March 22, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, eaglegenius said: Just watch how easily American sheeple are swayed. Must be true, since you clearly are sheepling up to Trump.
March 22, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, BFit said: a person is smart. people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.... I know, but there's a defeatism to the way the right talks about Trump. It's not out of everyone's hands. It's completely in the hands of the Republican voters whether or not they want to move on from Trump or stay in the car with him while he drives it off the cliff again. And to stay with this guy is the height of stupidity.
March 22, 20232 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: I know, but there's a defeatism to the way the right talks about Trump. It's not out of everyone's hands. It's completely in the hands of the Republican voters whether or not they want to move on from Trump or stay in the car with him while he drives it off the cliff again. And to stay with this guy is the height of stupidity. maybe its the negedelphian in me, but i can see him winning the primary and then coning people into voting for him again...
March 22, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Shepard Wong said: I know. i just didnt want to take credit for the great agent Ks work
March 22, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, BFit said: i just didnt want to take credit for the great agent Ks work k for krasner ? i mean he did prove voters are f'ng stupid.
March 22, 20232 yr 36 minutes ago, Boogyman said: I prefer the NY prosecutors do their job and the Georgia prosecutors do theirs. If they feel a crime was committed and they have the evidence to prove it, they should do their jobs and act on it. Yeah, you've made that clear. Answer this for me. If Trump is arrested, charged, and convicted for the Stormy crap does it lower or raise the risk that Trump wins the nomination and then we end up with another Jan 6 type of cluster F dumpster sheet fire down the road at some point? Like when he then loses the general again. What does anyone get out of it other than some entertainment watching Trump get slapped on the wrist? Stormy has already gotten FAR more value out of all the publicity, etc. than she ever deserved and we end up spending a ton of taxpayer money and tying up prosecutor and court time that could be used for more important things.
March 22, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Yeah, you've made that clear. Answer this for me. If Trump is arrested, charged, and convicted for the Stormy crap does it lower or raise the risk that Trump wins the nomination and then we end up with another Jan 6 type of cluster F dumpster sheet fire down the road at some point? Like when he then loses the general again. What does anyone get out of it other than some entertainment watching Trump get slapped on the wrist? Stormy has already gotten FAR more value out of all the publicity, etc. than she ever deserved and we end up spending a ton of taxpayer money and tying up prosecutor and court time that could be used for more important things. I don't think it moves the needle either way. The people who are going to vote for him will anyway. The cult being fired up over him being indicted is irrelevant to him winning an election IMO.
March 22, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Yeah, you've made that clear. Answer this for me. If Trump is arrested, charged, and convicted for the Stormy crap does it lower or raise the risk that Trump wins the nomination and then we end up with another Jan 6 type of cluster F dumpster sheet fire down the road at some point? Like when he then loses the general again. What does anyone get out of it other than some entertainment watching Trump get slapped on the wrist? Stormy has already gotten FAR more value out of all the publicity, etc. than she ever deserved and we end up spending a ton of taxpayer money and tying up prosecutor and court time that could be used for more important things. He's gonna be charged in GA anyway, so it's largely irrelevant whether this particular charge raises or lowers the risk of him winning the nomination.
March 22, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: I don't think it moves the needle either way. The people who are going to vote for him will anyway. The cult being fired up over him being indicted is irrelevant to him winning an election IMO. Ok, we disagree.
March 22, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: He's gonna be charged in GA anyway, so it's largely irrelevant whether this particular charge raises or lowers the risk of him winning the nomination. No is isn't. I think this charge raises it on its own even if the charge in GA goes forward. Let's say I'm wrong, what do we gain if things move forward in NY?
March 22, 20232 yr Just now, DrPhilly said: No is isn't. I think this charge raises it on its own even if the charge in GA goes forward. Let's say I'm wrong, what do we gain if things move forward in NY? Who's we? The country? When people commit crimes they're arrested and pay a legal price for them. Who gains something from that process playing out?
March 22, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Who's we? The country? When people commit crimes they're arrested and pay a legal price for them. Who gains something from that process playing out? Yes, who? The DA? Stormy? It is only a slap on the wrist for Trump, means nothing. Just gives him more publicity.
March 22, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: No is isn't. I think this charge raises it on its own even if the charge in GA goes forward. Let's say I'm wrong, what do we gain if things move forward in NY? I don't look at it as gain or loss. If someone breaks the law and the evidence is there, try them. Doesn't matter who it is.
March 22, 20232 yr Just now, Boogyman said: I don't look at it as gain or loss. If someone breaks the law and the evidence is there, try them. Doesn't matter who it is. Well, ok. That principle gets broken all the time all over the place and for all kinds of reasons.
March 22, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Well, ok. That principle gets broken all the time all over the place and for all kinds of reasons. It shouldn't. Obviously I'm discussing this particular case because it's a hot topic.
March 22, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Yes, who? The DA? Stormy? It is only a slap on the wrist for Trump, means nothing. Just gives him more publicity. Like Boogy's saying, you commit a crime, you pay a legal price. It's just how it goes. Sucks if you're a criminal but he should try not breaking the law. The overwhelming thrust of the complaining about this seems to be that this helps him get the nomination, but that's not the fault of the legal system, that's the fault of the Republican voters. If they're so stupid that one of their candidates getting indicted for fraud helps his chances in the primary then they deserve to lose in the general again, which of course they will because everyone but them hates Trump with or without the indictment.
March 22, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: He's gonna be charged in GA anyway, so it's largely irrelevant whether this particular charge raises or lowers the risk of him winning the nomination. I believe the Federal Crimes would prevent him from holding public office ever again. Sedition and Espionage.
March 22, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Boogyman said: It shouldn't. Obviously I'm discussing this particular case because it's a hot topic. So all laws all the time with no regard for context?
March 22, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Like Boogy's saying, you commit a crime, you pay a legal price. It's just how it goes. Sucks if you're a criminal but he should try not breaking the law. The overwhelming thrust of the complaining about this seems to be that this helps him get the nomination, but that's not the fault of the legal system, that's the fault of the Republican voters. If they're so stupid that one of their candidates getting indicted for fraud helps his chances in the primary then they deserve to lose in the general again, which of course they will because everyone but them hates Trump with or without the indictment. Ok, let's move to my 2nd point. What does anyone gain?
March 22, 20232 yr Just now, jsdarkstar said: I believe the Federal Crimes would prevent him from holding public office ever again. Sedition and Espionage. They'd have to play out and secure a conviction before the election for that to matter, which I seriously doubt will happen. He'll delay because that's what he does and meanwhile the Feds took years to talk about it before even starting their investigation.
March 22, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: Ok, let's move to my 2nd point. What does anyone gain? Literally anyone could ask this same question when they're charged with a crime. "Your Honor, the crime was already committed, what's the gain in charging me for it now?"
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