Fresh New Coaching Blood

[Wink]

How can you not like it?

All young, assorted, different minds.....

How can it be any worse then watching the same movie every week this past year?

And I know a lot of you out there are still wondering was it Peterson or Reich?

Hail to the new troops!

[315Eagles]

Now just get Urlacher to be the LB coach....

[pallidrone]

I cant wait to see how badly mangled Sirianni's name becomes on this board.

[[TSM]_PimpDaddyPain]

37 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

I cant wait to see how badly mangled Sirianni's name becomes on this board.

true, the board has butchered much easier names lol

[NOTW]

2 hours ago, Wink said:

How can you not like it?

All young, assorted, different minds.....

How can it be any worse then watching the same movie every week this past year?

And I know a lot of you out there are still wondering was it Peterson or Reich?

Hail to the new troops!

 

It was Norm Peterson.  Call me Sir, damnit!

 

[20dawk4life]

Who is this Peterson? Adrian? 

[time2rock]

We had one St. Nick deliver us a championship.  Maybe Sirianni will be the next St. Nick to do so.

[VaBeach_Eagle]

9 hours ago, Wink said:

How can you not like it?

I don't like giving up on a coach so quickly after winning our first Super Bowl. Yes, this was a horrible season. Yes, Doug shoulders the blame. But if Lurie's going to show incomprehensible loyalty to Howie, I'd have liked for him to show a tiny smidgen of loyalty to Doug and at least give him another season to work it out.

Of course, for all I know, Lurie gave Doug the option of staying around but with the requirement that he do something that he wasn't willing to do (like fire someone or insert Carson back in as #1 or whatever), and Doug wasn't willing and essentially resigned by forcing Lurie to let him go. 

Maybe we won't be right back here in 3 or 4 years with 'fresh new coaching blood', but I fear we will be. 

[Traveler Vic]

1 hour ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I don't like giving up on a coach so quickly after winning our first Super Bowl. Yes, this was a horrible season. Yes, Doug shoulders the blame. But if Lurie's going to show incomprehensible loyalty to Howie, I'd have liked for him to show a tiny smidgen of loyalty to Doug and at least give him another season to work it out.

Of course, for all I know, Lurie gave Doug the option of staying around but with the requirement that he do something that he wasn't willing to do (like fire someone or insert Carson back in as #1 or whatever), and Doug wasn't willing and essentially resigned by forcing Lurie to let him go. 

Maybe we won't be right back here in 3 or 4 years with 'fresh new coaching blood', but I fear we will be. 

Of course we will be . Statistically it is impossible with so many wholesale changes, for things not to go wrong. Maybe our OC with previously spotty record? Maybe personal? Maybe what ever...but it would be assinine to expect high success at this point...so the smartest thing is let's wait and see. Let's be patient to make judgements, and let things gel together. Sometimes towards the middle or end of next year , it will be a lot more clearer who is a keeper and who is a dud on the current team.

[Madriver]

2 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I don't like giving up on a coach so quickly after winning our first Super Bowl. Yes, this was a horrible season. Yes, Doug shoulders the blame. But if Lurie's going to show incomprehensible loyalty to Howie, I'd have liked for him to show a tiny smidgen of loyalty to Doug and at least give him another season to work it out.

Of course, for all I know, Lurie gave Doug the option of staying around but with the requirement that he do something that he wasn't willing to do (like fire someone or insert Carson back in as #1 or whatever), and Doug wasn't willing and essentially resigned by forcing Lurie to let him go. 

Maybe we won't be right back here in 3 or 4 years with 'fresh new coaching blood', but I fear we will be. 

And that's the point. Nobody outside the organization knows. Doug coached the Washington game like he wanted to get fired, frankly. He looked and sounded burned out.

I'm really excited to see what this new young coaching staff will do, and I like that Lurie has cleaned house.

Again, no one knows for sure, but I think this is stage one. Howie's seat has to be feeling a bit warmer right now.

