July 15, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Boogyman said: I thought Braveheart and The Patriot were the same movie to be honest. They definitely modeled Gibson's character in The Patriot after his portrayal of William Wallace in Braveheart.
July 15, 20214 yr Anyway, just your daily reminder that fascists gonna fascist... Quote Top US general warned of ‘Reichstag moment’ in Trump’s turbulent last days Gen Mark Milley drew comparison to NSDAP Germany as Trump tried to overturn election defeat, new book I Alone Can Fix This says Shortly before the deadly attack on the US Capitol on 6 January, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Gen Mark Milley, told aides the US was facing a "Reichstag moment” because Donald Trump was preaching "the gospel of the Führer”, according to an eagerly awaited book about Trump’s last year in office. The excerpts from I Alone Can Fix This, by Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker, were reported by New York magazine on Wednesday. The authors’ employer, the Washington Post, published the first extract from the book a day earlier. It will be published next week. Milley’s invocation of Germany under the Third Reich follows a report in another book, Frankly, We Did Win This Election, by Michael C Bender, that Trump told his chief of staff, John Kelly, "Hitler did a lot of good things”. Trump denies having made the remark. Leonnig and Rucker report that Milley spoke to an "old friend”, who warned the general that Trump and his allies were trying to "overturn the government” in response to Joe Biden’s election victory, which Trump falsely maintains was the result of electoral fraud. Milley is reported to have said: "They may try, but they’re not going to Fing succeed. You can’t do this without the military. You can’t do this without the CIA and the FBI. We’re the guys with guns.” Reportedly calling Trump supporters "Brownshirts”, a reference to paramilitaries who served Hitler in Germany in the 1930s, Milley is reported to have believed long before the Capitol attack that "Trump was stoking unrest, possibly in hopes of an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act and call out the military”. Milley notoriously appeared with Trump in Lafayette Square in Washington in June 2020, after anti-racism protesters had been aggressively cleared and as Trump walked to a church to stage a photo op with a Bible. The general apologised for that incident. It has been widely reported that he resisted Trump’s efforts then to invoke the Insurrection Act and crack down on the protests. Milley’s "Reichstag moment” remark refers to a fire at the German parliament which the NSDAPs used to consolidate their authoritarian rule in 1933. Trump’s supporters attacked Congress on 6 January, the day the electoral college results were certified . Five people died. Leonnig and Rucker report that Milley called the attackers "NSDAPs” and, in reference to two far-right groups, said "they’re boogaloo boys, they’re Proud Boys”. "These are the same people we fought in [the second world war],” he reportedly said. According to New York magazine, the authors also report that Milley, who made headlines and stoked rightwing ire last month by defending teaching about historic racism in army educational establishments, met former first lady Michelle Obama at the Capitol on 20 January, the day Biden was inaugurated. "No one has a bigger smile today than I do,” Milley reportedly said. "You can’t see it under my mask but I do.” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/14/donald-trump-reichstag-moment-general-mark-milley-book
July 15, 20214 yr Trump would have loved to pull off a coup, but he couldn’t get enough of his lackeys into key spots in time.
July 15, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Trump would have loved to pull off a coup, but he couldn’t get enough of his lackeys into key spots in time. We are extremely lucky that he proved to be the dumbest authoritarian in modern history. The worry now should be that he has primed a nation of useful idiots to be effectively used by a far more capable individual. Donnie was just a wannabe.
July 15, 20214 yr Edgy posters on the subforum of an unaffiliated football team message board: Trump is a fascist. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff: Trump is a fascist just sayin’
July 15, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Edgy posters on the subforum of an unaffiliated football team message board: Trump is a fascist. The Chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff: Trump is a fascist just sayin’ I wish I could go back and quote posts from the Trump thread in 2016. I was calling him a fascist from day one and warning of all the eerie parallels to NSDAP Germany. They laughed and laughed, made fun of me, and laughed some more. I don't think half of those posters are even here any more, but some are. Damnit, I'm petty and want to rub it in!
July 15, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Edgy posters on the subforum of an unaffiliated football team message board: Trump is a fascist. The Chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff: Trump is a fascist just sayin’ And yet millions of people will vote for him a third time......
July 15, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I wish I could go back and quote posts from the Trump thread in 2016. I was calling him a fascist from day one and warning of all the eerie parallels to NSDAP Germany. They laughed and laughed, made fun of me, and laughed some more. I don't think half of those posters are even here any more, but some are. Damnit, I'm petty and want to rub it in! Oh, I was saying it too. And after Charlottesville I started calling him a white supremacist. It was a pretty unpopular opinion on here at the time.
July 15, 20214 yr Btw, for folks who aren’t aware the Reichstag was the German legislature which Hitler got rid of in 1933. So the "Reichstag moment” Milley was concerned about was Trump trying to take control of the government to stay in power. January 6th anyone???
July 15, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Oh, I was saying it too. And after Charlottesville I started calling him a white supremacist. It was a pretty unpopular opinion on here at the time. The sad thing was that it wasn't even hard to figure out. If you just knew a little bit of history and actually gave a damn, all of the warning signs were there in plain sight. The level of ignorance in this country, and the degree to which most of it is willful, was really a revelation. It wasn't so much surprising to me that Trump came along. In a way, I guess we were overdue for an authoritarian movement and lucky to really not have to deal with someone of his ilk at any point in our history so far. But the way that people ignored it and downplayed it was truly shocking and downright disheartening. I thought we'd see more of a response, especially later in his presidency when the fascism of it all became so blatant. For the most part, if people weren't being dismissive they were sticking their heads in the sand. We've been getting dumber for awhile, but the extent of our intellectual decay as a nation is truly staggering.
