Jeffery WR1, Jackson WR2 on depth chart this week

[Hawkeye]

Jeffery and Jackson are listed as starters while Ward is WR3. 

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/depth-chart

So does that mean both are back and will go Sunday against the Steelers? None of the Eagles reporter's accounts I follow have anything (and it sorta seems like a big deal).  It also has Mailata at LT, Herbig at LG and Pryor at RG so it appears to be current. 

[nipples]

I honestly don’t even want to see those guys on the field. They aren’t winning this game either way, I’d rather see Hightower and Fulgham get another opportunity to show why they’ve got. 

[manz2821]

Nice if true. Hopefully they can both finish the game as well. I think it would be the first time since the season opener last year... let's see if it sparks the passing game. I have trepid expectations but def curious.

[nipples]

2 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

Nice if true. Hopefully they can both finish the game as well. I think it would be the first time since the season opener last year... let's see if it sparks the passing game. I have trepid expectations but def curious.

Jackson will play one series then come back out. He’s cooked. 

[manz2821]

17 minutes ago, nipples said:

Jackson will play one series then come back out. He’s cooked. 

I know.  Jeffery is too.  But I atleast want to see if the offence is better with them or not.  They are def not going to be there next season.

[NOTW]

Yeah Jackson we know is going to be limited to make him last the season which I think is smart.  Just get the ball in his hands in spots if he needs to rest.  

Jeffrey needs to be eased in as well.  Unless he's fully recovered and ready to go, but you don't want to risk further injury by trying to do too much.

[Green_Guinness]

Well, they are currently in 1st place in the rubbish NFC Least so their goal will be to win the division and make the playoffs, which means they will start vets like Alshon and DJax because it gives them the best chance to win the game.  It's a tough situation because this is what they're supposed to do.....try to win games and make the playoffs.  However, most of us here are of the opinion that this team just isn't good enough to make a playoff run, so it could be another season of being the tallest midget where we win a putrid division and end up with a latter half of the round draft picks which makes it a bit harder to reload with quality young talent that we desperately need.  

Also consider that both Alshon and DJax most likely won't be here next season.  So now you're taking away snaps from WRs that will be here next season, which slows their development for the future.  So, the choices are to either focus on the present and try to win this trash division or keep an eye to the future and see what they may or may not have in the young WRs.  Even if you have both Alshon and DJax on snap counts you still have to sit 2 of Hightower, Watkins or Fulgham for the game.  If they dress 5 WRs for a game then you'd have Alshon, DJax, Reagor (when back), Ward and one of the 3 youngins for the 5th spot.  For now 2 of them can dress and play, but once Reagor comes back and if Alshon and DJax both can stay fit to play then that's the situation they'll be in.  

You could argue Wentz needs vet WRs to help stabilize his erratic play so far, but at some point he's going to have to learn to play with these young WRs.  Of course it would be easier to do behind a healthy OL instead of a mostly backup and MASH unit OL.  IMO, if they continue to do what they did vs SF where they used pre-snap motion, moved the pocket and tailored the O more to Wentz's strengths then even with the young WRs I think Wentz will be OK and play better.  However, I'm sure their focus is on winning the division and as long as Alshon and DJax can play then they will play them.

 

[Ace Nova]

 

[ManchesterEagle]

53 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

Jeffery and Jackson are listed as starters while Ward is WR3. 

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/depth-chart

So does that mean both are back and will go Sunday against the Steelers? None of the Eagles reporter's accounts I follow have anything (and it sorta seems like a big deal).  It also has Mailata at LT, Herbig at LG and Pryor at RG so it appears to be current. 

From my experience these depth charts take account of IR but not week to week injuries.

So in other words it is not indicative of Jeffery and Jackson being ready, but just simply that both are not on IR and are listed as starters.

In reality even if one or both are ready, they will have a snap count anyways. 

[ManchesterEagle]

20 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Yeah Jackson we know is going to be limited to make him last the season which I think is smart.  Just get the ball in his hands in spots if he needs to rest.  

Jeffrey needs to be eased in as well.  Unless he's fully recovered and ready to go, but you don't want to risk further injury by trying to do too much.

 

20 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

Well, they are currently in 1st place in the rubbish NFC Least so their goal will be to win the division and make the playoffs, which means they will start vets like Alshon and DJax because it gives them the best chance to win the game.  It's a tough situation because this is what they're supposed to do.....try to win games and make the playoffs.  However, most of us here are of the opinion that this team just isn't good enough to make a playoff run, so it could be another season of being the tallest midget where we win a putrid division and end up with a latter half of the round draft picks which makes it a bit harder to reload with quality young talent that we desperately need.  

