12 minutes ago, hey suess said:

Wasn’t questioning his stats (although in 18 he only played 11 games so it be hard to say how he would have compared to 2019 when he played 16)......but I’m talking about how he played....we’ve all watched his career, he’s played better when he had a little pressure.

Like the devil says, pressure changes everything. Some people, you squeeze them, they focus. Others, they fold.

The thing is, Wentz never played better than he did in 2017. At that time, Foles was not yet a playoff hero including a Super Bowl MVP. I don’t think he was putting any pressure on Wentz at the time. 

1 minute ago, EagleJoe8 said:

The thing is, Wentz never played better than he did in 2017. At that time, Foles was not yet a playoff hero including a Super Bowl MVP. I don’t think he was putting any pressure on Wentz at the time. 

No more than Josh McCown?? C’mon man. Lol

 

Just now, hey suess said:

I just get the feeling that 2018 Wentz doesn’t lose to Detroit and Miami.

I think you mean 2017 Wentz. But I can see that. I think Doug played a major role in the lack of production on this team.

2017 when Doug gave up more responsibility to Frank was a major step up after the chiefs loss this team was the best in the NFL in points scored in the first half. 

2016,2018,2019 When Doug was fully in charge we are one of the worst teams in the NFL in first half points. We are one of the best second half teams but Id rather be ahead going into the half, lol. I think Doug is one of the biggest factors this year on how he changes. I think Doug is a great HEAD coach, but a poor OC. He s not very creative on his game plans, scheme play designs etc. Im hoping all these 20 new coaches will help push him into giving up a lot of that to better the team. 

1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:

I think you mean 2017 Wentz. But I can see that. I think Doug played a major role in the lack of production on this team.

2017 when Doug gave up more responsibility to Frank was a major step up after the chiefs loss this team was the best in the NFL in points scored in the first half. 

2016,2018,2019 When Doug was fully in charge we are one of the worst teams in the NFL in first half points. We are one of the best second half teams but Id rather be ahead going into the half, lol. I think Doug is one of the biggest factors this year on how he changes. I think Doug is a great HEAD coach, but a poor OC. He s not very creative on his game plans, scheme play designs etc. Im hoping all these 20 new coaches will help push him into giving up a lot of that to better the team. 

It takes a village. 😁

1 minute ago, hey suess said:

No more than Josh McCown?? C’mon man. Lol

No, I don't think there was any pressure on Wentz in 2017. At that time, Foles had the 27-2 season including the 7 TD game, but he hadn't won any playoff games himself. Foles was just a known commodity to the FO then, but in no way a threat to Wentz's job.

If Wentz feels pressure from any opponent or INTERNALLY,we have the wrong guy.He is a competitor(alpha male attitude).This has gotten him into trouble as he learns.Sometimes he needs to throw balls away if the play is not there.I hope now we have some weapons for him to have another outlet besides Ertz. Sometimes he needs to throw balls away rather than run,but that is his competitive spirit coming through.he will do whatever he can for the team.He just needs to realize we need him EVERY week and he needs to choose his "battles" better.He will,he is not stupid.Im glad we got him some weapons to use and I think you will see a nice change this year.he did remarkably well with PS guys.He threw for over 4k yards,thats not terrible especially when you have musical chairs at WR every week

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

If Wentz feels pressure from any opponent or INTERNALLY,we have the wrong guy.He is a competitor(alpha male attitude).This has gotten him into trouble as he learns.Sometimes he needs to throw balls away if the play is not there.I hope now we have some weapons for him to have another outlet besides Ertz. Sometimes he needs to throw balls away rather than run,but that is his competitive spirit coming through.he will do whatever he can for the team.he just needs to realize we need him EVERY week and he needs to choose his "battles" better.he will,he is not stupid.Im glad we got him some weapons to use and I think you will see a nice change this year.he did remarkably well with PS guys.He threw for over 4k yards,thats not terrible especially when you have musical chairs at WR every week

There’s nothing wrong with feeling pressure. It boosts competitiveness. 

27 minutes ago, hey suess said:

Do you think Carson played better when Foles was here, or McCown?

That is such a jaded question with so many caveats it can’t be answered.  I’d argue what Carson did down the stretch last season with a practice squad was more impressive than what he did in 2017.  I don’t care who they played.  

1 minute ago, hey suess said:

There’s nothing wrong with feeling pressure. It boosts competitiveness. 

I meant as a threat to his job.FEAR is not an option at QB whether external or internal.You play your best and the FO decides if they keep you

BTW he gets long fine with Foles,was there to help him win the Lombardi.I think in a year or 2 we could see Foles return as our BU.We let him test the waters to see if he could start anywhere.If he can great,if not,he has a home back here as a BU and I think after this "test" he would understand that and be happy here in that role

16 minutes ago, hey suess said:

I just get the feeling that 2018 Wentz doesn’t lose to Detroit and Miami.

Against Detroit, they dropped 7 passes and Agholor literally had a ghost fumble along with JJAW dropping a game tying/winning TD pass right in his hands. In Miami, they gave up 37 points to one of the worst offensive teams in the league and Fitzpatrick looked like Peyton Manning against our secondary.  Do those things happen in 2017?  