July 15, 20214 yr 32 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: The sad thing was that it wasn't even hard to figure out. If you just knew a little bit of history and actually gave a damn, all of the warning signs were there in plain sight. The level of ignorance in this country, and the degree to which most of it is willful, was really a revelation. It wasn't so much surprising to me that Trump came along. In a way, I guess we were overdue for an authoritarian movement and lucky to really not have to deal with someone of his ilk at any point in our history so far. But the way that people ignored it and downplayed it was truly shocking and downright disheartening. I thought we'd see more of a response, especially later in his presidency when the fascism of it all became so blatant. For the most part, if people weren't being dismissive they were sticking their heads in the sand. We've been getting dumber for awhile, but the extent of our intellectual decay as a nation is truly staggering. It’s taught me a lot about taking American democracy for granted. In the last 150 years there hasn’t been a lot of doubt about the strength of American democracy. Trump’s presidency showed that it’s way more tenuous than I thought. Milley being that concerned about Trump is really frightening.
July 15, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Paul852 said: And yet millions of people will vote for him a third time......
July 15, 20214 yr Quote There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an "impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex”.
July 15, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, Paul852 said: And yet millions of people will vote for him a third time...... Yep. Even people on here. They'll say they won't vote for him again, but we all know they will once it really comes down to it.
July 15, 20214 yr 11 hours ago, Paul852 said: And yet millions of people will vote for him a third time...... you cant fix stupid. seriously, if you voted for him the 1st time, hoping he "would be" that DC outsider that could actually drain the swamp, error on your part. if you voted for him a 2nd time, you've allowed yourself to be convinced that half the country is your enemy and are a pawn in a richman's game. if you would vote for him 3rd time, you truly are a slurpee. a person who has latched onto the newest cult, one that may top scientology.
July 15, 20214 yr Golden shower boy. Kremlin Leak Appears to Confirm Existence of Trump ‘Kompromat’ For years, there have been whispers that the Russian government holds compromising materials on Donald Trump. Now, an alleged leak from the heart of the Kremlin appears to show them boasting about "kompromat.” The supposed leak obtained by The Guardian reportedly claims that President Vladimir Putin personally approved a nefarious plan to throw Russia’s support behind Trump’s 2016 campaign. The document states that Putin, his spy chiefs, and top ministers agreed that a victory for a "mentally unstable” Trump would permanently weaken the United States.
July 15, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said: you cant fix stupid. seriously, if you voted for him the 1st time, hoping he "would be" that DC outsider that could actually drain the swamp, error on your part. if you voted for him a 2nd time, you've allowed yourself to be convinced that half the country is your enemy and are a pawn in a richman's game. if you would vote for him 3rd time, you truly are a slurpee. a person who has latched onto the newest cult, one that may top scientology. This your second warning, white man...
July 15, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: This your second warning, white man... easy there bud, i'm not one of those poors.
July 15, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, Lloyd said: I called this years ago. The second Trump lost he would be of no use to Putin anymore and they'd torpedo him through leaks in an effort to make his supporters look like complete fools. Once his base was completely alienated and marginalized in society they'd start to radicalize. The goal from the beginning was to create instability from inside. We're pretty much there. Congrats, Trumpers. You got played by the shirtless USSR relic on horseback.
July 15, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: This crap is wild WASHINGTON – The highest-ranking U.S. officer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, and other top military leaders made informal plans to stop a coup by former President Donald Trump and his allies in the run-up to the 2020 presidential election, according to excerpts from a new book "I Alone Can Fix It," written by Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker, describes how Milley and others feared Trump might take unconstitutional actions should he lose. CNN first reported on this excerpt. The top brass was so disturbed by Trump's rhetoric casting doubt on the legitimacy of the election before it was held that the leaders discussed contingency plans for how to thwart any illegal power grabs by the president, including how and when to resign in protest over his actions. "They may try, but they're not going to f****** succeed," Milley told his officers, according to Leonnig and Rucker. "You can't do this without the military. You can't do this without the CIA and the FBI. We're the guys with the guns." Milley's spokesman, Army Col. Dave Butler, declined Thursday to comment on the excerpts. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff – an advisory body to the president – was planning for a confrontation with Trump over what Milley saw as the former president's stoking of tensions in an attempt to lay the groundwork for a coup. "This is a Reichstag moment," Milley told his deputies in the days before Jan. 6, a reference to the 1933 burning of the German parliament that helped usher in the NSDAP regime in Germany, Leonnig and Rucker write. "The gospel of the Führer."
July 15, 20214 yr 49 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Golden shower boy. Kremlin Leak Appears to Confirm Existence of Trump ‘Kompromat’ For years, there have been whispers that the Russian government holds compromising materials on Donald Trump. Now, an alleged leak from the heart of the Kremlin appears to show them boasting about "kompromat.” The supposed leak obtained by The Guardian reportedly claims that President Vladimir Putin personally approved a nefarious plan to throw Russia’s support behind Trump’s 2016 campaign. The document states that Putin, his spy chiefs, and top ministers agreed that a victory for a "mentally unstable” Trump would permanently weaken the United States. This is SO shocking and absolutely unbelievable!
July 15, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, downundermike said: Come on, If this is true then why wasn't sufficient security measures taken on 6-Jan.?
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