13 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Juneteenth is a Texas holiday.  It’s fine for people to celebrate it of course, but they should at least understand what they’re celebrating - black liberation in Texas.

Yeah, I'm not so sure you should be discussing that anymore given that you live in North Carolina.

8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yeah, I'm not so sure you should be discussing that anymore given that you live in North Carolina.

I’m pretty sure slavery in NC didn’t last very long after April 9, 1865, but I’m not sure if there’s an exact date that people point to.   The Emancipation Proclamation was already in effect after January 1, 1863 of course.

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

I’m pretty sure slavery in NC didn’t last very long after April 9, 1865, but I’m not sure if there’s an exact date that people point to.   The Emancipation Proclamation was already in effect after January 1, 1863 of course.

Yeah but Juneteenth was a Texas thing and you live in NC.  Let the Texans comment.  Plus you're white and a hippy.

3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yeah but Juneteenth was a Texas thing and you live in NC.  Let the Texans comment.  Plus you're white and a hippy.

By that standard people in Sweden shouldn’t comment on any issue in the States.

Just now, Dave Moss said:

By that standard people in Sweden shouldn’t comment on any issue in the States.

Nah, that's a Trump isolationist view

Moss - Are you from Texas?

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Moss - Are you from Texas?

No, PA.  Surprised by that?

Just now, Dave Moss said:

No, PA.  Surprised by that?

No, not at all.  That would have been my guess.

1 hour ago, Jsvand12 said:

So pandering a month before the election only to never hear a word about the plan after Nov 3rd.

I don't know, I mean it is a platinum package. Not bronze not gold but Platinum. How can they turn that down.

Tough to beat free Obamaphones. Now that's The Art of the Deal.

1 hour ago, Jsvand12 said:

So pandering a month before the election only to never hear a word about the plan after Nov 3rd.

 

You mean like the CJ reform that not even the last guy signed?  But yeah Democrat are filing suit because they own the rights to pandering to minorities. 

11 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

 

You mean like the CJ reform that not even the last guy signed?  But yeah Democrat are filing suit because they own the rights to pandering to minorities. 

We’ll see. Strange that he’s had four years but waits till a month before the election. Probably just a coincidence I guess.

12 hours ago, NOTW said:

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-plan-for-black-america

Trump $500B Black America plan designates KKK, Antifa as 'terrorist organizations'

President Trump’s plan for Black America designates the KKK and Antifa as terrorist organizations and calls for making lynching a national hate crime, while pledging to increase access to capital in Black communities by nearly $500 billion, Fox News has learned.

The president on Friday is expected to roll out details of what the campaign is calling the "Platinum Plan,” which details "opportunity,” "security,” "prosperity,” and "fairness” for the Black Community.

"For decades, Democrat politicians like Joe Biden have taken Black voters for granted. They made you big promises before every election—and then the moment they got to Washington, they abandoned you and sold you out,” the president is expected to say Friday, according to remarks exclusively obtained by Fox News. "The Democrats will always take Black voters for granted until large numbers of Black Americans vote Republican.”

The president is expected to tout the plan as "a bold vision that we can and will achieve over the next four years.”

The president’s plan, according to the campaign, will increase access to capital in Black communities by almost $500 billion, help to create 500,000 new Black-owned businesses, and help to create 3 million new jobs for the Black community.

Fox News obtained a copy of the "Platinum Plan." It states that it will "prosecute the KKK and ANTIFA as terrorist organizations and make lynching a national hate crime.”

The president’s plan also vows to make Juneteenth a national holiday.

Meanwhile, the president is also expected to commit to working on a "Second Step Act,” and provide access to better jobs and training opportunities for those in Black communities.

The Platinum Plan also pledges to give Black churches the ability to compete for federal resources for their communities; bring better and tailored healthcare to address what the campaign called "historic disparities,” and advance home ownership opportunities and enhance financial literacy in Black communities.

As for educational opportunities, the president is expected to vow, in federal, state and local community partnerships to "close failing schools” to replace with "full school choice and education opportunity,” while continuing to protect Historically Black Colleges & Universities.

The president is also expected to pledge to increase the amount of Pell grants and allow for vocational employment and advance targeted apprenticeship and job training programs.

