June 14, 20232 yr It was a great day for America. A wealthy former president, being called to account for serious crimes, he treats like no big deal. It was simple. They had to resort to legal means to get him to return documents, and then he played games and tried to keep them. He has rarely had to suffer consequences. Now those chickens are coming home to roost. He can't get a good lawyer, since he tends to not pay people promptly and often, at all. He also has a tendency to turn on his lawyers, and pretty much everyone else, and throw them under the bus. The man is incapable of taking responsibility. Yet we still have millions of idiots willing to elect him a second time.
June 14, 20232 yr Ex-Federal Prosecutor Says Trump's Big Speech Was 'Just A Straight-Out Confession' Former federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann said Donald Trump’s speech on Tuesday night defending himself after he was arraigned on 37 federal charges could come back to haunt him during the trial. "Part of what he said is just a straight-out confession,” Weissmann told MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell. "It’s not a defense. It’s a confession.” Speaking at his country club in Bedminster, New Jersey, hours after pleading not guilty, Trump told supporters he had "every right under the Presidential Records Act” to keep the sensitive documents found at his Mar-a-Lago home during an FBI search last summer. O’Donnell later asked what, specifically, was a confession in Trump’s speech. "When you are charged with the illegal retention ― the possession, the illegal possession of the documents ― it is not a good idea to say, ‘Hey, you want to know why I took these? Because I could,’” he said. "That is not a defense to that charge. That is an admission to the charge.” Weissmann, who was part of Robert Mueller’s investigation team, also noted that even if Trump himself doesn’t take the stand during the trial, these and other public statements will be admissible in court.
June 14, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Ex-Federal Prosecutor Says Trump's Big Speech Was 'Just A Straight-Out Confession' Former federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann said Donald Trump’s speech on Tuesday night defending himself after he was arraigned on 37 federal charges could come back to haunt him during the trial. "Part of what he said is just a straight-out confession,” Weissmann told MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell. "It’s not a defense. It’s a confession.” Speaking at his country club in Bedminster, New Jersey, hours after pleading not guilty, Trump told supporters he had "every right under the Presidential Records Act” to keep the sensitive documents found at his Mar-a-Lago home during an FBI search last summer. O’Donnell later asked what, specifically, was a confession in Trump’s speech. "When you are charged with the illegal retention ― the possession, the illegal possession of the documents ― it is not a good idea to say, ‘Hey, you want to know why I took these? Because I could,’” he said. "That is not a defense to that charge. That is an admission to the charge.” Weissmann, who was part of Robert Mueller’s investigation team, also noted that even if Trump himself doesn’t take the stand during the trial, these and other public statements will be admissible in court. Stable genius bruh
June 14, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: Ex-Federal Prosecutor Says Trump's Big Speech Was 'Just A Straight-Out Confession' Former federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann said Donald Trump’s speech on Tuesday night defending himself after he was arraigned on 37 federal charges could come back to haunt him during the trial. "Part of what he said is just a straight-out confession,” Weissmann told MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell. "It’s not a defense. It’s a confession.” Speaking at his country club in Bedminster, New Jersey, hours after pleading not guilty, Trump told supporters he had "every right under the Presidential Records Act” to keep the sensitive documents found at his Mar-a-Lago home during an FBI search last summer. O’Donnell later asked what, specifically, was a confession in Trump’s speech. "When you are charged with the illegal retention ― the possession, the illegal possession of the documents ― it is not a good idea to say, ‘Hey, you want to know why I took these? Because I could,’” he said. "That is not a defense to that charge. That is an admission to the charge.” Weissmann, who was part of Robert Mueller’s investigation team, also noted that even if Trump himself doesn’t take the stand during the trial, these and other public statements will be admissible in court. Watching a bit of the coverage last night, it began to play out in my mind how the next 12-18 months will play out in this case: 1. Will this case go to trial? 2. Will this case result in a conviction on all or most of the felony counts? 3. If 'yes' to the first two, does Trump serve any serious jail time? The fact that most people seem to believe the answer to #3 will be 'No', I begin to wonder if it isn't inevitable that Trump's lawyers look at him and say "you're going to lose this case and it might result in spending the rest of your life in prison; it's time for The Art of The Plea Deal" -- that advice could come from the lawyers or his kids. If there is a plea deal offered, is there any circumstance where the feds offer or accept a deal? Who makes that final decision? (Garland, I assume). If a plea deal is reached, what would you need to see as the conditions? -- Trump publicly acknowledges he willingly and wrongly took classified documents (provides signed statements to that effect) -- Trump agrees never to run for any elected office again? -- Trump agrees not to publicly disparage any government agencies in future, verbally or in writing? Failing any of those three conditions at any point breaches his plea agreement and he goes to prison. Does Trump gamble that a Republican candidate wins the 2024 election and pardons him? (I can't see Biden or any other Democrat President pardoning him). Does he gamble he can win election heading up the ticket in spite of his 2020 loss? Does he gamble that he gets a crooked judge or jury that will not convict him?
