BayAreaLennie Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, CheesesteakNBeer said: Not really true. Majority of good starting caliber players are gone the first few weeks of free agency. Both Nelson and the Eagles expressed interest for awhile, little interesting it took so long is all. Not many starting caliber players on the street right now. Fair enough, but apparently no other team was willing to pay him more than $4 million for a year. Almost all those starting caliber players gone in the first few weeks of free agency got more than that. I imagine the conversation back a few months went something like: Eagles: We'll give you $4M for a year. Nelson: I really think I am worth more than that. Eagles: Well, that's our budget. Nelson: Are you going to withdraw the offer if I wait to see if I get a better offer? Eagles: We can leave it open for now, but we cannot promise we will not sign someone else and withdraw the offer, and you have to tell us before you sign with someone else to give us a chance to match. Nelson: OK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonblood Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Not a great player, but a good player. Better than a crappy player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paco Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 7 hours ago, SPIDER-MAN said: Nelson will use the Eagles to revive his career and then sign somewhere else ala Patrick Robinson. So what you are saying is...... COMP PIXZZZZ!!!! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoconoDon Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 MMMMMmmmmmm...................................comp pix................ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmac+djaxallday Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Very good move. He won't sell a lot of jerseys, but sometimes going from bad to OK at a position is just as impactful as going from OK to great. Now if the vets can stay healthy (very big if) we might field a competitive team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikepargo Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Best Available Option 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 This is a really really good signing. He's a good #2. This changes things because if the key players on defense stay healthy then this defense should be expected to produce and be good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Shiznit Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 This pretty much solidifies it for me - Howie had an amazing off-season. About damn time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwide Schrude Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said: This pretty much solidifies it for me - Howie had an amazing off-season. About damn time. Definitely one of the best off seasons in recent years. Very low bar 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Dwide Schrude said: Definitely one of the best off seasons in recent years. Very low bar Agreed but this move could have a big impact on this year. I really think this puts us firmly in the hunt to win the division. Not a high bar but gives the year potentially some intrigue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkdawalk Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Surprised Nelson was had for so little...Think the lack of INTs killed his value. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManchesterEagle Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 8 hours ago, BayAreaLennie said: Fair enough, but apparently no other team was willing to pay him more than $4 million for a year. Almost all those starting caliber players gone in the first few weeks of free agency got more than that. I imagine the conversation back a few months went something like: Eagles: We'll give you $4M for a year. Nelson: I really think I am worth more than that. Eagles: Well, that's our budget. Nelson: Are you going to withdraw the offer if I wait to see if I get a better offer? Eagles: We can leave it open for now, but we cannot promise we will not sign someone else and withdraw the offer, and you have to tell us before you sign with someone else to give us a chance to match. Nelson: OK. 14 minutes ago, Walkdawalk said: Surprised Nelson was had for so little...Think the lack of INTs killed his value. I imagine it was a very similar conversation. Yeah lack of interceptions and timing were the main factors. I guess people might be concerned he benefited from the Steelers pressure D and the players around him (remember Byron Maxwell). But he had a good last year with the Chiefs as well which is encouraging. Also ideal spot for Nelson. Comes in with pretty much no competition for CB2. Has a really good D-Line in front of him and Slay on the other side taking the best receivers. Great opportunity for him to play really well and get paid next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portyansky Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 42 minutes ago, Walkdawalk said: Surprised Nelson was had for so little...Think the lack of INTs killed his value. It's not little when you look at the whole #. Steelers still are paying him 6m, if he hits all incentives we give him 4m. 10m when his contract with Pitts was for 8m. He got a 2m raise and a chance to prove he is worth more. He knows he's a day 1 starter here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrfierce Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 15 hours ago, DeathByEagle said: The Steelers are paying him over 6 mill this year after they cut him. So in the end he will make a little over 10 mill this year if he hits all his incentives in the Eagles contract. why did they cut him ? cap room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrfierce Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Walkdawalk said: Surprised Nelson was had for so little...Think the lack of INTs killed his value. he's only ints came against the eagles, and he had 2 of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 hours ago, D-Shiznit said: This pretty much solidifies it for me - Howie had an amazing off-season. Again, no, he didn’t. 10 hours ago, downundermike said: Not really. Decimated the 2022 cap situation, and none of the free agents will be on the roster next year, but 5 of them will count against the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihailo Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 15 hours ago, EagleTen said: That's what's confusing me...last I seem to remember was that The Eagles had about $3.7m in cap space...so maybe it's a 1 yr $4m deal with a dummy year tagged on to reduce the '21 hit, or maybe, as you say, there is another announcement due soon... 15 hours ago, eggs said: Or cut someone who is not going to make the team like adrian killians and save $700k By signing him they will save $850k as that is what the cheapest player in the top 51 is currently being paid. So the cap space will change by -$3.15m from this signing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleTen Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, mihailo said: By signing him they will save $850k as that is what the cheapest player in the top 51 is currently being paid. So the cap space will change by -$3.15m from this signing. That makes sense...but that now only leaves the Eagles with (about) $600k in cap space, and they still haven't signed Landon Dickerson, and I imagine his cap hit will be more than the cap (currently) space available... And am I right in saying that Dickerson cannot attend training camp until he signs his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochis_Calhoun Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, mihailo said: By signing him they will save $850k as that is what the cheapest player in the top 51 is currently being paid. So the cap space will change by -$3.15m from this signing. Even by the most optimistic cap space number I've seen we're short by a few million even if we accept that they're carrying nothing for in season events, which isn't going to happen. Nelson signing means either Ertz is gone or we're paying Cox another few years into his retirement. I don't understand why we're signing guys like this on one year deals when the fans are accepting of a rebuild and we need to clear cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerTime Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Cochis_Calhoun said: Even by the most optimistic cap space number I've seen we're short by a few million even if we accept that they're carrying nothing for in season events, which isn't going to happen. Nelson signing means either Ertz is gone or we're paying Cox another few years into his retirement. I don't understand why we're signing guys like this on one year deals when the fans are accepting of a rebuild and we need to clear cap. Maddox will be cut and brought back after week 1 at league minimum saving the team 2 million. Plus there is a few players who count less then 850k towards the cap who will make the team. It can be done with keeping Ertz if they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManchesterEagle Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, mihailo said: By signing him they will save $850k as that is what the cheapest player in the top 51 is currently being paid. So the cap space will change by -$3.15m from this signing. 3 minutes ago, EagleTen said: That makes sense... Nelson's base salary is 2.5 million. Take off the $850,000 of the current cheapest player and he is only counting an additional 1.65 million against the cap. Eagles reportedly had 4.8 million in space, so they now have 3.15 million. Enough to sign Dickerson. We are good - and the move for Nelson was incredible value. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleTen Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Thanks...I liked the signing, very much so! I was just a little confused about the numbers, but if all he is costing us against the cap this year is $1.65m, then that's amazing value for a #2 CB... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Shiznit Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Agreed but this move could have a big impact on this year. I really think this puts us firmly in the hunt to win the division. Not a high bar but gives the year potentially some intrigue. Agreed, very shrewd off-season by Howie, loaded up on picks for next year, while remaining competitive for this year. Low bar, but hey. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 19 hours ago, SPIDER-MAN said: Scouts believe tape shows below-average football intelligence and a lack of speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infam Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, EagleVA said: Scouts believe tape shows below-average football intelligence and a lack of speed Agreed, Willie Henry probably won't be missed. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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