28 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Against Detroit, they dropped 7 passes and Agholor literally had a ghost fumble along with JJAW dropping a game tying/winning TD pass right in his hands. In Miami, they gave up 37 points to one of the worst offensive teams in the league and Fitzpatrick looked like Peyton Manning against our secondary.  Do those things happen in 2017?  

Against Atlanta Agholor (shock) dropped a pass that would have taken him to the end zone. Another narrow painful loss.

11 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Against Atlanta Agholor (shock) dropped a pass that would have taken him to the end zone. Another narrow painful loss.

Jim called one of the worst plays in defense as well. Having the DB play back 7 yards on Julio when they needed 3 for a first down. It wasnt rocket science to audible to a screen. What made it worse was Julio was given a running start since the DB was backed up too much leading to Julio getting the advantage on making a move. 

All around this team was horrible last year and Wentz and Sanders were really the only stand outs and helped this team edge by the weakest div in football. If Cowboys had a decent coach, we don;t sniff the playoffs. And none of it was on Wentz. 

23 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

All around this team was horrible last year and Wentz and Sanders were really the only stand outs and helped this team edge by the weakest div in football. If Cowboys had a decent coach, we don;t sniff the playoffs. And none of it was on Wentz. 

And my concern is the Cowboys had a good draft and have a better HC this year. I think this year could be a real struggle. 

9 hours ago, NOTW said:

I agree with this completely. 

That might be more shocking than the Hurts pick.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If Wentz feels pressure from any opponent or INTERNALLY,we have the wrong guy.

This is pretty much it in a nutshell.         I don't believe any of the garbage about Wentz being in trouble here, and I'm confident that he doesn't look at Hurts as a "threat".         If he does, then the problem is that Roseman just handed $100 million to the wrong guy, and that is one more mark against the "Executive of the Year".

10 minutes ago, mjkvol said:

That might be more shocking than the Hurts pick.

It shouldn't be. 

6 hours ago, Infam said:

 

Interesting video . . . very informative & revealing.

I'm feeling a lot better about this pick already. 

Thanks for posting.

5 hours ago, hey suess said:

I maybe disagree with where Hurts was picked, we may have gotten him in a later round but to say it was an unnecessary pick is disingenuous. 

Not only that it's wrong !

4 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

This guy will be a gadget player at best for us, and we don’t even know if he’s ok with that.

You don't know that _for sure_.

If this were a stacked roster, one or two pieces away, then I could see making the gamble.

I think we have too many needs elsewhere to take a chance on a luxury like this.

I don't recall who said it but someone somewhere once said,

"Given the chance for injury in this game teams have to make sure they have two good QBs on the roster."  

 

47 minutes ago, McNabbIsDone said:

Interesting video . . . very informative & revealing.

I'm feeling a lot better about this pick already. 

Thanks for posting.

I genuinely feel sorry for the kid.  I think he's a good and motivated player that has the potential to help the offense.  I don't see him as an every down QB or a threat to Wentz.  That's what makes the pick so puzzling.

38 minutes ago, McNabbIsDone said:

 

If he's not a gadget player, then the only other option is he's here to take the starting job. There is no way they're giving a starting job to someone who just signed a $130 Million contract.

 

As for the other bolded line, I'm not opposed to having a backup. I'm opposed to using a 2nd round pick on an insurance policy as opposed to using it to aquire help for the QB in the first place.

I’ve been thinking a lot about the Jalen Hurts pick. We all know Carson is a simple dude...hunting, fishing, ministry, etc. He already has more money than he or his kids will ever need in his eyes, and most definitely will by the end of his current contract. I don’t see him being an Eli, Rivers, Ben, Brees, Brady, Rodgers, etc. playing into his late 30’s or to 40. Do you?  We may have 5ish more years out of him until he calls it quits (or less if he one day pulls an Andrew Luck over mounting injuries). Jalen will only be 25-26 at that time, with years of experience in this offense under his belt.  Sudfeld is also going to move on after this year, and do we really trust him to jump in if Carson goes down and take us through the playoffs?  Look I love Carson, and he is THE man here, but we all know Carson’s odds of finishing a full season aren’t the greatest. Jalen is your #2 and gadget player, and your potential future #1. I don’t love it at 53, but I’m beginning to understand it a bit more. I think there’s 0 chance he was available at 103. Day 3 made me feel way less apprehensive about this pick. Plus the season is getting longer. 

2 hours ago, mjkvol said:

This is pretty much it in a nutshell.         I don't believe any of the garbage about Wentz being in trouble here, and I'm confident that he doesn't look at Hurts as a "threat".         If he does, then the problem is that Roseman just handed $100 million to the wrong guy, and that is one more mark against the "Executive of the Year".

I'm thinking here(usually dangerous) we can do what the Pats did with Garapolo.Another option COULD BE,the jags wanted him as a BU to Minshew.Now, if we had a CLOSE deal for Yak(Ngakowe) this is a carrot we can hold out on front of them.Suddenly Howie is a genius lol

59 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

As for the other bolded line

What is it with some of youse guys and the use of bolded or italic characters ?

I use it / them simply to make it easier to differentiate between the two of us.

Don't understand why it's even an issue.