January 12, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: That's why I won't be voting for either. If you think the country is doing great vote for Biden but unfortunately for him most of America doesn't think he's doing a great job. Luckily for him he'll be running against Trump who should have no chance to win but, because Biden is so bad, he does have a chance. Either way it's a crap choice and it's sad that neither party has nothing better to offer. Welp if Scotus bans Trump from holding office, Biden will drop out of the race. Trump is the only reason Joe is running.
January 12, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Oh FFS. Any argument for equivalence between these two on any level is preposterously ignorant. Trump literally used every method at his disposal as president to try and bully his way to overturning a secure election in which he lost. He should be DOA. That he is not is owed to mindless lemmings that buy into any argument that Biden is "as worse or worse," which is demonstrably false. I guess we'll find out during the next election. If Biden loses then it means people who previously voted for him thought he did a worse job than Trump. It's not like there isn't a comparison of the 2 and how they perform as president. To say that it's demonstrably false that Biden is "as worse or worse" is just an opinion and many people have a different opinion than you. My opinion is that they are both bad choices.
January 12, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: I guess we'll find out during the next election. Unless Biden wins, then it's because of 3 am ballot dumps, rigged voting machines, bamboo fibers, mainstream media lies, etc.
January 12, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Unless Biden wins, then it's because of 3 am ballot dumps, rigged voting machines, bamboo fibers, mainstream media lies, etc. Won't see me saying any of that. Now if Trump wins we'll see more crying and wailing in the streets as shrieks of "Not my president" echo through the city alleys, and shouts of Russia collusion becomes a thing again. Better get the safe spaces set up ahead of time just in case and companies need to be prepared for the millions taking mental health days off. Both sides have their crazies I guess.
January 12, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I haven't seen a single Trump supporter in this cycle tout one of his policies that they support. Not once. With the primary here, I should make another poll of Trump's policies, see if the cultists have narrowed in on a favorite. Trump doesn't have policies or a platform beyond whatever pops into his decrepit brain at the moment he is speaking. He is completely devoid of principles, a governing philosophy or really even basic logical thought. It's like electing Dory the Fish to be President.
January 12, 20241 yr Both are bad choices is like saying driving without a seat belt and putting a loaded gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger are bad choices. Sure, both are bad. But not equally. Biden has better legislative accomplishments by far. His main drag has been dealing with inflation issues that are 70% not his fault (the spending bill he passed a month in contributed to be sure, but inflation was coming either way due to supply chain and supply/demand mismatches that simply needed to work themselves out). But he also passed CHIPS and the infrastructure bill, and manufacturing is starting to swell. Biden's chances rest heavily on how the economy does the next 9 mos. I'm hopeful and bullish there.
January 12, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: Won't see me saying any of that. Now if Trump wins we'll see more crying and wailing in the streets as shrieks of "Not my president" echo through the city alleys, and shouts of Russia collusion becomes a thing again. Better get the safe spaces set up ahead of time just in case and companies need to be prepared for the millions taking mental health days off. Both sides have their crazies I guess. One side of crazies wears pink vargina hats, the others storm the capitol at the orders of the losing candidate, assault and maim police officers, proceed to commit suicide by cop, and force the Vice President into hiding. Two sides of the same coin, amirite?
January 12, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: Won't see me saying any of that. Now if Trump wins we'll see more crying and wailing in the streets as shrieks of "Not my president" echo through the city alleys, and shouts of Russia collusion becomes a thing again. Better get the safe spaces set up ahead of time just in case and companies need to be prepared for the millions taking mental health days off. Both sides have their crazies I guess. Yeah...except that one side attacked their own Capitol to stop the democratic process. So, your annoyance at the left is a bit different from the democracy-ending urges within the right. Just to clarify, I'm not saying you have to be part of the left. Or even like the left. But you can't "both sides" this....because Biden winning means 4 years of a president you don't like, while Trump winning leaves you questioning whether you'll be able to vote again.
January 12, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Both are bad choices is like saying driving without a seat belt and putting a loaded gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger are bad choices. Sure, both are bad. But not equally. Biden has better legislative accomplishments by far. His main drag has been dealing with inflation issues that are 70% not his fault (the spending bill he passed a month in contributed to be sure, but inflation was coming either way due to supply chain and supply/demand mismatches that simply needed to work themselves out). But he also passed CHIPS and the infrastructure bill, and manufacturing is starting to swell. Biden's chances rest heavily on how the economy does the next 9 mos. I'm hopeful and bullish there. I view it this way -- Biden's policies and governing philosophy are terrible, and the country will be worse off if he is re-elected. But the harm will be within normal parameters, driven mainly by continuing down a failed path of expanding government while shifting the tax burden even further on to the small group that already pays for everything. Trump is a black swan event that could lead to catastrophe. Hell, the only saving grace last time was that Trump and the people around him were too stupid to destroy the republic. If he gets smarter people around him, combined with being even more unhinged (no need to worry about re-election, further cognitive decline), there's no telling the damage he could do. Biden is the obvious, if regrettable, choice.
