February 6, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: ONLY IF THEY COMMIT CRIMES, DONNIE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMIT CRIMES WHILE IN OFFICE. THERE ARE LAWS AGAINST IT. Really. Rule of law means it doesn't matter if you were President of the United States, or how much money you have, the laws are the same for everybody. Trump is constantly in a courtroom. LINK It's the only way he knows how to function. He thinks it's a game he can bend to his will if he gets lawyers to state his case in a particular way.
February 6, 20241 yr 23 minutes ago, vikas83 said: They could deny the stay, deny cert, and simply affirm and adopt the lower court decision. If they put out a statement adopting and affirming the decision 9-0, that would end it. Too bad that makes too much sense to actually happen.
February 6, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Too bad that makes too much sense to actually happen. I can see the argument that in an unprecedented case like this, you'd want SCOTUS to hear argument, review briefing and then issue a decision. It can be done on an expedited basis, but if we are going to find a former President guilty of crimes committed while in office, having a robust judicial review makes sense.
February 6, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Toastrel said: ONLY IF THEY COMMIT CRIMES, DONNIE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMIT CRIMES WHILE IN OFFICE. THERE ARE LAWS AGAINST IT. I enjoy listening to a fun audiobook series called "Dungeon Crawler Carl." In it, there is a talking cat. She and Carl text each other. The cat only texts in all caps so when the texts are read, the cat is yelling at him. Someone should create an AI or something that does this with this fellas all caps texts. Just an X account that reads his posts in the yelling voice of Princess Donut, the cat.
February 6, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: Thomas is many things, but he is not an idiot. Maybe not, but he's a fascist who is actively trying to destroy democracy from the inside.
February 6, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: more whales & windmills talk from dementia donnie Dementia. Classic symptoms: Delusions (or strongly held false beliefs) are a common symptom for a person with dementia. They can take the form of paranoia, which makes the person feel threatened, even if there is no or little reason to feel this way. Dementia can make a person suspicious of the people around them.
February 6, 20241 yr Doesn't seem like we're going to get decisions before November So what happens if god forbid he wins but then the court rules him guilty in the Georgia trial?
February 6, 20241 yr Just now, Mike030270 said: Doesn't seem like we're going to get decisions before November So what happens if god forbid he wins but then the court rules him guilty in the George trial? That depends, we talkin bout Santos or Soros? Because we all know Keyzer Soros aint one to F with.
February 6, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said: Doesn't seem like we're going to get decisions before November So what happens if god forbid he wins but then the court rules him guilty in the George trial? He can't pardon himself for state level crimes, so he would face sentencing if convicted. 0.0% chance of them putting him in jail in this sceanrio, and the pressure on Kemp to pardon him or commute his sentence will be enormous. Truthfully, if he never set foot in Georgia again, I'm not sure what recourse they would have. DC wouldn't extradite him.
February 6, 20241 yr New Hampshire Attorney General has found the identity of where the fake AI call of Biden telling voters not to vote came from. TEXAS. Biden Audio Deepfake Prior to New Hampshire Primary Traced to Texas https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-audio-deepfake-prior-hampshire-154133294.html An AI-generated cloned audio message of President Joe Biden that attempted to dissuade registered Democrats from voting in primary elections was traced to a Texas company and its owner, according to New Hampshire authorities. Attorney General John Formella said on Tuesday the audio deepfake was tracked back to Life Corporation, a Texas company owned by Walter Monk. The audio deepfake sounded like Biden — it even used a favorite catchphrase, "What a bunch of malarkey” — and urged New Hampshire voters not to cast their ballots in the state’s Jan. 23 primary election. The people responsible for the fake audio could face criminal and civil charges, Formella said, citing laws that prohibit voter suppression and displaying inaccurate caller ID with the intent to cause harm. He described the episode as a real-life example of using AI in an attempt to interfere with an election. "AI-generated recordings used to deceive voters have the potential to have devastating effects on the democratic election process,” he said in a statement. Formella said he wouldn’t be surprised if the investigation discovers other entities and individuals associated with the fake calls, some of whom have already been sent subpoenas. He didn’t name the recipients of the subpoenas. Monk didn’t immediately respond to an email message seeking comment. The fake robocall of Biden alarmed disinformation experts and elections officials alike as US authorities grapple with how best to stave off the potential for AI-enabled electoral interference ahead of November’s presidential vote. The fake audio circulated in the weekend prior to the primary election. "Your vote makes a difference in November, not this Tuesday,” the phone message said. In reality, the president wasn’t on the ballot in the New Hampshire race and voting in the primary didn’t preclude people from participating in November’s election. The deepfake didn’t dampen turnout from Democrats, who showed up in droves to give Biden a big victory as a write-in candidate. Read More: Deepfake Biden Audio Alarms Experts in US Election Lead-Up New Hampshire authorities traced a select group of calls with the help of the Industry Traceback Group, which works to find the origin of illegal robocalls, back to the source, Formella said. The calls went to mostly registered Democrats and was spoofed to appear to come from a former New Hampshire Democratic Party chair, officials said. A call monitoring service, Nomorobo, estimates between 5,000 and 25,000 calls were made, according to Formella. AI Election Risks Formella urged greater education about the risks of AI-based election interference and said New Hampshire authorities are working with the Federal Communications Commission among others on its investigation. The FCC’s Enforcement Bureau issued a cease-and-desist letter against Texas-based Lingo Telecom, which authorities said was the service provider for the calls and which has now suspended services to Life Corporation, according to Formella. Lingo didn’t immediately respond to a message seeking comment. "Consumers deserve to know that the person on the other end of the line is exactly who they claim to be. That’s why we’re working closely with state attorneys general across the country to combat the use of voice-cloning technology in robocalls being used to misinform voters and target unwitting victims of fraud,” said FCC Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel, in a statement. Lingo was provided with supporting data for the calls and identified Life Corporation as the party that initiated them, according to the FCC. It isn’t the first time Lingo and Life were the subjects of an illegal robocall investigation, according to the FCC. Since 2021, the Industry Traceback Group has identified Lingo as the gateway provider responsible for 61 suspected illegal calls originating overseas that entered the US. In 2003, the FCC issued Life a citation for delivering apparently illegal prerecorded and unsolicited advertisements to residential lines. According to public filings, Monk’s Life Corporation also owns Voice Broadcasting, which provides phone numbers and technology for clients to cold call people and says it has phone numbers of "every single business entity” in the country. A customer service representative at Voice Broadcasting told Bloomberg News that they were aware of the Biden deepfake call and its link to the company but declined to answer further questions.