Also consider that both Alshon and DJax most likely won't be here next season.  So now you're taking away snaps from WRs that will be here next season, which slows their development for the future.  So, the choices are to either focus on the present and try to win this trash division or keep an eye to the future and see what they may or may not have in the young WRs.  Even if you have both Alshon and DJax on snap counts you still have to sit 2 of Hightower, Watkins or Fulgham for the game.  If they dress 5 WRs for a game then you'd have Alshon, DJax, Reagor (when back), Ward and one of the 3 youngins for the 5th spot.  For now 2 of them can dress and play, but once Reagor comes back and if Alshon and DJax both can stay fit to play then that's the situation they'll be in.  

You could argue Wentz needs vet WRs to help stabilize his erratic play so far, but at some point he's going to have to learn to play with these young WRs.  Of course it would be easier to do behind a healthy OL instead of a mostly backup and MASH unit OL.  IMO, if they continue to do what they did vs SF where they used pre-snap motion, moved the pocket and tailored the O more to Wentz's strengths then even with the young WRs I think Wentz will be OK and play better.  However, I'm sure their focus is on winning the division and as long as Alshon and DJax can play then they will play them.

 

If Jackson and/or Jeffery do play they will both be on snap counts. We will have 5 WRs active, so Hightower and Fulgham will both play and get playing time.

In terms of Wentz developing chemistry - the plan is not to have Hightower or Fulgham starting either next year. Neither are likely to develop into legitimate starting receivers. He needs time with Reagor sure, but if either Hightower or Fulgham develop into reliable WR4s or 5s they will have been good pick ups.

[NOTW]

1 minute ago, ManchesterEagle said:

 

If Jackson and/or Jeffery do play they will both be on snap counts. We will have 5 WRs active, so Hightower and Fulgham will both play and get playing time.

In terms of Wentz developing chemistry - the plan is not to have Hightower or Fulgham starting either next year. Neither are likely to develop into legitimate starting receivers. He needs time with Reagor sure, but if either Hightower or Fulgham develop into reliable WR4s or 5s they will have been good pick ups.

It makes sense in a weak division to push to win the division and see what can happen in the playoffs.  They need to adjust to the backups replacing injured players and some of these guys will be back at some point (Reagor, Goedert, etc).  They have a tough stretch in 2 spots:  the next 2 games with the Steelers and Ravens, then later in the year the Seahawks, Packers and Saints who always give us a tough game.  Even Cleveland is a solid team now.  The Eagles have a lot of work to clean up mistakes, get Wentz on track because he's been awful until this past Sunday when he was just ok which was an improvement and enough to win.  A big factor will be confidence and capable receivers can help with that.

The young receivers are getting opportunities right now and I'm sure throughout the season there will be more.  In 2021 I expect Jeffrey, Jackson and JJAW to be gone.  So you're looking at Reagor, Ward as your locks to make the team then young guys in Hightower, Watkins, Burnett, Fulgham plus whoever else they bring in to compete.  So it's feasible that a guy like Hightower could be relied on to contribute a bit more next year if he develops well this season, plus hopefully there will be a normal camp and preseason next year for everyone to prepare.

[eagle45]

I'm pretty sure they gave up on that depth chart a long time ago.

[NOTW]

Doug said 20 minutes ago that Jeffrey and Jackson are practicing and they don't know yet if they'll even play this Sunday until they see how the week goes.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtSm-H16bz0

 

 

[EazyEaglez]

I want to see how it goes. It’s pretty difficult at this point to count on any of them (including Ertz these days) for much production. 

[Cochis_Calhoun]

46 minutes ago, NOTW said:

It makes sense in a weak division to push to win the division and see what can happen in the playoffs.  They need to adjust to the backups replacing injured players and some of these guys will be back at some point (Reagor, Goedert, etc).  They have a tough stretch in 2 spots:  the next 2 games with the Steelers and Ravens, then later in the year the Seahawks, Packers and Saints who always give us a tough game.  Even Cleveland is a solid team now.  The Eagles have a lot of work to clean up mistakes, get Wentz on track because he's been awful until this past Sunday when he was just ok which was an improvement and enough to win.  A big factor will be confidence and capable receivers can help with that.

The young receivers are getting opportunities right now and I'm sure throughout the season there will be more.  In 2021 I expect Jeffrey, Jackson and JJAW to be gone.  So you're looking at Reagor, Ward as your locks to make the team then young guys in Hightower, Watkins, Burnett, Fulgham plus whoever else they bring in to compete.  So it's feasible that a guy like Hightower could be relied on to contribute a bit more next year if he develops well this season, plus hopefully there will be a normal camp and preseason next year for everyone to prepare.

The combined record of our remaining opponents is a pretty middling 23-16, unfortunately the combined record of our 7 remaining out of division opponents is pretty frightening 21-6, the winner of our division really will be a turd rolled in glitter, but I maintain the Cowgirls have waaaaay more than our defense can handle offensively and they'll be the glittery turd not us.

