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There has been quite a bit of praise coming from the players about Mannion and the new offense he is installing. I know … normally I’d say, "what else do you expect them to say?” But this feels different. This feels genuine. I am guessing there will be some lumps early as players continue to get used to the new scheme but (obviously) hopeful that as the season progresses the offense is firing.

I don’t recall this much excitement from the players with any of our previous OCs (including Moore).

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The offense is going to struggle especially early and especially against this defense. I worry that if they keep their normal philosophy of no preseason play, they aren’t going to struggle early out the gate. The defense and coaching are going to have to get them through at least the first month of the season.

Was there a reason Stout left him on an island? I say Stout and not the OC because he's been the one constant in Lane's career

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7 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Was there a reason Stout left him on an island? I say Stout and not the OC because he's been the one constant in Lane's career

Maybe Lane was just that good that Stout didn't think he needed help (and he was right). But now that Lane is getting up there in age I'm sure it would be appreciated (and maybe allow him to stay healthy).

On 6/10/2026 at 5:24 AM, EazyEaglez said:

The offense is going to struggle especially early and especially against this defense. I worry that if they keep their normal philosophy of no preseason play, they aren’t going to struggle early out the gate. The defense and coaching are going to have to get them through at least the first month of the season.

I wonder if that'll change, at least a little this year. But yeah, the offense is very likely gonna struggle in the early season. They'll probably have to lean a little more on their "old" offense while slowly introducing the new.

I know it’s June. I know it’s a new offense. I know that we can’t overreact to what is happening on the practice field. But I do think it’s a little bit of a concern / something to monitor how this offense is looking so far. The offense has not looked great from what we’ve heard from practice.

17 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

I wonder if that'll change, at least a little this year. But yeah, the offense is very likely gonna struggle in the early season. They'll probably have to lean a little more on their "old" offense while slowly introducing the new.

It might be a mistake to go back to what worked in the past. Just rip that bandaid off and work through the struggle.

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21 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I know it’s June. I know it’s a new offense. I know that we can’t overreact to what is happening on the practice field. But I do think it’s a little bit of a concern / something to monitor how this offense is looking so far. The offense has not looked great from what we’ve heard from practice.

I don't know why that should come as a surprise. The defense is now in year 3 under Fangio and is coming off consecutive seasons as a top 5 unit. The offense not only struggled for most of last year and is not only starting its first year under a new OC but also installing a completely different scheme (IWO it is a work in progress). It took the defense a while to settle in after Fangio was hired - they weren't a top unit initially. Gotta give them time to learn the scheme and get comfortable within in. I don't expect we'll see anything close to a polished product for at least a couple of months (IF they can get there ... a lot of that will depend on the OL staying healthy and playing at a high level and also how well Hurts takes to the doing some different things).

7 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

It might be a mistake to go back to what worked in the past. Just rip that bandaid off and work through the struggle.

It's never a mistake to go back to what works. The mistake is continuing forward with something that isn't working. Last year was a good example of the latter.

I'm sure right now the offense is working hard to learn the new things being added. Clearly that will take time. I am not convinced, however, that at the end of the day this won't remain the Jalen Hurts offense we've seen the last few years, but with some new wrinkles. I personally don't have a problem with that. Last year we added the shovel pass and that was a positive, but it didn't offset the negative effect of Jalen not running like he did while on his rookie contract. That was a key element in "what worked in the past" that was gone and not replaced with something else that worked.

I predict that the biggest change will just be in the routes the receivers run. We'll probably see an increase in YAC and a decrease in average air yards per pass.

I like what Lane said, but, we as fans need to remain patient with the Offense. It could take 4 - 5 games to find some kind of groove. Might have to win some games 17 - 13.

On 6/11/2026 at 9:02 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I know it’s June. I know it’s a new offense. I know that we can’t overreact to what is happening on the practice field. But I do think it’s a little bit of a concern / something to monitor how this offense is looking so far. The offense has not looked great from what we’ve heard from practice.

