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32 minutes ago, Procus said:

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I remember them saying if they lost then they'd try another avenue but it still wouldn't get paused again

 

Would be hilarious if it was paused again

Just now, Mike030270 said:

I remember them saying if they lost then they'd try another avenue but it still wouldn't get paused again

 

Would be hilarious if it was paused again

I think the debt ceiling bill mandated that payments had to restart and couldn't be paused again. Doesn't mean Biden/Dems won't try something stupid.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

I think the debt ceiling bill mandated that payments had to restart and couldn't be paused again. Doesn't mean Biden/Dems won't try something stupid.

I think I saw that somewhere. No idea what he'll try next. If they get it done then that'll be a lot of votes going to them next year

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2 hours ago, Procus said:

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that's false.

student loan debt has been non-dischargeable in bankruptcy since at least 1998 (when it started mattering to me lol), and in most forms since the 1970s.

the 2005 change didn't impact dischargeability, it just added clarity around classification of student loans.

5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

that's false.

student loan debt has been non-dischargeable in bankruptcy since at least 1998 (when it started mattering to me lol), and in most forms since the 1970s.

the 2005 change didn't impact dischargeability, it just added clarity around classification of student loans.

But it's a meme posted by a guy with dementia living in a Florida retirement home...I think it's probably accurate.

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

that's false.

student loan debt has been non-dischargeable in bankruptcy since at least 1998 (when it started mattering to me lol), and in most forms since the 1970s.

the 2005 change didn't impact dischargeability, it just added clarity around classification of student loans.

Actually, that is correct.  Before '98 you could discharge in a Chapter 13 and work out a payment plan for at least 3 years.  Biden, was, however a big player in the Bankruptcy Reform Act that Bush signed into law which made Chapter 7 discharges more difficult.  The simple solution here - and we've been through this before - is to allow student loan debt to be dischargeable in a bankruptcy again.  But I doubt that happens.

If you ask me, an equitable solution is for institutions of higher learning that realized windfalls from government guaranteed financed tuition pay down some of that bloat.  They made more financially than anybody from all of this, and they should have to pay something akin to a tax regardless of their non-profit status.  Put a hefty poll tax on them earmarked to pay down outstanding debts of former students.

5 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

I remember them saying if they lost then they'd try another avenue but it still wouldn't get paused again

 

Would be hilarious if it was paused again

The Supreme Court has already said it’s ok for a president to pull pentagon funding for any project the president sees fit, so they should go that direction 

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My personal thoughts on the ruling are too complicated to share here, but the fact that this case even was litigated at the highest level is mind-boggling. I'm not sure why they would have standing to try this case considering it was based entirely on a hypothetical situation. 

Seems to set a dangerous precedent on what sorts of cases can and should be heard by SCOTUS.

3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

that's false.

student loan debt has been non-dischargeable in bankruptcy since at least 1998 (when it started mattering to me lol), and in most forms since the 1970s.

the 2005 change didn't impact dischargeability, it just added clarity around classification of student loans.

but that meme had big, bold letters 🤔

(edit: @VanHammersly beat me to it :angry:)

They used Pelosi's own words in the decision 🤣

 

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9 minutes ago, iladelphxx said:

They used Pelosi's own words in the decision 🤣

 

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If the new standard is to make Pelosi grand emperor of all things, we could do a lot worse. Electing Trump in 2024 for example. 

Legit question regarding the gay website thing. Does that pave the way for a scenario like this...

Gay couple in some freezing po dunk town has their HVAC system go. Repair man walks in sees pictures of 2 gay guys getting married and says "You **** should freeze to death" and refuses to provide them service. The only other hvac guy in said po dunk town doesn't like the gheys either. Do they just freeze? Does this decision enable that?

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

The Supreme Court has already said it’s ok for a president to pull pentagon funding for any project the president sees fit, so they should go that direction 

Nah just honor your contract

11 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Legit question regarding the gay website thing. Does that pave the way for a scenario like this...

Gay couple in some freezing po dunk town has their HVAC system go. Repair man walks in sees pictures of 2 gay guys getting married and says "You **** should freeze to death" and refuses to provide them service. The only other hvac guy in said po dunk town doesn't like the gheys either. Do they just freeze? Does this decision enable that?

HVAC repair wouldn't be viewed as art by anyone's definition and is more likely to be classified as a public accommodation.

@vikas83 what was the suit against teacher unions mandating dues again?

we need to get that back in front of them

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

HVAC repair wouldn't be viewed as art by anyone's definition and is more likely to be classified as a public accommodation.

Sounds more like an easy business opportunity

10 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Legit question regarding the gay website thing. Does that pave the way for a scenario like this...

Gay couple in some freezing po dunk town has their HVAC system go. Repair man walks in sees pictures of 2 gay guys getting married and says "You **** should freeze to death" and refuses to provide them service. The only other hvac guy in said po dunk town doesn't like the gheys either. Do they just freeze? Does this decision enable that?

I think the ruling is not because of who she’s declining to work with, but the content she’d be doing.  So this ruling wouldn’t allow for discrimination based on the sexuality of the person asking for service.

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Sounds more like an easy business opportunity

Huh?

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26 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

HVAC repair wouldn't be viewed as art by anyone's definition and is more likely to be classified as a public accommodation.

Art is subjective.

Is beautiful duct work and eye catching cabling not art?

53 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nah just honor your contract

My loans are already being forgiven, doesn’t affect me.

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

My loans are already being forgiven, doesn’t affect me.

And you should be embarassed

 

5 hours ago, Gannan said:

Legit question regarding the gay website thing. Does that pave the way for a scenario like this...

Gay couple in some freezing po dunk town has their HVAC system go. Repair man walks in sees pictures of 2 gay guys getting married and says "You **** should freeze to death" and refuses to provide them service. The only other hvac guy in said po dunk town doesn't like the gheys either. Do they just freeze? Does this decision enable that?

Dude just leave us alone and get your bf to buy you a pellet stove :nonono:

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