Just now, Uscg-green said:

Was he benched by the GOAT coach in the middle of a Championship?

Would Wentz have even made that Alabama team? Nope. 

1 minute ago, nipples said:

Would Wentz have even made that Alabama team? Nope. 

How do you know? We do know Hurts was given the keys to one of  the most talented teams ever and had to be replaced and transfer out. 

20 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Yep. There's a reason why Saban benched him in middle of national championship.

and Wentz got benched for a guy who got benched in the middle of the national championship. What does that say about Wentz?

Just now, Codegreen said:

and Wentz got benched by a guy who got benched in the middle of the national championship. What does that say about Wentz?

That a good QB at least needs an NFL talent line to succeed. But hey let's scapegoat the franchise QB!

Just now, Uscg-green said:

That a good QB at least needs an NFL talent line to succeed. But hey let's scapegoat the franchise QB!

But Carson simply hasn't been good enough. And as the most important player on any team and given the contract he has and that he's in his fifth year he's got to be better. 

Carson showed and literally everyone up to Romo noted Carson is not playing well. Just how you get out of that is a wonderment. Things went a bit better with Hurts because Hurts was not afraid. Wentz is shell shocked and needs something, when you figure it out let me know. 

Settle into soft parts of the pocket as Romo described and throw the ball. Get rid of the happy feet. 

 

39 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I think Peters is injured again

I’m shocked!

One thing here is I don’t believe Carson will have the great return from this. This guy is a broken quarterback, and will never learn from this. He needs a change of scenery and frankly should never start for the Eagles again. Let’s be honest here. Doug didn’t start this situation, because Howie used a 2nd round pick on a quarterback. It was only a matter of time before this happened. If you didn’t see this coming back then you’re were kidding yourself. If someone should be fired over this it would be Howie first. You will never get Carson back here. I don’t care if this guy had all pros everywhere. It doesn’t matter if he holds onto the ball, keeps getting sacked, fumbling, missing easy passes, and throwing to the other team. There’s no statute of Wentz in Philly. There was no shrine in the locker room made to Wentz in Philly. The Eagles had one good season with the guy that’s all. Frankly he might be the most overrated Eagle all time when you think of how some of you actually said this guy was better than McNabb. Goodbye Carson. Thanks for almost winning an MVP, never winning a playoff game, causing the Eagles cap space to go to crap, barely having a career positive win loss record, sucking many into thinking you were the greatest thing since sliced bread, and acting like you were far above all the guys who actually won while you weren’t there. 

17 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

One thing here is I don’t believe Carson will have the great return from this. This guy is a broken quarterback, and will never learn from this. He needs a change of scenery and frankly should never start for the Eagles again. Let’s be honest here. Doug didn’t start this situation, because Howie used a 2nd round pick on a quarterback. It was only a matter of time before this happened. If you didn’t see this coming back then you’re were kidding yourself. If someone should be fired over this it would be Howie first. You will never get Carson back here. I don’t care if this guy had all pros everywhere. It doesn’t matter if he holds onto the ball, keeps getting sacked, fumbling, missing easy passes, and throwing to the other team. There’s no statute of Wentz in Philly. There was no shrine in the locker room made to Wentz in Philly. The Eagles had one good season with the guy that’s all. Frankly he might be the most overrated Eagle all time when you think of how some of you actually said this guy was better than McNabb. Goodbye Carson. Thanks for almost winning an MVP, never winning a playoff game, causing the Eagles cap space to go to crap, barely having a career positive win loss record, sucking many into thinking you were the greatest thing since sliced bread, and acting like you were far above all the guys who actually won while you weren’t there. 

Most overrated Eagle of all time, but gets us home field in our only Super Bowl winning season. 

LOL 

His career hasn't gone as expected, but Jesus Christ that might be the worst take of all time.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Most overrated Eagle of all time, but gets us home field in our only Super Bowl winning season. 

LOL 

His career hasn't gone as expected, but Jesus Christ that might be the worst take of all time.

 

 

I know he had a nice run, but he didn’t get the Eagles home field through the playoffs. He got hurt and the Eagles still had to win games after he got hurt to cement that. 

4 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I know he had a nice run, but he didn’t get the Eagles home field through the playoffs. He got hurt and the Eagles still had to win games after he got hurt to cement that. 

Yeah, the Giants and Raiders who were a combined 9-23

9 hours ago, CaliEagle said:

I highly doubt Lurie fires a coach until the season is over unless things are so bad internally that there is no other option. So, I doubt this is true unless Doug and Howie are arguing daily.

I highly doubt Lurie fires anyone at all. They are all going to get the Rona pass for this season.