Hurts probably suffered a non contact concussion trying to learn the offense.

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Eagles spring practice lessons: Five things we learned about Sean Mannion, the Eagles offense during mandatory minicamp

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Here are five things we learned about the Eagles’ new-look offense over the course of four open practices stretched across three weeks:

1. Sean Mannion has completely remodeled the offensive scheme, and that’s going to take time

It shouldn’t come as much of a surprise to hear that the Eagles defense was consistently the more successful unit during each practice, but it’s still a necessary note in reflection of the four open sessions. The Eagles first-team secondary looked as advertised against a reworked and undermanned wide receiving corps and more often than not Jalen Hurts, Andy Dalton, and Tanner McKee were either targeting running backs or tight ends on underneath routes or holding onto the ball for extended periods without finding someone downfield.

But even setting aside the imperative caveat that most defenses are ahead of their offensive counterparts at this point in the offseason, it’s important to remember just how wide the gulf is between the Eagles offense and defense in terms of both a personnel and schematic continuity standpoint this summer. For as significant a change as the Eagles defense had to go through in 2024 when Vic Fangio took over, this Eagles offense has had an even bigger task with several new faces and an offensive system that shares almost no resemblance to the one the group ran last year.

In fact, those who have seen it up close for the duration of the spring believe it couldn’t look any more different than last year’s offense.

And while the "art” of statkeeping during practices doesn’t ruffle my feathers as much as some, what you glean from that information should be far from conclusive. I mentioned earlier that most of Hurts’ completions came on either checkdowns to the running backs or tight ends or hitting receivers on shallow crossing routes, and it’s entirely plausible to believe Sean Mannion spent this spring working on the foundational passing concepts that may not set off fireworks, but will keep the offense on schedule if everyone is in sync on the timing and details of the plays. That’s what spring practices are for, laying the foundation rather than filing up a statsheet.

All this to say, we are judging a majorly incomplete picture of the Eagles offense, going against a defensive group that’s had years to build a strong foundation with one of the best defensive coaches in charge of a talented nucleus that have now spent years playing important football together.

2. Some clarity on Mannion’s scheme

Where exactly Mannion falls on the spectrum of the offenses authored by products of the Kyle Shanahan-Sean McVay coaching tree has been hard to pin down. There are a handful of different flavors of these systems by now, but Dontayvion Wicks’ answer to how many questions he’s fielding from his teammates about his time playing for Matt LaFleur shows it’s probably not as closely aligned to the Green Bay Packers as Mannion’s two years on staff there might suggest.

"I’m asking questions myself, because everything ain’t set,” Wicks said. "We’re all still learning the offense and the new ways of doing things here in Philly. So, I get some questions regarding what I know, but we’re all still learning.”

What we do know is the Eagles plan to have Hurts under center much more than they have in years prior. The majority of the offensive snaps came out of under-center formations during the spring and the coaching staff has talked about the transition from an inside-zone heavy run scheme that allowed Hurts to be plus-one in the run game to a system centered around wide zone and under-center play-action passes off of those runs that will present the same look to the defense.

But it’s best to assume there will be some individuality to the scheme Mannion is authoring. The stories of his time preparing to become a coach during his playing career should be instructive, he didn’t just start envisioning what his call sheet would look like when he started working for LaFleur.

"Sean had his own playbook while he was a backup quarterback,” said Eagles offensive line coach Chris Kuper, who overlapped as a coach with Mannion as a player on the Minnesota Vikings. "He was just building it as a player. … He had a true binder full of plays that he was deciding whether his offense was going to [include] or not, and he’s evolved from there.”

3. The most encouraging signs happened at the podium, not the field

Taking a more long-term view, one of the most encouraging aspects of the last month has been just how receptive key members of the Eagles offensive nucleus have been to the wholesale changes Mannion has brought.

Hurts, who once opined that Kellen Moore’s offense was "95% new” for the quarterback, has been consistently enthusiastic about what Mannion has installed despite it requiring the 27-year-old to change the way he operates to a significant degree.

