10 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

But you’re saying to impeach him, and it’s because he has an opinion on the subject of autism and he wants it investigated.

i question the opinion of a guy who argued he's brain damaged and based his opinions and policies on some of the most whacked out BS there is.

so yes, in closing, i think misleading the american public based on reytarded BS is impeachable.

1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i question the opinion of a guy who argued he's brain damaged and based his opinions and policies on some of the most whacked out BS there is.

so yes, in closing, i think misleading the american public based on reytarded BS is impeachable.

What has he misled people on?

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

What has he misled people on?

12 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

But you’re saying to impeach him, and it’s because he has an opinion on the subject of autism and he wants it investigated.

It has been. Exhaustively. If the head of National Parks "has an opinion on the subject of" chupacabras I'd also think he was not qualified for his job.

4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

It has been. Exhaustively. If the head of National Parks "has an opinion on the subject of" chupacabras I'd also think he was not qualified for his job.

Look, he's just asking questions!

1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

So what do you think caused the spike in 1991? Was it another HHS secretary spreading disinformation?

https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/1989-1991-measles-epidemic-almost-stopped-basketball-tournament/

In 1989, the Committee of Infectious Disease of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommended a second dose of the MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) vaccine be given to children entering middle school (around 11 or 12 years of age). Because many outbreaks of measles were being observed in colleges and universities at the time, the recommendation expanded to include students at those institutions. This recommendation did not arrive in time for the 1989 college basketball playoffs. That spring, several colleges and universities had to hold games in empty arenas or prohibit students exposed to measles from entering sporting venues.

Siena and the University of Hartford went into a quarantine over measles cases at their respective campuses in February 1989. However, Hartford was to host the North Atlantic Conference Tournament at that time, so the only options were to cancel the tournament or play without fans. The worry was measles would spread through the spectators and then be carried back to the fans’ respective campuses. The disruptions to the basketball games lasted well into March as more cases were identified, resetting the 21-day clock on the quarantine period.

Siena would win the conference title with "no crowd to go wild” when a last-second basket clinched the championship.

1989 was a record year for measles in the United States. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported 17,840 cases, "a 423% increase [in 1989] over the 3411 cases reported for 1988.” This was the largest number since 1978, and the 41 deaths in US residents associated with measles were the highest since 1971. On average, there is one death from measles for each 1,000 cases in the United States. Reasons for the epidemic that lasted from 1989 to 1991 include the one-shot recommendation, and budget cuts to childhood vaccination programs in the United States. Those cuts left many children without access to vaccination, something the United States Congress reversed with the creation of the Vaccines for Children program in 1993.

Unfortunately, the Vaccines for Children program was created too late for many children. Then there was the matter of vaccine hesitancy among parents... In 1991, nine children in Philadelphia died from measles. The courts had to get involved to immunize children whose parents would not immunize on religious grounds:

Soon after the United States and other developed nations adopted the two-dose recommendation, other nations followed suit. This led to a dramatic reduction in cases and deaths from measles worldwide. Today, most deaths from measles are reported in developing African and Asian nations, with many of those deaths associated with comorbidities like malnutrition or poor healthcare infrastructure.

4 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/1989-1991-measles-epidemic-almost-stopped-basketball-tournament/

Illegals crossing the border did it

I think we all owe @Seventy_Yard_FG an apology

Funny how Massie brought the articles of impeachment yet Dems are being blamed for it.

1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

We don’t really know what caused the spike in measles cases recently or before but you have people calling for an impeachment of a guy over the issue?

We do know though. This really isn't that complex. Measles is extremely contagious. It has a Ro value somewhere between 12-18. That means within a community that is not vaccinated and precautions are not taken, a single infected person on average is likely to infect 12-18 other people. We also have a vaccine for Measles and it is extremely effective. The spike in measles cases is being caused by unvaccinated people becoming infected, and then spreading it to other unvaccinated people. That's it. That's the reason. And this is dangerous when it comes to babies, because babies typically don't receive their first MMR vaccine until they are 1 year old. So they can't be vaccinated. Babies rely on all the people around them being vaccinated so as to essentially create a shield around them.

31 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

What has he misled people on?

Ok that's easy. Claiming that pregnant women taking Tylenol causes autism.

