July 9, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, toolg said: Both of Trump's appointees, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, voted with the majority. deep state !!
July 9, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Lol at Trump having to turn over his tax documents in an election year. Won't make the election but enough to put him behind bars. Of course he will resign and Pence will pardon him so he'll never see jail time for this or probably any other federal offense based on anything in his past.
July 9, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Won't make the election but enough to put him behind bars. Of course he will resign and Pence will pardon him so he'll never see jail time for this or probably any other federal offense based on anything in his past. I hear this sometimes - and I'm not a lawyer - so I wonder...In order to pardon someone, they'd first have to convicted of something, right? A lengthy trial and all that. Can you pardon someone from an accusation of a crime? It just makes me think, knock on wood, that Pence won't be in a position to pardon anyone by the time an actual trial would happen.
July 9, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Lloyd said: I hear this sometimes - and I'm not a lawyer - so I wonder...In order to pardon someone, they'd first have to convicted of something, right? A lengthy trial and all that. Can you pardon someone from an accusation of a crime? It just makes me think, knock on wood, that Pence won't be in a position to pardon anyone by the time an actual trial would happen. No, you can pardon on "presumption". That's what Ford did for Nixon. So Pence could list a lot of general habberdash and cover a wide range of Federal Law that could never be used to convict Trump of anything he has previously done. At least that's my understanding. Maybe there is some limit as to how wide the blanket can cover or conversely some requiement on a narrower definition of what someone is being pardoned for but for sure it can be based on a presumptive approach.
July 9, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Lloyd said: I hear this sometimes - and I'm not a lawyer - so I wonder...In order to pardon someone, they'd first have to convicted of something, right? A lengthy trial and all that. Can you pardon someone from an accusation of a crime? It just makes me think, knock on wood, that Pence won't be in a position to pardon anyone by the time an actual trial would happen. No, you don't have to be convicted or even accused. Like when Ford pardoned Nixon for any and all crimes he MAY have committed.
July 9, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: No, you don't have to be convicted or even accused. Like when Ford pardoned Nixon for any and all crimes he MAY have committed. Wonder if it can be so wide so it just basically says "all Federal crimes that may have been commited at any point"?
July 9, 20205 yr 49 minutes ago, toolg said: Both of Trump's appointees, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, voted with the majority.
July 9, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: Even for Fat Donnie, this is an epic meltdown. I love how it never dawns on him or his supporters that he's the president and could direct the justice department to investigate this instead of just rage tweeting about it
July 9, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Gannan said: I love how it never dawns on him or his supporters that he's the president and could direct the justice department to investigate this instead of just rage tweeting about it I mean, that would lead to exoneration. Maybe he learned something after his commission on illegal voter fraud found nothing...
July 9, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: I love how it never dawns on him or his supporters that he's the president and could direct the justice department to investigate this instead of just rage tweeting about it Yep. He's simultaneously the richest, most bigly powerful man to ever hold office, and also a hapless victim to countless forms of harassment...by his own government.
July 9, 20205 yr Can’t we just end it today? Hw can grab a bag full of hamberders and some pooseye, throw Pence the keys, and tweet off into never never land.
July 9, 20205 yr Author would it be crazy to say that cheeto needs to be re-elected to keep himself out of prison?
July 9, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: would it be crazy to say that cheeto needs to be re-elected to keep himself out of prison? Pence will pardon him before that happens. Walls tightening now.
July 9, 20205 yr 32 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: would it be crazy to say that cheeto needs to be re-elected to keep himself out of prison? That's a given.
July 9, 20205 yr Author 21 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Pence will pardon him before that happens. Walls tightening now. how will pence pardon him if biden wins the election?
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