"I thought it was a really good spring,” Hurts said Wednesday. "To be able to onboard another new system, put it all together. Lay a foundation. I’m encouraged by that. I’m encouraged by what we were able to put in.”

A day earlier, Eagles right tackle Lane Johnson said the new system will be much friendlier to offensive linemen and more effective at keeping defenses from keying in on what they’re doing pre-snap. So advantageous, in fact, Johnson said he’s been watching schemes with similar roots from afar for years with envy.

"I’ve watched this system, the [Gary] Kubiak-Shanahan styles of offense from afar, and have also envied and wanted to be a part of it. Here I am after all these years. Not saying we’re going to be better, there’s a lot to learn. But I think we have the ability to be more than we were last year, be a lot more than what we were in the run game. I think it’s going to open up the pass game, too.”

That level of buy-in is important, especially considering how frustrated the key members of the offense grew by the midway point of last season as things grew stagnant and, as Johnson put it the last time he spoke to the media back in October: "Predictable.”

Another stark contrast this spring? Saquon Barkley and Cam Jurgens pointing out the benefits of under-center running angles compared to the shotgun runs the Eagles majored in during previous seasons. Take it from someone who has covered the two for the last few years and asked/heard questions about the differences; Barkley and Jurgens haven’t always felt strongly about the difference.

There are plenty of questions left to answer to determine whether Mannion will be as good as a first-time offensive coordinator as the Eagles believe he can be. He’ll have to hit the ground running as a play-caller, author efficient opening series and plenty more. But what’s become clear this spring is important for a coach commanding a room and an offense for the first time in a young career: He’s done an effective job communicating his vision for this offense and has gotten buy-in from the players he needs it from.

"His ability to lead, lead men and lead coaches, he hasn’t been doing this a long time, but he’s an organized person, he knows what he wants, and he’s very clear and concise,” Kuper said. "The job description is very black-and-white, which is what we all want. It’s what the players want, so that we can present them with something that is black-and-white.”

4. Makai Lemon and Eli Stowers both got off to slow starts

For as encouraging as the early returns on the system may have been, the spring wasn’t kind to the Eagles’ pair of rookies hoping to thrive in it.

Makai Lemon suffered a hamstring injury early in OTAs and watched from the sidelines during the entirety of mandatory minicamp. Stowers participated in practice, but was seldom used during team drills and was mostly invisible as a result.

It’s too early to overreact with either player, but each of them already had the uphill battle of acclimating to the NFL in a truncated offseason dominated by draft preparation. And in Stowers’ case, hitting the ground running (and perhaps healthier) in training camp will be vital to carving out a meaningful role at all during his rookie season.

5. The early indications are that Cam Jurgens and Landon Dickerson have benefitted from an offseason to recover

After the way last season ended for Cam Jurgens, Landon Dickerson, and Lane Johnson, perhaps the biggest needle-mover from the spring was the levity that has seemingly washed over each of the starting offensive linemen.

Jurgens and Dickerson both traveled to Columbia during the offseason to get stem-cell therapy treatment, Jurgens for a chronically injured back and Dickerson for the litany of ankle and knee injuries he’s suffered during his career. Johnson didn’t take the trip, but did seriously consider retirement early in the offseason and finishing the year with a Lisfranc foot injury that he wasn’t able to play through despite a persistent effort to in the season’s final weeks.

Jurgens said he’s noticed a significant improvement in how he feels compared to last offseason when he spent most of his time rehabbing, and Dickerson seemed to be moving well without any braces or sleeves on his legs during mandatory minicamp.

We’ll see how the group looks when the pads come on in training camp, but a marked health improvement for the trio in 2026 would go a long way toward laying the foundation for the Eagles as a team hoping to get the most out of Barkley and build a passing game off of play-action fakes.

https://allphly.com/eagles-sean-mannion-minicamp-otas-observations-offense/

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