[uncphillyfan]

2 hours ago, Hawkeye said:

Jeffery and Jackson are listed as starters while Ward is WR3. 

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/depth-chart

So does that mean both are back and will go Sunday against the Steelers? None of the Eagles reporter's accounts I follow have anything (and it sorta seems like a big deal).  It also has Mailata at LT, Herbig at LG and Pryor at RG so it appears to be current. 

It is not updated.  It still shows Jalen Mills as SS

[Talonblood]

NEITHER deserve it. Both will probably be hurt before halftime, so we'll still see our future receivers get some work.

[PoconoDon]

Whatever.

So long as next year it reads Chase WR1 and Reagor WR2, I'll be happy with the receiver depth chart.

[Hawkeye]

36 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I'm pretty sure they gave up on that depth chart a long time ago.

Why do you say that?  All the other positions are correct.  

[Hawkeye]

5 minutes ago, uncphillyfan said:

It is not updated.  It still shows Jalen Mills as SS

Schwartz said yesterday he'll play some corner but he's still at safety. 

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-jalen-mills-jim-schwartz-avonte-maddox-corner-safety-20201006.html

[UK_EaglesFan89]

They may show that way on the depth chart. I guess you'd expect that really. But doesn't mean that's what will happen come Sunday. And to be honest if the Eagles do game plan to heavily involve those 2 then they are idiots and frankly will get what they deserve. 

[Hawkeye]

9 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

They may show that way on the depth chart. I guess you'd expect that really. But doesn't mean that's what will happen come Sunday. And to be honest if the Eagles do game plan to heavily involve those 2 then they are idiots and frankly will get what they deserve. 

We won't know until Sunday, correct, but this is the first time the depth chart has had Jeffery, Jackson, Wentz, Ertz and Sanders in the lineup together all year. So it might not mean everything, but it probably doesn't mean nothing.

[Mike030270]

Gonna need all the help they can get

My problem only comes if they keep them in even if they suck

Alshon hasn't played in a long time and when he did he was very slow

[time2rock]

5 hours ago, Hawkeye said:

Jeffery and Jackson are listed as starters while Ward is WR3. 

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/depth-chart

So does that mean both are back and will go Sunday against the Steelers? None of the Eagles reporter's accounts I follow have anything (and it sorta seems like a big deal).  It also has Mailata at LT, Herbig at LG and Pryor at RG so it appears to be current. 

Some may argue it hasn’t been updated, but I do see Mailata, Herbig, and Pryor with the 1s.  However, the DC doesn’t appear completely revised ... I see Edwards and Maddox still listed with the 1s.  Neither are expected to play.  

[ManchesterEagle]

3 hours ago, NOTW said:

It makes sense in a weak division to push to win the division and see what can happen in the playoffs.  They need to adjust to the backups replacing injured players and some of these guys will be back at some point (Reagor, Goedert, etc).  They have a tough stretch in 2 spots:  the next 2 games with the Steelers and Ravens, then later in the year the Seahawks, Packers and Saints who always give us a tough game.  Even Cleveland is a solid team now.  The Eagles have a lot of work to clean up mistakes, get Wentz on track because he's been awful until this past Sunday when he was just ok which was an improvement and enough to win.  A big factor will be confidence and capable receivers can help with that.

The young receivers are getting opportunities right now and I'm sure throughout the season there will be more.  In 2021 I expect Jeffrey, Jackson and JJAW to be gone.  So you're looking at Reagor, Ward as your locks to make the team then young guys in Hightower, Watkins, Burnett, Fulgham plus whoever else they bring in to compete.  So it's feasible that a guy like Hightower could be relied on to contribute a bit more next year if he develops well this season, plus hopefully there will be a normal camp and preseason next year for everyone to prepare.

Yeah I guess the point I'm trying to make is that a lot of people (not you NOTW) are talking about Wentz getting more time with his receivers of the future in Hightower, Fulgham etc, when in fact it's very unlikely they will be more than depth pieces. I know it was a strong draft for WR, but a lot of people are assuming that Hightower and/or Watkins will be our WRs of the future, whereas there's a strong chance of that not happening. If you go back and look at all the wide receivers drafted in the 4th or later, there is maybe 2-3 who are legitimate starting WRs. So I don't really see the point in putting them out there for the sake of it. If they earn playing time or they need to play through injury then fair enough.

I actually think there is a small chance that Jeffery is still here next year. He would have to come back, play well and stay healthy and would also need to agree to a contract restructure, so it is unlikely.

But unless Hightower etc develop into legitimate starting receivers this year, then we are likely going to have to either keep or sign a veteran for 2021. JJAW was meant to be Alshon's replacement, but he looks like a genuine bust at the moment.