February 6, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: That depends, we talkin bout Santos or Soros? Because we all know Keyzer Soros aint one to F with. Good catch
February 6, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, vikas83 said: He can't pardon himself for state level crimes, so he would face sentencing if convicted. 0.0% chance of them putting him in jail in this sceanrio, and the pressure on Kemp to pardon him or commute his sentence will be enormous. Truthfully, if he never set foot in Georgia again, I'm not sure what recourse they would have. DC wouldn't extradite him. Ok then how about another scenario What if they expedite the trials and he's found guilty before November. How would that work if he's the nominee? Do they just remove his name and replace it with someone else?
February 6, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, vikas83 said: He can't pardon himself for state level crimes, so he would face sentencing if convicted. 0.0% chance of them putting him in jail in this sceanrio, and the pressure on Kemp to pardon him or commute his sentence will be enormous. Truthfully, if he never set foot in Georgia again, I'm not sure what recourse they would have. DC wouldn't extradite him. Good lord what a mess. It still boggles my mind that half the country wants this ***** back in power.
February 6, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Ok then how about another scenario What if they expedite the trials and he's found guilty before November. How would that work if he's the nominee? Do they just remove his name and replace it with someone else? There is no Constitutional prohibition on a convicted felon being President. If he wins the nomination, he stays on the ballot. If he is convicted in the Jan 6 trial in DC, then there will be a challenge to his eligibility if he wins. Once again, the 14th Amendment says no person that " engaged in insurrection or rebellion" shall "be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States...." It doesn't say you can't run for it or be elected to it. The proper time for a challenge would be if he wins, you say he is ineligible to hold the office and therefore the VP elect becomes the President.
February 6, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, vikas83 said: I can see the argument that in an unprecedented case like this, you'd want SCOTUS to hear argument, review briefing and then issue a decision. It can be done on an expedited basis, but if we are going to find a former President guilty of crimes committed while in office, having a robust judicial review makes sense. What makes sense anymore?
February 6, 20241 yr https://apnews.com/article/trump-weisselberg-engoron-perjury-civil-fraud-4d598852ee1cafa7ef9976452b42e6a2 NEW YORK (AP) — The judge in Donald Trump’s civil fraud trial is demanding more information after a key witness was reported to be in negotiations to plead guilty to perjury in connection with his testimony in the lawsuit. In an email posted to the trial docket Tuesday, Judge Arthur Engoron asked lawyers in the case to provide him with a letter "detailing anything you know” about the situation involving Allen Weisselberg, the former longtime finance chief at Trump’s company, the Trump Organization. "I do not want to ignore anything in a case of this magnitude,” Engoron wrote, suggesting he may disregard all of Weisselberg’s testimony if he were to admit to lying on the witness stand.
February 6, 20241 yr 38 minutes ago, vikas83 said: There is no Constitutional prohibition on a convicted felon being President. If he wins the nomination, he stays on the ballot. If he is convicted in the Jan 6 trial in DC, then there will be a challenge to his eligibility if he wins. Once again, the 14th Amendment says no person that " engaged in insurrection or rebellion" shall "be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States...." It doesn't say you can't run for it or be elected to it. The proper time for a challenge would be if he wins, you say he is ineligible to hold the office and therefore the VP elect becomes the President. Well, I for one, welcome our new MAGA overlord, President Elise Stefanik
February 6, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Well, I for one, welcome our new MAGA overlord, President Elise Stefanik I'm coming around to her being his pick. I had always thought it would be MTG and I think she's stupid/insane/loyal enough to be is first choice (plus planting the bombs on Jan 6th is a nice feather in her cap), but I just don't think Trump (or anyone else for that matter) will be able to get over the fact that she's the single ugliest woman in America. I mean, holy sheet she's F'ing gross.
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