January 12, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Trump doesn't have policies or a platform beyond whatever pops into his decrepit brain at the moment he is speaking. He is completely devoid of principles, a governing philosophy or really even basic logical thought. It's like electing Dory the Fish to be President. Not true https://www.eaglesmessageboard.com/topic/10798-primarys-here-which-trump-policy-is-your-favorite/
January 12, 20241 yr Just now, vikas83 said: I view it this way -- Biden's policies and governing philosophy are terrible, and the country will be worse off if he is re-elected. But the harm will be within normal parameters, driven mainly by continuing down a failed path of expanding government while shifting the tax burden even further on to the small group that already pays for everything. Trump is a black swan event that could lead to catastrophe. Hell, the only saving grace last time was that Trump and the people around him were too stupid to destroy the republic. If he gets smarter people around him, combined with being even more unhinged (no need to worry about re-election, further cognitive decline), there's no telling the damage he could do. Biden is the obvious, if regrettable, choice. Pretty much. This is why generic Republican wins most elections. People project solutions for the excesses Democrats display on their alternatives. But few if any Republicans can even meet the bar of generic Republican. They all have to pander in rhetoric and action to the stupidest among us.
January 12, 20241 yr Author 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I view it this way -- Biden's policies and governing philosophy are terrible, and the country will be worse off if he is re-elected. But the harm will be within normal parameters, driven mainly by continuing down a failed path of expanding government while shifting the tax burden even further on to the small group that already pays for everything. Trump is a black swan event that could lead to catastrophe. Hell, the only saving grace last time was that Trump and the people around him were too stupid to destroy the republic. If he gets smarter people around him, combined with being even more unhinged (no need to worry about re-election, further cognitive decline), there's no telling the damage he could do. Biden is the obvious, if regrettable, choice.
January 12, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: I guess we'll find out during the next election. If Biden loses then it means people who previously voted for him thought he did a worse job than Trump. It's not like there isn't a comparison of the 2 and how they perform as president. To say that it's demonstrably false that Biden is "as worse or worse" is just an opinion and many people have a different opinion than you. My opinion is that they are both bad choices. Biden will leave in 4 years if he wins. Trump won't. Your argument is invalid.
January 12, 20241 yr Sorry, I can't see how anyone feels there is anyone worse than the Donald. I really can't. It's the correct vote. I don't care if a dog is running, a vote for a dog is better than voting for that POS.
January 12, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I view it this way -- Biden's policies and governing philosophy are terrible, and the country will be worse off if he is re-elected. But the harm will be within normal parameters, driven mainly by continuing down a failed path of expanding government while shifting the tax burden even further on to the small group that already pays for everything. Trump is a black swan event that could lead to catastrophe. Hell, the only saving grace last time was that Trump and the people around him were too stupid to destroy the republic. If he gets smarter people around him, combined with being even more unhinged (no need to worry about re-election, further cognitive decline), there's no telling the damage he could do. Biden is the obvious, if regrettable, choice. I'd prefer an election with a younger moderate Dem and an actual conservative Republican.
January 12, 20241 yr 55 minutes ago, DiPros said: Sorry, I can't see how anyone feels there is anyone worse than the Donald. I really can't. It's the correct vote. I don't care if a dog is running, a vote for a dog is better than voting for that POS. I would vote for WV Mike and maybe even KZ over Trump. That's how bad he is.
January 12, 20241 yr Trump admits his businesses profited from foreign governments while he was POTUS Wait. Isn't this what the whole Biden impeachment farce is about?
January 12, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, toolg said: Trump admits his businesses profited from foreign governments while he was POTUS Wait. Isn't this what the whole Biden impeachment farce is about? MTG proved what the deal is about.
January 12, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, toolg said: Trump admits his businesses profited from foreign governments while he was POTUS Wait. Isn't this what the whole Biden impeachment farce is about? Everyone with any brains understands this. The ones that still support Trump are delusional nutbags.
January 12, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, VanHammersly said: I haven't seen a single Trump supporter in this cycle tout one of his policies that they support. Not once. With the primary here, I should make another poll of Trump's policies, see if the cultists have narrowed in on a favorite. I'm thinking it is still "grab 'em by the poosie"
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