2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Wait wait wait. No I'm sorry. You can't blame Doug when his QB sucks so bad. What on earth is he meant to do? What on earth is this offense meant to do when the QB is so bad?

Wentz wasn’t bad in Reichs offense, it’s the play calling and the offense in general that’s the problem. This offense is crap and very predictable...because of Doug.

Cant watch these anymore with Wentz at QB. Redzone it is

Just now, Eagleblood52 said:

Wentz wasn’t bad in Reichs offense, it’s the play calling and the offense in general that’s the problem. This offense is crap and very predictable...because of Doug.

That's one year. Two if you want to count his rookie year where he was up and down, had struggles but it was his rookie year.

1 minute ago, Tx_eaglesfan said:

Need to rebuild the O-line, I have no idea if Wentz will improve, too many dropped passes, too many mistakes...painful to watch this team 

Dropped passes? He had ONE dropped pass today. The rest of the game was bad throws, bad decisions and him holding the ball forever. 

Just now, nipples said:

This loss was 90% on Wentz. As have many of the losses been this year. If you can’t acknowledge that you’re not an Eagles fan, you’re a Carson Wentz fan. 

Yea he damn near outscored himself. Idk what the hell youre trying to say. 

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah nothing is his fault. He’s perfect. 🙄

Never said that but ok. 

Doug and Carson can both go. Why are they throwing screens to Ward? Wouldn’t you think it would make more sense to throw them to Reagor?

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

No OK to say he has no blame is going too far I'll accept that. But the biggest issue with this team is the QB not Doug. Doug is an issue no doubt but Wentz is the biggest issue. 

B it that’s where the issue is. Wentz still hasn’t been benched, despite many many games where a benching has been deserving, because Doug refuses to do it.  That is my issue with Doug. The fact that he refuses to bench Carson at this point. 

1 minute ago, Eagleblood52 said:

Wentz wasn’t bad in Reichs offense, it’s the play calling and the offense in general that’s the problem. This offense is crap and very predictable...because of Doug.

How is it Doug’s fault? He has 100 offensive coordinators and this was the best they could come up with? Those people were forced on him to boot. 

1 minute ago, Eagleblood52 said:

Wentz wasn’t bad in Reichs offense, it’s the play calling and the offense in general that’s the problem. This offense is crap and very predictable...because of Doug.

Wentz has been holding the ball like a champ and continues to make rookie mistakes. I disagree.

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That's one year. Two if you want to count his rookie year where he was up and down, had struggles but it was his rookie year.

Those are the only years he’s had a good coach. Every other year it’s been Doug and it’s been regression every year. Dunno how you can’t see that pattern. 

the biggest takeaway is the lack of accountability. because it says everything about where a team/organisation is at. what are you playing for? what do you value? 

it's clear that they're playing favourites and that carson is the anointed one regardless of what he does. and that mentality is toxic and pretty much will devour a locker room. how can you follow and give your all when this is the case?

and this reflects on pederson because that's his call and ultimately on lurie because that's his team.

and right now, the eagles are a dysfunctional organization at odds with reality. this isn't 2017, that carson is long gone. it's not coming back despite a good throw here and there. 

The Defense held Baker and company to 13 points.  This was a winnable game.  Sadly the (Pick 6/Safety) did us in.   Yes it was bad weather but you mistakes can't give the other team 9 points.   Another streak goes down.  Browns beat the Eagles for the first time in 26 years and the 1st time in Cleveland in 32 years.   And yes as sad as it is with this record.  We are still in first place.   

It’s pointless arguing about whether our issues are with Doug or wentz. They simply don’t work together as a tandem. We need rid of both of them at this point. 

2 minutes ago, nipples said:

B it that’s where the issue is. Wentz still hasn’t been benched, despite many many games where a benching has been deserving, because Doug refuses to do it.  That is my issue with Doug. The fact that he refuses to bench Carson at this point. 

Yeah I mean that in itself is also a big issue. Doug needs to grow a pair and needs to make the very obvious decision. 

There's really no sense trying to defend anybody this week. I just keep hoping for a good game to take place. I keep being disappointed. 

5 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

Merrill Reese  "Russell Wilson and the Seahawks will be coming to town next week. Don't let your children watch that!"  Coming from an Eagles employee that's as direct and honest as it gets.

1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said:

Yea he damn near outscored himself. Idk what the hell youre trying to say. 

Never said that but ok. 

I never blamed everything on Wentz either, but you’re acting like this stuff is new. Wentz has been throwing off his back foot and off centered for years. His mechanics have always been trash. He’s just not getting away with it anymore. He’s always had fumble issues. He’s always taken chances with the football. He just got away with most of that stuff in the past, but it also cost him injuries in the past too. 

So contract wise when can we get rid of Wentz provided we do not find a trade partner for him. Has been his backer but I'm officially done with him.

2 minutes ago, nipples said:

Dropped passes? He had ONE dropped pass today. The rest of the game was bad throws, bad decisions and him holding the ball forever. 

Even some of the catches that are made the ball is way higher than it needs to be, if our yards after catch numbers aren't in the bottom 5 of the league I'd be amazed.

1 minute ago, wtfcares said:

Those are the only years he’s had a good coach. Every other year it’s been Doug and it’s been regression every year. Dunno how you can’t see that pattern. 

That's making an excuse for Wentz that he doesn't deserve. Maybe Reich did play a big part in things. That's no excuse for Wentz to be this bad. He's arguably the worst starting QB in the league right now. 

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

How is it Doug’s fault? He has 100 offensive coordinators and this was the best they could come up with? Those people were forced on him to boot. 

What?

There will be changes coming, Lurie is not a stupid man, he is seeing what we’re seeing, he will just wait until after the season. If I’m Howie I’m hiding in the basement, lol

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That's making an excuse for Wentz that he doesn't deserve. Maybe Reich did play a big part in things. That's no excuse for Wentz to be this bad. He's arguably the worst starting QB in the league right now. 

That’s not excuse. It’s reality. It’s horrible play calling. Horrible play design. Give him better plays and he’ll make the throws. 

I always thought they drafted hurts as insurance in case wentz was either injured or regressed to the point that he has. So with that in mind, why haven’t we made the switch yet and why the f have we drafted hurts in the second round if we aren’t going to ever make the switch?

Just now, wtfcares said:

That’s not excuse. It’s reality. It’s horrible play calling. Horrible play design. Give him better plays and he’ll make the throws. 

You're kidding? The least accurate QB in the NFL? The guy can't hit the side of a barn.