Trump is expected to slam his Democratic opponent Joe Biden, saying that the former vice president "is offering Black Americans nothing but the same, tired, empty slogans.”

"I stand here to offer you solutions,” Trump is expected to say, while adding that "no one in Washington politics today has done more to hurt Black Americans than Joe Biden.”

The president is also expected to vow to increase public safety in Black communities.

"At no time before has there been a clearer choice between two parties, two visions, two philosophies, and two agendas for the future,” Trump will say.

 

This strategy would have probably easily worked a year ago. Even in light of his mishaps.

Yet, based on how he’s bungled the different crisis we have faced this year, this was fall on deaf ears.

For minorities, I find this discourse fascinating. Perhaps I am just not as plugged in but I suspect that the quality of life as a minority has improved these last four years (ironically even though our country has become more overtly racist). Whether that is because of Trump’s policies or just a natural rebound from some tough years is not an issue that folks should just dismiss. Regardless of how our clown-in-chief makes you feel.

Not so cunning way to go after Antifa as a terrorist organization.  Hard pass.

17 minutes ago, Thrive said:

This strategy would have probably easily worked a year ago. Even in light of his mishaps.

Yet, based on how he’s bungled the different crisis we have faced this year, this was fall on deaf ears.

For minorities, I find this discourse fascinating. Perhaps I am just not as plugged in but I suspect that the quality of life as a minority has improved these last four years (ironically even though our country has become more overtly racist). Whether that is because of Trump’s policies or just a natural rebound from some tough years is not an issue that folks should just dismiss. Regardless of how our clown-in-chief makes you feel.

Yeah they are so happy about their improved lives they are protesting and rioting in every major city.  Thank you Donald.

 

Guys, none of this barrage of BS is going to stick.  When they cut to commercials Dems will have an ad waiting with Trump calling players sons of bithces.

21 minutes ago, Thrive said:

This strategy would have probably easily worked a year ago. Even in light of his mishaps.

Yet, based on how he’s bungled the different crisis we have faced this year, this was fall on deaf ears.

For minorities, I find this discourse fascinating. Perhaps I am just not as plugged in but I suspect that the quality of life as a minority has improved these last four years (ironically even though our country has become more overtly racist). Whether that is because of Trump’s policies or just a natural rebound from some tough years is not an issue that folks should just dismiss. Regardless of how our clown-in-chief makes you feel.

Considering where minority unemployment is right now vs 4 years ago, I seriously doubt it. 

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

Considering where minority unemployment is right now vs 4 years ago, I seriously doubt it. 

lol it was the lowest in years before COVID. Nice try. 

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

lol it was the lowest in years before COVID. Nice try. 

Oh, so their lives have improved over the last 4 years as long as you take the last year out of those 4 years?  That''s not how time works.

25 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Oh, so their lives have improved over the last 4 years as long as you take the last year out of those 4 years?  That''s not how time works.

Pretty sure life for everyone has gotten a bit turn upside down. The lockdowns don't help, but again, nice try.

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Pretty sure life for everyone has gotten a bit turn upside down. The lockdowns don't help, but again, nice try.

True, a lot of Americans lives have been ruined under Trump, not just minorities. 

4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

True, a lot of Americans lives have been ruined under Trump, not just minorities. 

Yes, liberals sure have had their mental deterioration and psychic episodes accelerated. Job security for therapist and mental institutions though.

21 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

lol it was the lowest in years before COVID. Nice try. 

True but middle class income growth was smaller than it had been. Just because people can find work driving Uber or being a barista doesn’t mean people are doing well. The one thing Covid showed us was the most people live hand to mouth and pay check to pay check.

6 minutes ago, Gannan said:

 The one thing Covid showed us was the most people live hand to mouth and pay check to pay check.

I agree with the last part. People where I live are also in way more debt than they should be.

On 9/26/2020 at 11:30 AM, DrPhilly said:

No, not at all.  That would have been my guess.

I did teach a couple semesters of Texas History though.  So even though I only lived there for a few years I had to force myself to become somewhat of an expert on Texas.  I don’t pretend to be an exert on every topic, but there’s some things I know a little bit about.
 

It’s actually a little surprising to me how few high school graduates in Texas know what Juneteenth is.  They might have heard of it, but they can’t explain to you what it is.