[Madriver]

12 hours ago, Wink said:

How can you not like it?

All young, assorted, different minds.....

How can it be any worse then watching the same movie every week this past year?

And I know a lot of you out there are still wondering was it Peterson or Reich?

Hail to the new troops!

[EazyEaglez]

This coaching staff has a lot of work to do. There isn’t a lot of young talent on this squad to be excited about and there are several older players who haven’t gotten enough accountability from Doug and the previous coaches. I hope Howie can pull his head out and have a few home run drafts to change this roster over for the better. 

[NOTW]

4 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I don't like giving up on a coach so quickly after winning our first Super Bowl. Yes, this was a horrible season. Yes, Doug shoulders the blame. But if Lurie's going to show incomprehensible loyalty to Howie, I'd have liked for him to show a tiny smidgen of loyalty to Doug and at least give him another season to work it out.

Of course, for all I know, Lurie gave Doug the option of staying around but with the requirement that he do something that he wasn't willing to do (like fire someone or insert Carson back in as #1 or whatever), and Doug wasn't willing and essentially resigned by forcing Lurie to let him go. 

Maybe we won't be right back here in 3 or 4 years with 'fresh new coaching blood', but I fear we will be. 

Yeah. Eagles PR team is going overboard hyping Sirianni, and it feels weird to me when it wasn't really Doug's fault. It was different after Chip, we wanted to see him gone. 

[Procus]

From where I'm sitting, I'd be expecting a lot of roster turnover with the roster to get much younger.  Probably explains in part the youth movement in the coaching staff.  The team brass is probably looking for a few years out for this coaching staff and the new roster to grow together.

As for Wentz, if the team can save a nice chunk of his salary, even if it eats a big cap hit for the next couple of years, it could make sense to move on.  Everybody is getting clobbered during COVID, and getting part of that contract off the books helps the bottom line.

[JetroLot]

17 hours ago, NOTW said:

 

It was Norm Peterson.  Call me Sir, damnit!

 

/thread

[Penn7980]

13 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I don't like giving up on a coach so quickly after winning our first Super Bowl. Yes, this was a horrible season. Yes, Doug shoulders the blame. But if Lurie's going to show incomprehensible loyalty to Howie, I'd have liked for him to show a tiny smidgen of loyalty to Doug and at least give him another season to work it out.

Of course, for all I know, Lurie gave Doug the option of staying around but with the requirement that he do something that he wasn't willing to do (like fire someone or insert Carson back in as #1 or whatever), and Doug wasn't willing and essentially resigned by forcing Lurie to let him go. 

Maybe we won't be right back here in 3 or 4 years with 'fresh new coaching blood', but I fear we will be. 

On the firing of Doug, Lurie said that he was looking forward to welcoming Doug back on the honor ring as the SB winning coach.  That was his "tiny smidgen" of loyalty to Doug.

Without doubt, Howie has his share of blames of a poor season.  Yet, he keeps his job at least to this point, and still has the responsibility of personnel.  Even the new HC just said that Howie has the say of the roster.   Nothing changed.

 

[Hawkeye]

3 hours ago, Procus said:

From where I'm sitting, I'd be expecting a lot of roster turnover with the roster to get much younger.  Probably explains in part the youth movement in the coaching staff.  The team brass is probably looking for a few years out for this coaching staff and the new roster to grow together.

As for Wentz, if the team can save a nice chunk of his salary, even if it eats a big cap hit for the next couple of years, it could make sense to move on.  Everybody is getting clobbered during COVID, and getting part of that contract off the books helps the bottom line.

This is pretty much how I feel.  2021 is going to be a lost year.  The Eagles need to get their cap situation fixed which means they will jettison a lot of bad contracts and veteran players.  They can rebuild quickly but need to clear the decks to do so.

And as for QB? Goff is available.

Remember when the Goff/Wentz debate was raging?  Good times.