June 14, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: Watching a bit of the coverage last night, it began to play out in my mind how the next 12-18 months will play out in this case: 1. Will this case go to trial? 2. Will this case result in a conviction on all or most of the felony counts? 3. If 'yes' to the first two, does Trump serve any serious jail time? The fact that most people seem to believe the answer to #3 will be 'No', I begin to wonder if it isn't inevitable that Trump's lawyers look at him and say "you're going to lose this case and it might result in spending the rest of your life in prison; it's time for The Art of The Plea Deal" -- that advice could come from the lawyers or his kids. If there is a plea deal offered, is there any circumstance where the feds offer or accept a deal? Who makes that final decision? (Garland, I assume). If a plea deal is reached, what would you need to see as the conditions? -- Trump publicly acknowledges he willingly and wrongly took classified documents (provides signed statements to that effect) -- Trump agrees never to run for any elected office again? -- Trump agrees not to publicly disparage any government agencies in future, verbally or in writing? Failing any of those three conditions at any point breaches his plea agreement and he goes to prison. Does Trump gamble that a Republican candidate wins the 2024 election and pardons him? (I can't see Biden or any other Democrat President pardoning him). Does he gamble he can win election heading up the ticket in spite of his 2020 loss? Does he gamble that he gets a crooked judge or jury that will not convict him? It all depends on the Judge. If she shows her bias again the outcome could be in jeopardy. If she acts like a typical judge then yes, Yes the case will go to trial Yes he will be convicted. Yes he will do time. If convicted on all counts he faces up to 400 years in prison. Jack Smith will not offer a Plea Deal. Trump's lawyers would be right to try and get a deal because they have no defense to the charges. No evidence, no witnesses. Trump wants to pardon himself, a constitutional crises. I assume that Scotus will rule against that 9-0. You can't be the judge and jury over your own crimes. So anti American.
June 14, 20232 yr Trump won't offer a plea deal because he wants to drag this out as long as he can. This is a fundraiser for him.
June 14, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: Watching a bit of the coverage last night, it began to play out in my mind how the next 12-18 months will play out in this case: 1. Will this case go to trial? 2. Will this case result in a conviction on all or most of the felony counts? 3. If 'yes' to the first two, does Trump serve any serious jail time? The fact that most people seem to believe the answer to #3 will be 'No', I begin to wonder if it isn't inevitable that Trump's lawyers look at him and say "you're going to lose this case and it might result in spending the rest of your life in prison; it's time for The Art of The Plea Deal" -- that advice could come from the lawyers or his kids. If there is a plea deal offered, is there any circumstance where the feds offer or accept a deal? Who makes that final decision? (Garland, I assume). If a plea deal is reached, what would you need to see as the conditions? -- Trump publicly acknowledges he willingly and wrongly took classified documents (provides signed statements to that effect) -- Trump agrees never to run for any elected office again? -- Trump agrees not to publicly disparage any government agencies in future, verbally or in writing? Failing any of those three conditions at any point breaches his plea agreement and he goes to prison. Does Trump gamble that a Republican candidate wins the 2024 election and pardons him? (I can't see Biden or any other Democrat President pardoning him). Does he gamble he can win election heading up the ticket in spite of his 2020 loss? Does he gamble that he gets a crooked judge or jury that will not convict him? You think Donald Trump will do the logical thing, especially when it requires him to admit fault? Have you been sleeping since 2015?
June 14, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, vikas83 said: You think Donald Trump will do the logical thing, especially when it requires him to admit fault? Have you been sleeping since 2015? Affirmative:
June 14, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, toolg said: Trump won't offer a plea deal because he wants to drag this out as long as he can. This is a fundraiser for him.
June 14, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, toolg said: these dopes will go broke handing their paychecks over to this dipsheet and then blame the libs when the car gets repo'd.
June 14, 20232 yr 49 minutes ago, toolg said: It's a cult. I'm gonna put this in here before the band sues the Trump Campaign to quit playing their songs at rallies:
June 15, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, Alphagrand said: I'm gonna put this in here before the band sues the Trump Campaign to quit playing their songs at rallies: side note; i saw these guys live at the spectrum with tesla and unfortunately, great white. anyway, the cult was amazing.
June 15, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: side note; i saw these guys live at the spectrum with tesla and unfortunately, great white. anyway, the cult was amazing. once bitten twice shy
June 15, 20232 yr 21 hours ago, toolg said: Trump won't offer a plea deal because he wants to drag this out as long as he can. This is a fundraiser for him. Reported last night that Trump's lawyer, Chris Kise, recommended Trump take a plea deal, after the Warrant and Trump rejected it. Trump will end up in prison because he doesn't listen to his lawyers.
June 15, 20232 yr Biden should be out there using Trump's words against him. That's exactly what Trump does in his speeches. Donald Trump is the most corrupt President in U.S. History. If Joe Biden isn't elected President we won't have a country anymore. The fascists must be defeated or this country is going to Hell. Donald Trump doesn't believe in democracy or the rule of law. etc. etc.
June 15, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: 37 felony charges seems like a lot, right? it's just more proof the deep state is out to get Honest Donny.
June 15, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: 37 felony charges seems like a lot, right? Don't forget about the 34 Counts in NYC. I am particularly looking forward to the RICO charges in Georgia. Trump is going to have a host of Co-Defendants. Rudi being one of them
June 15, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, toolg said: Trump promises something, then doesn't deliver. Sound familiar? Charge him with Theft!
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