holding the weapon before you hear any shots. If that is what happened then it would of course cause further confusion and anxiety.

One thing I keep hearing from the MAGA influencers is that Pretti resisted arrest. Is anyone seeing that? I see him just getting tackled and not any resisting going on.

If anything, he was just dead weighting and pulling away.

Different states have different standards and sometimes even different levels. For example in Florida there’s a resisting w/o violence charge.

At that level on the Chicago use of force continuum (the most common one used by police departments), that would be classified as passive resistance, so the appropriate actions would be soft hand techniques (pressure points and joint locks), not, you know, getting spooked by a desk pop and shooting an unarmed man five or six times.

4 minutes ago, Bill said:

If anything, he was just dead weighting and pulling away.

Different states have different standards and sometimes even different levels. For example in Florida there’s a resisting w/o violence charge.

At that level on the Chicago use of force continuum (the most common one used by police departments), that would be classified as passive resistance, so the appropriate actions would be soft hand techniques (pressure points and joint locks), not, you know, getting spooked by a desk pop and shooting an unarmed man five or six times.

You mean getting tackled and knocked down is some form of passive resistance? Makes no sense. He never had a chance to resist in any form. He went to help the lady and then they jumped him, took him down, and then shot him. All in about three seconds. The natural reaction when being taken down is to try to break the fall a bit so you don't hit your face on the street. That action certainly can't be judged to be resisting. What else did he do? If this was a 30 second topic and he was holding off going down to his back/stomach then I can understand that thinking. That is not what happened here.

It's a great watch.

This whole episode is so clear cut that it’s mind boggling to even suggest otherwise. Even the part of resisting is a stretch IMO. The guy was trying to help the woman off the ground when he was pulled back and jumped by the ICE people. He’s on the ground and they are all over him. One guy is striking him on the side of the head with an object, while the others are holding him down. The handgun is taken from his holster and seconds later on shot is fired which precludes a barrage of shots from ICE.

Sure, you could say that he shouldn’t have put himself into that situation, even if he was trying to help the person who was getting jumped in the first place. That still doesn’t change the fact that he was executed by these clowns.

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

You mean getting tackled and knocked down is some form of passive resistance? Makes no sense. He never had a chance to resist in any form. He went to help the lady and then they jumped him, took him down, and then shot him. All in about three seconds. The natural reaction when being taken down is to try to break the fall a bit so you don't hit your face on the street. That action certainly can't be judged to be resisting. What else did he do? If this was a 30 second topic and he was holding off going down to his back/stomach then I can understand that thinking. That is not what happened here.

Examples of passive resistance are not getting out of a car when told to and instead asking for a reason, putting your hands up in a non combative stance while being told to get on the ground, and basically any form of not following instructions perfectly.

It's law enforcement's way of charging someone with resisting when they aren't actually actively resisting.

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Don't think anyone is confused. You'd have to be retarded to be confused.

LL - aka - Loony Lynched seems to be confused…

2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

It's law enforcement's way of charging someone with resisting when they aren't actually actively resisting.

Right but none of those types of things are in play in this situation. There simply is NO resistance passive or otherwise.

Just now, DrPhilly said:

Right but none of those types of things are in play in this situation. There simply is NO resistance passive or otherwise.

You need to get beyond what you see in the video and what any reasonable person would be doing. If one of those ICE agents is yelling for him to put his hand behind his back and he's down on all fours then LE will have no issues with charging him with passive resistance. The charge is basically used by every cop who desperately wants a reason to detain or arrest when they can't find a crime that's actually happened.