[Thrive]

11 hours ago, Madriver said:

And that's the point. Nobody outside the organization knows. Doug coached the Washington game like he wanted to get fired, frankly. He looked and sounded burned out.

I'm really excited to see what this new young coaching staff will do, and I like that Lurie has cleaned house.

Again, no one knows for sure, but I think this is stage one. Howie's seat has to be feeling a bit warmer right now.

Sounds familiar to how I saw Andy Reid circa 2012.

This ownership and front office team is truly toxic. The only coach I think that actually seemed to enjoy working at the Novacare was the Chipper and that’s probably because he was just as crazy as everyone else.

[VaBeach_Eagle]

2 hours ago, Penn7980 said:

That was his "tiny smidgen" of loyalty to Doug.

I don't see that as being any amount of loyalty, that's a given. Doug was guaranteed induction into the Eagles Hall of Fame the instant that Hail Mary bounced in the end zone. Or maybe even the instant that Nick caught the Philly Special. 

[LacesOut]

18 hours ago, Madriver said:

Again, no one knows for sure, but I think this is stage one. Howie's seat has to be feeling a bit warmer right now.

Howie - for some ungodly reason - has survived 3 (3!) Coaching changes!! That like never ever ever happens in Pro Sports. Usually the GM is on his way out when the Coach is out. 

It's practically his team, IMO. So I think his seat will never be warm. After what we have seen over the past 6-8 years and he still is in the same position. SMFH.

[toughfighter83]

11 hours ago, Procus said:

From where I'm sitting, I'd be expecting a lot of roster turnover with the roster to get much younger.  Probably explains in part the youth movement in the coaching staff.  The team brass is probably looking for a few years out for this coaching staff and the new roster to grow together.

As for Wentz, if the team can save a nice chunk of his salary, even if it eats a big cap hit for the next couple of years, it could make sense to move on.  Everybody is getting clobbered during COVID, and getting part of that contract off the books helps the bottom line.

yeah i agree, i think it was only a matter of time because of the age of the talent, when you are 4-11 with aging talent it means you have to rebuild. the coaching staff could a hit or miss but after a couple of years i think we'll find out.

i dont see us competing for a while until we have cap space.

[Mike030270]

He's still got the stink of Howie on him

[The Blackfish]

1 hour ago, LacesOut said:

Howie - for some ungodly reason - has survived 3 (3!) Coaching changes!! That like never ever ever happens in Pro Sports. Usually the GM is on his way out when the Coach is out. 

It's practically his team, IMO. So I think his seat will never be warm. After what we have seen over the past 6-8 years and he still is in the same position. SMFH.

Lurie fired Banner and that was his friend since forever.  Howie is here until he doesn’t want to be here, or Lurie sells the team, everyone needs to get over that. 

[Iggles_Phan]

On 1/29/2021 at 11:46 AM, pallidrone said:

I cant wait to see how badly mangled Sirianni's name becomes on this board.

Barkann got his name wrong in the intro to his PC.  Called him 'SiriannO'. 

[Iggles_Phan]

22 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I don't like giving up on a coach so quickly after winning our first Super Bowl. Yes, this was a horrible season. Yes, Doug shoulders the blame. But if Lurie's going to show incomprehensible loyalty to Howie, I'd have liked for him to show a tiny smidgen of loyalty to Doug and at least give him another season to work it out.

Of course, for all I know, Lurie gave Doug the option of staying around but with the requirement that he do something that he wasn't willing to do (like fire someone or insert Carson back in as #1 or whatever), and Doug wasn't willing and essentially resigned by forcing Lurie to let him go. 

Maybe we won't be right back here in 3 or 4 years with 'fresh new coaching blood', but I fear we will be. 

Definitely won't be.  Lurie (and by extension the organization) swings the pendulum to extremes.   This time is a newly minted HC, all new coordinators, none have HC experience.   So, the only possible choice if this fails is to bring back a cadre of all former HCs to run things.