January 5, 20242 yr 5 hours ago, Dave Moss said: $100 says Dr. Philly is on here tomorrow claiming we need to pardon Trum 5 hours ago, Dave Moss said: Trump has Dr. Philly so pussified that he thinks we shouldn’t have laws anymore. Your reading skills are clearly not those worthy of a university professor. What oppressed minority are you Moss? The straightest path here is to convict Trump as quickly as possible which is the one I am 100% behind. In the meantime, he is "innocent until proven guilty" and that's the point. Vikas got it right. The optimal SCOTUS ruling would be one that rejects Colorado until Trump is convicted.
January 5, 20242 yr Indictment is not conviction. Put Trump in a jail cell and hold him until trial and he can still run as a candidate.
January 5, 20242 yr 3 hours ago, DrPhilly said: Your reading skills are clearly not those worthy of a university professor. What oppressed minority are you Moss? The straightest path here is to convict Trump as quickly as possible which is the one I am 100% behind. In the meantime, he is "innocent until proven guilty" and that's the point. Vikas got it right. The optimal SCOTUS ruling would be one that rejects Colorado until Trump is convicted. It also sounds like you don’t understand how our legal system works. The higher court in Colorado weighed the evidence and said he engaged in insurrection, which is a violation mentioned in the Constitution. There was nothing "innocent” about it!
January 5, 20242 yr 3 hours ago, DrPhilly said: Your reading skills are clearly not those worthy of a university professor. What oppressed minority are you Moss? The straightest path here is to convict Trump as quickly as possible which is the one I am 100% behind. In the meantime, he is "innocent until proven guilty" and that's the point. Vikas got it right. The optimal SCOTUS ruling would be one that rejects Colorado until Trump is convicted. Agreed. Which trial are they watching for this? I'd guess only Atlanta and D.C. matter.
January 5, 20242 yr 15 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: It also sounds like you don’t understand how our legal system works. The higher court in Colorado weighed the evidence and said he engaged in insurrection, which is a violation mentioned in the Constitution. There was nothing "innocent” about it! The Colorado ruling will be thrown out my friend as Trump hasn't had his due process regarding insurrection. When he does he will lose but until such time it isn't Constitutional to reach the verdict the Colorado Supreme Court has reached. We can only wish that the legal system worked faster.
January 5, 20242 yr 12 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Another day, another state, Illinois, this time. Massachusetts too! Interesting times for sure. A process is also underway in Oregon where the State Secretary has said she doesn't have the authority to remove Trump from the ballot.
January 5, 20242 yr I agree trump is innocent until proven guilty as an individual. I also would like to see his indictments play out in court prior to states declaring him ineligible. But "engaged in insurrection” =/= convicted of insurrection. There have been participants of J6 convicted of insurrection, so courts have ruled it was in fact an insurrection that day and trump was without a doubt "engaged” in it.
January 5, 20242 yr Just now, MidMoFo said: I agree trump is innocent until proven guilty as an individual. I also would like to see his indictments play out in court prior to states declaring him ineligible. But "engaged in insurrection” =/= convicted of insurrection. There have been participants of J6 convicted of insurrection, so courts have ruled it was in fact an insurrection that day and trump was without a doubt "engaged” in it. The law is worded in such a way that you don't have to be convicted of insurrection.
January 5, 20242 yr States run elections. They can remove anyone from the ballot if they don’t qualify. Which is why the libertarian candidate is on some state’s ballots, but not all. In this case Trump disqualified himself when he engaged in insurrection. Womp womp
January 5, 20242 yr 20 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: I agree trump is innocent until proven guilty as an individual. I also would like to see his indictments play out in court prior to states declaring him ineligible. But "engaged in insurrection” =/= convicted of insurrection. There have been participants of J6 convicted of insurrection, so courts have ruled it was in fact an insurrection that day and trump was without a doubt "engaged” in it. 19 minutes ago, Toastrel said: The law is worded in such a way that you don't have to be convicted of insurrection. This and this! You can take the "well he hasn't been convicted" argument and stick it up your arse. He obviously "participated" He needs to be disqualified from as many primaries as possible and the SCOTUS needs to uphold the law. So tired of this rhetoric! The more and more the Trump campaign cries and screams of election interference the more people will begin to believe it. Don't go there, Dr Philly. The sooner he's disqualified the better for the USA. We've waited long enough to rid him of our political system.
January 5, 20242 yr The 14th Amendment only requires that you "Engaged" in Insurrection and by only preponderence of the evidence. More likely than not. It doesn't require a conviction. Illinois and Massachusetts. The flood gates are open.
January 5, 20242 yr 10 hours ago, Dave Moss said: $100 says Dr. Philly is on here tomorrow claiming we need to pardon Trump Too bad she can't pardon him for state crimes, including the ones in NY and GA. It's a real shame.
January 5, 20242 yr 10 hours ago, Dave Moss said: How is that dumber than any other Dr. Philly post? Not sure how many times he actually posted today, but c’mon That post is especially egregious. Completely idiotic on so many levels, including the "political opponents" framing because it was a group of republicans that filed the CO suit which he seems thoroughly unaware of, per usual.
January 5, 20242 yr 54 minutes ago, DiPros said: So tired of this rhetoric! The more and more the Trump campaign cries and screams of election interference the more people will begin to believe it. Don't go there, Dr Philly. The sooner he's disqualified the better for the USA. We've waited long enough to rid him of our political system. 100% agree we need to get rid of him. Do that by taking him off the ballot and the rhetoric about interference goes thru the roof.
January 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: 100% agree we need to get rid of him. Do that by taking him off the ballot and the rhetoric about interference goes thru the roof. Oh God no, not...rhetoric
January 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Oh God no, not...rhetoric The term DiPro used mate.
January 5, 20242 yr Author 3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: 100% agree we need to get rid of him. Do that by taking him off the ballot and the rhetoric about interference goes thru the roof. yeah...leave him on the ballots & he'll totally stop talking about the election being rigged!
January 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: The term DiPro used mate. Fair enough. But I'll take rhetoric with no achievable goal over rhetoric with the end goal of installing an autocrat and shredding the Constitution.
January 5, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Fair enough. But I'll take rhetoric with no achievable goal over rhetoric with the end goal of installing an autocrat and shredding the Constitution. The goal won't change just because some states take him off the ballot. Do you actually think he can win a general election?
January 5, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: yeah...leave him on the ballots & he'll totally stop talking about the election being rigged! Said no one
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