March 18, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: He has degrees from Yale and Harvard. He’s not stupid, he’s just a virtue signaling wanna-be authoritarian. Also married a hottie. Points for that as well.
March 18, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: that's why I said "in many ways he is [smart]", but I'm disagreeing that his political strategy here is smart. it's impatient, not smart. I mean, that's just like - my opinion man.. but I see his approach here as stupid. it's at best a path to win the Republican nomination, but right now things that are required to win the Republican nomination can be toxic in the general. My contingency on this being a smart strategy is if he sits it out this cycle. Otherwise, it’s stupid because Trump will pound him into oblivion.
March 18, 20232 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: My contingency on this being a smart strategy is if he sits it out this cycle. Otherwise, it’s stupid because Trump will pound him into oblivion. Ok. I mean, I think he's 100% running but I could be wrong. I stated above that the smart strategy would be to target 2028, where the main challenge is to remain relevant in the Republican party for two year past his term ending as FL governor.
March 18, 20232 yr 22 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I know a lot of people think DeSantis is somehow smart, and in many ways he is. But I think his approach here is a total loser, and he's blowing his real chance which would be in 2028. If he was actually smart he'd let the party stay in the wilderness this cycle and focus on how to remain relevant for another four years. This is the shrewd move (and honestly also the logical move) but folks will also call it cowardly. Nobody in that party is beating Trump and if by some act of God they do, they’re getting trounced in the general.
March 18, 20232 yr 21 minutes ago, Thrive said: This is the shrewd move (and honestly also the logical move) but folks will also call it cowardly. Nobody in that party is beating Trump and if by some act of God they do, they’re getting trounced in the general. Agree on the first part but completely disagree on the second. Almost anyone would have a better chance in the general than Trump, who’s a guaranteed loser.
March 18, 20232 yr 56 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I don’t think DeSantis is running. He’s too smart for that. Can't imagine him not running. He has the spotlight now. 2028 could be a whole different political landscape.
March 18, 20232 yr 21 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Agree on the first part but completely disagree on the second. Almost anyone would have a better chance in the general than Trump, who’s a guaranteed loser. I find it hard to believe that an individual that defeated Trump in the primaries would have the support of Trump and his followers in the general. Without that support, such individual has no chance to defeat an incumbent President.
March 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Arthur Jackson said: Now you're just being gratuitously racist. You made that word up
March 18, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Boogyman said: You made that word up Now? It's origins date to proto-Indo-European, then proto-Germanic, then middle English through the Saxon invasions of Britannia after the fall of the Roman Empire, then Old English*. It's fairly ubiquitous in modern English and one of the oldest words in our language. Did I make it up? I think you give me too much credit, mon ami. Now stick that in your pfeife and smoke it! Words/terms I have coined: - quilty - mingeophilia - metacartesian *not the malt liquor
March 18, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, Thrive said: I find it hard to believe that an individual that defeated Trump in the primaries would have the support of Trump and his followers in the general. Without that support, such individual has no chance to defeat an incumbent President. Without the support of independents, no candidate from either party has a chance in the general and Trump has no shot with them or even moderate conservatives for that matter. I have an easier time believing that his base would vote for a more normal Republican like they have many times in the past than I do that centrist voters would pull the lever for him when they’ve already proven they won’t. And that was before he tried to overthrow the government.
March 18, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: Now? It's origins date to proto-Indo-European, then proto-Germanic, then middle English through the Saxon invasions of Britannia after the fall of the Roman Empire, then Old English*. It's fairly ubiquitous in modern English and one of the oldest words in our language. Did I make it up? I think you give me too much credit, mon ami. Now stick that in your pfeife and smoke it! Words/terms I have coined: - quilty - mingeophilia - metacartesian *not the malt liquor He meant "you're" Some people don't believe contractions are words. Probably the same people who want to pry the oxford comma from my cold, dead hands.
March 18, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Without the support of independents, no candidate from either party has a chance in the general and Trump has no shot with them or even moderate conservatives for that matter. I have an easier time believing that his base would vote for a more normal Republican like they have many times in the past than I do that centrist voters would pull the lever for him when they’ve already proven they won’t. And that was before he tried to overthrow the government. If Trump actually loses to someone he's going to take enough of his supporters with him that it won't matter how many independents go with the Republican. He'll be trashing DeSantis or whoever constantly, and while Fox and co. will do their damndest Trump's hold is too strong in this 20-30% of Republicans. Too many of that group will just sit out.
March 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Lloyd said: Can't imagine him not running. He has the spotlight now. 2028 could be a whole different political landscape. 2028 will almost certainly be a more friendly landscape for him than 2024. I mean obviously anything can happen. Florida could break off and sink into the ocean (fingers crossed) or he could get caught in bed with a teenage boy, but absent a black swan event, his odds will improve by default when Trump’s out of the way.
March 18, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: If Trump actually loses to someone he's going to take enough of his supporters with him that it won't matter how many independents go with the Republican. He'll be trashing DeSantis or whoever constantly, and while Fox and co. will do their damndest Trump's hold is too strong in this 20-30% of Republicans. Too many of that group will just sit out. Probably. But as history’s shown, above all else, Republicans hate Democrats. Even more than they love Trump.
March 18, 20232 yr 39 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: Now? It's origins date to proto-Indo-European, then proto-Germanic, then middle English through the Saxon invasions of Britannia after the fall of the Roman Empire, then Old English*. It's fairly ubiquitous in modern English and one of the oldest words in our language. Did I make it up? I think you give me too much credit, mon ami. Now stick that in your pfeife and smoke it! Words/terms I have coined: - quilty - mingeophilia - metacartesian *not the malt liquor No, the other word. Duh.
March 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: He meant "you're" Some people don't believe contractions are words. Probably the same people who want to pry the oxford comma from my cold, dead hands. No, the other word. Geeze.
March 18, 20232 yr 40 minutes ago, Boogyman said: No, the other word. Duh. 3 minutes ago, Boogyman said: No, the other word. Geeze. Come on, is it "duh" or geeze"? You're being gratuitously obtuse.
March 18, 20232 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: Come on, is it "duh" or geeze"? You're being gratuitously obtuse. Words. Lol.
March 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: If Trump actually loses to someone he's going to take enough of his supporters with him that it won't matter how many independents go with the Republican. He'll be trashing DeSantis or whoever constantly, and while Fox and co. will do their damndest Trump's hold is too strong in this 20-30% of Republicans. Too many of that group will just sit out. Exactly what will happen
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