23 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Yeah, the Giants and Raiders who were a combined 9-23

Well Wentz beat a bunch of beanbag teams in 2019, but that’s okay right? 🙄

This is what I’m talking about though. People saying Carson accomplished things he actually didn’t do. 

59 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

That a good QB at least needs an NFL talent line to succeed. But hey let's scapegoat the franchise QB!

It’s like I’m in the Twilight Zone.

We just watched Hurts have success under the exact same circumstances. We’ve also watched Wentz spend the whole season playing worse than Daniel Jones and Gardner Minshew.

I’m not sure Hurts can be a successful NFL starting quarterback (probably not). However, I’m convinced Wentz is not the answer. I don’t understand what happened, but he’s terrible right now.

If nothing else we got a Sb out of the Wentz era regardless of how it happened. We can turn the page now. Both parties could benefit from a fresh start 

5 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Well Wentz beat a bunch of beanbag teams in 2019, but that’s okay right? 🙄

Completely different conversation and circumstance, but sure.

Look, Wentz blows right now. He's not at all what we thought 2017 would bring. It sucks. He was without question the major driving force behind our 2017 home field throughout the playoffs.

10 hours ago, phil77 said:

"Hurts played better in the second half than Wentz did all season"  -  Laughable and false.  

 

Lol that's ridiculous. Wentz has played like crap, but Hurts only started for 2 quarters.

Howie needs to be fired for these horrible drafts. The players he reached on over other players is stupid

9 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Completely different conversation and circumstance, but sure.

Look, Wentz blows right now. He's not at all what we thought 2017 would bring. It sucks. He was without question the major driving force behind our 2017 home field throughout the playoffs.

Funny I see people claim he’s the major driving force, in 2017 while the same jamokes blame everyone but Carson for him looking like gutter trash right now. Food for thought. If Carson was the "major driving force” then how in the world did they win a super bowl without him? 

2 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

That a good QB at least needs an NFL talent line to succeed. But hey let's scapegoat the franchise QB!

Wentz has not been the same for 3 years now ever since Reich left.  Games when he's had full strength O line he has not played well.  You cannot blame injuries alone, just like people can't blame Wentz alone and not account for injuries. He's also had some great games and stretches as well.  He has talent, but this year he's been garbage.

Anyone who doesn't see all the facts of the problems with this team just has an agenda and it's stupid.  The coaching is bad, the injuries are a factor, the O line gives Wentz little time, the defense is bad and the offense is often playing from behind, the receivers drop passes, the skill players bump into each other confused about what to do...

But Wentz also has plays where he's well protected and the are wide open receivers and he misses them and makes bad throws, bad decisions.  It's a lot of factors.  Ignoring the problems with Wentz is stupid, and so is blaming it only on Wentz (which I've not seen a single person say Wentz is the ONLY problem).

2 hours ago, judunno said:

I highly doubt Lurie fires anyone at all. They are all going to get the Rona pass for this season.

I think Press Taylor is definitely out. The rest is debatable. If we lose out, then I think Lurie could fire Doug.  I can't see Lurie firing Howie. Howie always has a free pass.

12 hours ago, opa-opa said:

I think whoever the person who drafts a QB in the 2nd round which destroyed his confidence is the one who should be fired....

If drafting Hurts destroyed Wentz's confidence, then Wentz doesn't deserve to be a starting QB. Packers drafted Jordan Love with a first round pick and Rodgers made people forget Love by playing like a top 5 QB. Why couldn't Wentz do same?

5 hours ago, nipples said:

Benching Wentz was 100% the right move. The only bad decision was not doing it a couple weeks ago. 

This should have happened after Bengals game. 

2 minutes ago, gameshowfan91 said:

If drafting Hurts destroyed Wentz's confidence, then Wentz doesn't deserve to be a starting QB. Packers drafted Jordan Love with a first round pick and Rodgers made people forget Love by playing like a top 5 QB. Why couldn't Wentz do same?

Exactly. It's the same as how it was said that perhaps having Foles on the sidelines didn't help Wentz. That he felt the pressure of that presence. 

Wentz is a better QB than Foles. He's a better QB than Hurts. So just go out there and play like it and there's no issue. 

8 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Exactly. It's the same as how it was said that perhaps having Foles on the sidelines didn't help Wentz. That he felt the pressure of that presence. 

Wentz is a better QB than Foles. He's a better QB than Hurts. So just go out there and play like it and there's no issue. 

I’m not so sure Wentz is better than Hurts yet. It’s way too soon to say. For all we know Hurts could turn out to be great. 

3 minutes ago, nipples said:

I’m not so sure Wentz is better than Hurts yet. It’s way too soon to say. For all we know Hurts could turn out to be great. 

Look coming out of college there's an argument to say Hurts had achieved more. In fact he had without argument. But Wentz coming out was a top of the first round QB, Hurts was not.