9 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

We do know though. This really isn't that complex. Measles is extremely contagious. It has a Ro value somewhere between 12-18. That means within a community that is not vaccinated and precautions are not taken, a single infected person on average is likely to infect 12-18 other people. We also have a vaccine for Measles and it is extremely effective. The spike in measles cases is being caused by unvaccinated people becoming infected, and then spreading it to other unvaccinated people. That's it. That's the reason. And this is dangerous when it comes to babies, because babies typically don't receive their first MMR vaccine until they are 1 year old. So they can't be vaccinated. Babies rely on all the people around them being vaccinated so as to essentially create a shield around them.

so, if the issue is unvaccinated people, how can we go after the head of the HHS for pushing anti-vax BS?

49 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

But you’re saying to impeach him, and it’s because he has an opinion on the subject of autism and he wants it investigated.

as DEagle already said, autism has been studied extensively. And the thing that people like RFK and his followers fail to realize (or maybe they do realize it and they are knowingly peddling BS) is that when they make the claim that the rates of autism have increased by X amount over the last couple decades, is that the primary driver of that increase is that the definition of autism has been broadened over time. The prevalence of children with severe symptoms of autism has stayed relatively flat. But we've broadened the spectrum of what counts as having an autism diagnosis, so more children on the milder end of the spectrum are now being diagnosed with autism, whereas 20-30 years ago, those same kids would not have been diagnosed with autism.

1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said:

as DEagle already said, autism has been studied extensively. And the thing that people like RFK and his followers fail to realize (or maybe they do realize it and they are knowingly peddling BS) is that when they make the claim that the rates of autism have increased by X amount over the last couple decades, is that the primary driver of that increase is that the definition of autism has been broadened over time. The prevalence of children with severe symptoms of autism has stayed relatively flat. But we've broadened the spectrum of what counts as having an autism diagnosis, so more children on the milder end of the spectrum are now being diagnosed with autism, whereas 20-30 years ago, those same kids would not have been diagnosed with autism.

35 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

It has been. Exhaustively. If the head of National Parks "has an opinion on the subject of" chupacabras I'd also think he was not qualified for his job.

Except…

Is that a Treason, Bribery, or High Crime or Misdemeanor?

@lynched1 has met his match with this one.

29 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Ok that's easy. Claiming that pregnant women taking Tylenol causes autism.

That’s not the claim.

24 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

so, if the issue is unvaccinated people, how can we go after the head of the HHS for pushing anti-vax BS?

Unfortunately probably not much that can be done there. The president has appointed a person for a role for which he isn't competent to hold. Trump would have to fire him, but that won't happen cause Trump likes him and isn't facing political pressure to fire him.

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

That’s not the claim.

The evidence is very suggestive that you are mentally retarded. That's the claim.

1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

That’s not the claim.

FFS stop blindly relying on AI. How about we just uses RFK's own words, shall we?

"Anybody who takes the stuff during pregnancy unless they have to is, is irresponsible. It is not proof. We're doing the studies to make the proof."

"There are two studies that show children who are circumcised early have double the rate of autism," Kennedy said Oct. 9 at President Donald Trump’s Cabinet meeting. "It’s highly likely because they’re given Tylenol."

"It’s not dispositive that it causes autism," Kennedy said. "It’s so suggestive that anybody who takes the stuff during pregnancy is irresponsible."

16 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

That’s not the claim.

It LITERALLY is. You continue to highlight the wrong parts for your personal confirmation bias

Hell, additional paragraphs confirm that he promotes that taking Tylenol puts you at risk for autisim.

3 minutes ago, paco said:

It LITERALLY is. You continue to highlight the wrong parts for your personal confirmation bias

did you read the yellow highlighted parts?

6 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

FFS stop blindly relying on AI. How about we just uses RFK's own words, shall we?

"Anybody who takes the stuff during pregnancy unless they have to is, is irresponsible. It is not proof. We're doing the studies to make the proof."

"There are two studies that show children who are circumcised early have double the rate of autism," Kennedy said Oct. 9 at President Donald Trump’s Cabinet meeting. "It’s highly likely because they’re given Tylenol."

"It’s not dispositive that it causes autism," Kennedy said. "It’s so suggestive that anybody who takes the stuff during pregnancy is irresponsible."

I don’t "blindly” rely on it. When I have questions I ask it for sources.

Can you provide a link for what you say are "RFK’s own words”?

1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

did you read the yellow highlighted parts?

Yeah. Did you read the white parts? Or purposely ignore them because it doesn't support you stating "That’s not the claim" in regards to RFK saying Tylenol can cause autism.

Clown

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I don’t "blindly” rely on it. When I have questions I ask it for sources.

Can you provide a link for what you say are "RFK’s own words”?

If only there was some sort of Artificial Intelligence, or Super Intelligence as many call it, that you could run those quotes through to figure out if they are real or not.