toughfighter83 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 i hope lurie loses alot of money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: It sucks, but the only positive, is it leaves Howie with no where to hide. His shield is gone. Nope. Andy Weidl (Douglas' replacement over Personnel), and now "I was just getting the type of players Coach Siri wanted." Both could be fired, Howie will remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, NOTW said: Nope. Andy Weidl (Douglas' replacement over Personnel), and now "I was just getting the type of players Coach Siri wanted." Both could be fired, Howie will remain. True. I've always found that defense hilarious though. If Howie is "just getting players the coaches want", then he's not a GM. He's a secretary. A glorified gopher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: True. I've always found that defense hilarious though. If Howie is "just getting players the coaches want", then he's not a GM. He's a secretary. A glorified gopher. It should be in unison though with the coach getting his way a little more since he is the one that has to get them in his scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said: It should be in unison though with the coach getting his way a little more since he is the one that has to get them in his scheme I believe a coach should have input in the sense of providing measurables he'd like in a player, or specific skill sets they'd like, but the GM should be finding the talent that fits the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwestbrook36 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: I believe a coach should have input in the sense of providing measurables he'd like in a player, or specific skill sets they'd like, but the GM should be finding the talent that fits the bill. Basically what I meant lol. It definitely shouldn't be Howie and lurie picking whoever the eff they want without the coaches input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, Bwestbrook36 said: Basically what I meant lol. It definitely shouldn't be Howie and lurie picking whoever the eff they want without the coaches input That I agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brkmsn Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If Sirianni's strength as a coach really is maximizing players' strengths and minimizing their weaknesses, I think we can all relax a little bit. I do feel that our previous coaching staff was awful in that area, sticking to a system whether we had the right personnel or not. We often tried to force results to happen rather than make adjustments based on who was in the game. The reason I'm bringing this up is because I believe we can have better results with the players we have than what we've been getting. It seems obvious at times when a player leaves that we just weren't using them properly. Guys like Douglas, Jones and Fort all did better when their new team put them in situations to succeed. I really feel it's important to give the 2020 draft a chance before writing it off like some already have. So we see a team like the vikings plug a highly regarded rookie (Jefferson) in the place of their departed start WR (Diggs) and they don't miss a beat. Can you really argue that the Eagles used Reagor in a way that favored his strengths as a player? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philafan4o8 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Curious how much Dorsey knows of the Eagles current draft plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, philafan4o8 said: Curious how much Dorsey knows of the Eagles current draft plans. Good point. A ready made excuse for Lurie to continue to defend Howie. I can see it now: "You know we had a great draft board lined up, Howie did a great job setting with draft board with his FO staff but then plans changed. We lost a guy to another organisation who picked the guy we really liked ahead of us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Good point. A ready made excuse for Lurie to continue to defend Howie. I can see it now: "You know we had a great draft board lined up, Howie did a great job setting with draft board with his FO staff but then plans changed. We lost a guy to another organisation who picked the guy we really liked ahead of us." Lions pick after us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, downundermike said: Lions pick after us I missed that. You're right. Maybe now they'll move up ahead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blackfish Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 All GM’s have more misses than hits, if not, rosters all over the league would be turned over every few years and free agency wouldn’t mean all that much. TBF, the Patriots are usually way under the cap year in and out and Belichick usually fields a competitive team. Imagine being Brady taking a pay cut every year so they can sign better players, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philafan4o8 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Good point. A ready made excuse for Lurie to continue to defend Howie. I can see it now: "You know we had a great draft board lined up, Howie did a great job setting with draft board with his FO staff but then plans changed. We lost a guy to another organisation who picked the guy we really liked ahead of us." Or ”Howie has great people around him. As you can see, another organization picking from our 1st class front office staff led by Howie.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 As I keep saying, Howie will NEVER give up total control and final say over player evaluation and acquisition. He will draft, trade, and sign the FA's that HE thinks are best for the team. It is literally his favorite part of his job and he won't stop doing it just because he absolutely sucks at it. After all, the draft merely a guessing game anyway, and he guesses right a tiny little bit, so that means he's as great at it as anybody else. Just ask him. He's the Donald Trump of GM's. He keeps spouting absolutely false nonsense in an effort to survive, and it works because Lurie keeps lapping it up. Then, they fire everybody around him, but never him. It's sickening to watch. His draft record from 2016-2020 shows that he finds starters (zero Probowlers or better***edit** Wentz 1 year) at a rate of just under 20% of his picks (7 out of 36 picks). The rest don't make it. That is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2rock Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, brkmsn said: If Sirianni's strength as a coach really is maximizing players' strengths and minimizing their weaknesses, I think we can all relax a little bit. I do feel that our previous coaching staff was awful in that area, sticking to a system whether we had the right personnel or not. We often tried to force results to happen rather than make adjustments based on who was in the game. Great point. I’ve often criticized Doug and his staff for the lack of player development and for failing to adjust scheme to the strengths of his players. One reason I am glad he is gone (along with most of his staff). And should the lack of player development continue even under a new coaching staff, then perhaps Lurie will finally open his eyes and realize Howie is the biggest problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Howie refusing to relinquish that control I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 40 minutes ago, philafan4o8 said: Curious how much Dorsey knows of the Eagles current draft plans. I'm curious if the Eagles HAVE any current draft plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, NOTW said: I'm curious if the Eagles HAVE any current draft plans. They have plans... It's in their diaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philafan4o8 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, NOTW said: I'm curious if the Eagles HAVE any current draft plans. The plan is do what Howie says or else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road to Victory Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: So Howie doesn't get fired and Dorsey is now with the Lions. Which means once again it'll be Howie having most say on picks. Great. But don't worry guys, some of those picked 1-5 will be on our radar. And Howie will like those players a lot and it'll just be unfortunate that they were picked before we got on the clock. Howie wanted that hire to happen. He hates competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheesesteakNBeer Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 When Dorsey walked into our organization and met Howie... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, CheesesteakNBeer said: When Dorsey walked into our organization and met Howie... You think he was even there that long? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 6 hours ago, time2rock said: And now being reported that Dorsey is leaving to take a position with Detroit. Oh well, I guess we'll have to brace for another sheety draft. When it comes to Howie, Lurie doesn't have the teams best interest in mind, if he did Howie surely would've been gone this year after the Reagor pick because a blind man can see Reagor is never going to amount to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, EagleVA said: Oh well, I guess we'll have to brace for another sheety draft. When it comes to Howie, Lurie doesn't have the teams best interest in mind, if he did Howie surely would've been gone this year after the Reagor pick because a blind man can see Reagor is never going to amount to much. If he had a decent to average QB he will. Reagor has a ton of natural born talent but like most players our coaches had their system and refused to adjust for skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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