December 1, 20231 yr 8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: As far as I was able to tell watching Trump's lawyer's arguments in front of the Georgia trial judge, she seemed to be arguing that Congress should have authority to override the electors at the state level and appoint their own electors. Wow, what a ridiculous legal argument; Congress is, by definition, political and partisan -- and the majority dictates by sheer numbers. State's lawyer just said "that makes no sense!" ... so he seems to have gotten the same understanding that I took. If that were the case, then thousand of lawsuits could be filed and then Congress would have the power to decide the electors they want. Stripping states of the power. Makes no sense. The electoral college should be abolished.
December 4, 20231 yr 11 hours ago, mr_hunt said: When you accidentally say what you really think but aren't meant to say... Coincidentally its one of the few times you will see him on a mic not lying
December 4, 20231 yr On 12/1/2023 at 11:58 AM, jsdarkstar said: The electoral college should be abolished. Nope
December 4, 20231 yr On 11/30/2023 at 10:15 AM, DiPros said: WHEN will his supporters dump him? Never. The Manson family would never replace Charles Manson. Jonestown would never replace Jim Jones.
December 5, 20231 yr Author lincoln project eviscerated cheeto by showing clips of him being a big dummy: so cheeto accused them of using A.I.
December 5, 20231 yr You'd better not vote You'd better not think You'd be better off with chlorine to drink Santa Drumpf is coming to grift
December 5, 20231 yr Special Counsel Jack Smith plans to introduce as evidence election fraud claims former President Donald Trump made during his successful 2016 campaign, new court filings show. Smith filed Tuesday a disclosure notice detailing historic evidence the lead prosecutor plans to introduce in the Washington D.C. federal court case against Trump, court records show. "These statements sowed mistrust in the results of the presidential election and laid the foundation for the defendant’s criminal efforts," Smith argues. "In addition to this intrinsic evidence of false statements about the election, the Government will offer evidence reflecting the defendant’s historical record of making such claims." "The defendant’s false claims about the 2012 and 2016 elections are admissible because they demonstrate the defendant’s common plan of falsely blaming fraud for election results he does not like,” Smith writes, "as well as his motive, intent, and plan to obstruct the certification of the 2020 election results and illegitimately retain power.” "Of course there is large scale fraud happening on and before election day,” Trump wrote, according to the filing. "Why do Republican leaders deny what is going on? So naive!” That same month, at a presidential debate moderated by Fox News’ Chris Wallace, Trump was asked if he would accept the election results. Smith seeks to submit Trump's response. "There is a tradition in this country — in fact, one of the prides of this country — is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how hard-fought a campaign is, that at the end of the campaign the loser concedes to the winner,” Wallace said. "Not saying that you’re necessarily going to be the loser or the winner, but that the loser concedes to the winner and that the country comes together in part for the good of the country. Are you saying you’re not prepared now to commit to that principle?” "What I’m saying is that I will tell you at the time,” Trump replied. "I’ll keep you in suspense. OK?” Smith also plans to include voter fraud claims from 2012, when former President Barack Obama defeated his conservative challenger, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT), and a disturbing media interview in September 2020 when a journalist once again asked Trump if he would commit himself to the peaceful transition of power. "Well, we’re going to have to see what happens,” Trump replied, according to the filing. "There won’t be a transfer, frankly; there’ll be a continuation. The ballots are out of control. You know it.” In his Tuesday filing, the prosecutor argues Trump's election fraud comments prove motive and intent to overturn the election he lost to President Joe Biden. "The defendant’s false claims about the 2012 and 2016 elections are admissible because they demonstrate the defendant’s common plan of falsely blaming fraud for election results he does not like,” Smith writes, "as well as his motive, intent, and plan to obstruct the certification of the 2020 election results and illegitimately retain power.”
December 6, 20231 yr Donald Trump mocked questions about authoritarianism on Tuesday, saying he would be a dictator only on "day one," and then he's going to close the border and get to drilling. "After that, I'm not a dictator, OK?" the Republican presidential frontrunner told Fox News host Sean Hannity before a very friendly crowd in Davenport, Iowa. ______________ Yes, history is littered with examples of dictators who gave power back willingly. No doubt his morons are lapping this up.
December 6, 20231 yr Author 34 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Donald Trump mocked questions about authoritarianism on Tuesday, saying he would be a dictator only on "day one," and then he's going to close the border and get to drilling. "After that, I'm not a dictator, OK?" the Republican presidential frontrunner told Fox News host Sean Hannity before a very friendly crowd in Davenport, Iowa. ______________ Yes, history is littered with examples of dictators who gave power back willingly. No doubt his morons are lapping this up. the vid:
December 6, 20231 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: AKA The Brown Shirts Trump's secret police Brown Shirts will be made up of pardoned Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
December 7, 20231 yr On 12/3/2023 at 8:44 AM, mr_hunt said: On 12/3/2023 at 9:32 AM, Dave Moss said: We know well?
December 7, 20231 yr 18 hours ago, mr_hunt said: Again, media: here's why this is bad for Biden You CANNOT claim to love this country and be ok with this, full stop.
December 7, 20231 yr 10 Wisconsin fake electors acknowledge actions were used to overturn 2020 election https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/10-wisconsin-fake-electors-acknowledge-actions-were-used-to-overturn-2020-election/ar-AA1l7ECK Quote Ten Wisconsin Republicans who posed as fake electors for former President Donald Trump have settled a lawsuit and admitted their actions were part of an attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election results, attorneys who filed the case announced Wednesday. The lawsuit was filed against the fake electors by Democratic electors for President Joe Biden, which sought $2.4 million in damages. The fake electors said in a statement Wednesday that they met in the Wisconsin State Capitol to sign paperwork falsely claiming to be electors to be "in compliance with requests from the Trump campaign and Republican Party of Wisconsin." As part of the settlement, the fake electors acknowledged that Biden won the state, withdrew their filings and agreed not to serve as presidential electors in the future or participate in the transmission of such documents again, among other terms. The defendants are also no longer facing paying damages. Oh.
December 7, 20231 yr In compliance with requets from the Trump campaign? So much for those trumpbot talking points that these false electors went rogue and acted alone.
December 7, 20231 yr NY appeals court upholds Judge Engoron’s ruling that Trump committed 'widespread fraud'
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