UK_EaglesFan89 Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 That's a hammer blow for this team. A huge huge loss that can't be understated. 4
EagleJoe8 Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 Could be it for good. Best of luck going forward BG! 2
NOTW Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 Howie "the cap guru" extended Graham, but also extended Barnett and Sweat. Now stuck with Graham's contract. 1
brkmsn Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, NOTW said: Howie "the cap guru" extended Graham, but also extended Barnett and Sweat. Now stuck with Graham's contract. In the last 9 seasons, he only missed one game (game 16, 2017 (rest)). He's coming off his most productive year. The injury is the only thing really making this a negative. Of course, that's just my opinion. 8
Bwestbrook36 Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, brkmsn said: In the last 9 seasons, he only missed one game (game 16, 2017 (rest)). He's coming off his most productive year. The injury is the only thing really making this a negative. Of course, that's just my opinion. This agree with a lot of people liked this signing. I didn't but, it had nothing to do with injuries. 1
Guest Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, NOTW said: Howie "the cap guru" extended Graham, but also extended Barnett and Sweat. Now stuck with Graham's contract. You never get any savings getting out of his contract. Howie sucks.
NOTW Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, brkmsn said: In the last 9 seasons, he only missed one game (game 16, 2017 (rest)). He's coming off his most productive year. The injury is the only thing really making this a negative. Of course, that's just my opinion. A GM has to think future, and have drafted a replacement so you don't have to pay older guys to sit on IR.
opa-opa Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 Cool now we can get that high first round pick.
Guest Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: We'll bring him back next season No choice. Stuck with him through 2024
Mike030270 Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, downundermike said: No choice. Stuck with him through 2024 Didn't see the post Well at least he hasn't decline a bunch in his older age
Bwestbrook36 Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said: Didn't see the post Well at least he hasn't decline a bunch in his older age He will now, that's really tough to come back from at that age and the the position he plays. He needs to be able to push off of that Achilles into 300lb lineman
eaglegenius Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 Defensive lineman should be a priority in the next draft but - Graham is still one of the best players on the team. This isn't like hanging on to Peters year after year of injury. The defense gave up its first TD shortly after Graham went out of this game and never got back to the good form they were in before BG left the game. Which shows how valuable he is. How about putting the blame where it belongs. IDIOTIC penalties and less than stellar playcalling. 4
Procus Posted September 19, 2021 Author Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, DBW said: Damn. Well, the good news is that he's vaccinated 2 2
brkmsn Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, NOTW said: A GM has to think future, and have drafted a replacement so you don't have to pay older guys to sit on IR. Which is why we drafted Barnett, Sweat, Toohill, Jackson and Johnson. It's why we drafted Hollins and Gibson when we had T. Smith; JJAW when we had Jeffery; Reagor, Hightower and Watkins when we had DJax; Goedert when we had Ertz; Pumphrey when we had Sproles; Vaitai, Pryor, Mailata, Dillard, Driscoll, and PTW when we had JP and Lane Johnson; Dickerson when we had Kelce; McPherson when we had Slay; Williams and Tuipulotu when we had Cox and Hargrave... Obviously not every pick works out, but you have to try. You only have so many high picks and a draft board to consider. Once those high picks are used to address certain positions or to draft the BPA on your board, you still have to try to "hit" with the later picks at areas of need or future need. It's not like the Eagles have completely ignored the future. One can certainly offer a strong case that the Eagles haven't done a good enough job in recent drafts. We've also brought in some young guys by trading various draft picks away (Jernigan, Darby, Howard, Avery, Ajayi, Ridgeway, MInshew). Despite all this, you still need to try to keep productive veteran leaders on your roster. 2
Sack that QB Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 It was a very innocuous stumble too. Usually achilles are extreme overplants. He did a tiny little stumble. Makes you wonder if he's at that age where he's just gonna start getting hurt a lot even if he's never been that guy prior. Either way, shame.
Uscg-green Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said: Could be it for good. Best of luck going forward BG! He's coming back. 1
brkmsn Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: He will now, that's really tough to come back from at that age and the the position he plays. He needs to be able to push off of that Achilles into 300lb lineman It's not that definitive. It is statistically a difficult injury to return from, let alone, to play at the level you were playing at before the injury. But some players still do return to form. It's just statistically less likely. 1
brkmsn Posted September 20, 2021 Posted September 20, 2021 This is why we signed Ryan Kerrigan --- hopefully he can turn back the clock a bit and get the job done.
NOTW Posted September 20, 2021 Posted September 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, brkmsn said: Which is why we drafted Barnett, Sweat, Toohill, Jackson and Johnson. It's why we drafted Hollins and Gibson when we had T. Smith; JJAW when we had Jeffery; Reagor, Hightower and Watkins when we had DJax; Goedert when we had Ertz; Pumphrey when we had Sproles; Vaitai, Pryor, Mailata, Dillard, Driscoll, and PTW when we had JP and Lane Johnson; Dickerson when we had Kelce; McPherson when we had Slay; Williams and Tuipulotu when we had Cox and Hargrave... Obviously not every pick works out, but you have to try. You only have so many high picks and a draft board to consider. Once those high picks are used to address certain positions or to draft the BPA on your board, you still have to try to "hit" with the later picks at areas of need or future need. It's not like the Eagles have completely ignored the future. One can certainly offer a strong case that the Eagles haven't done a good enough job in recent drafts. We've also brought in some young guys by trading various draft picks away (Jernigan, Darby, Howard, Avery, Ajayi, Ridgeway, MInshew). Despite all this, you still need to try to keep productive veteran leaders on your roster. They extended BG for too long, they did draft Barnett & Sweat and just extended him. Should've done a 2 year team friendly on BG and Brooks. Johnson's deal too many years as well. My point about these older or injury prone guys isn't to cut them, because you do need veterans. But you do shorter term deals and prepare the replacement, not get stuck with guys for years like Howie has done. 1
brkmsn Posted September 20, 2021 Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, NOTW said: They extended BG for too long, they did draft Barnett & Sweat and just extended him. Should've done a 2 year team friendly on BG and Brooks. Johnson's deal too many years as well. My point about these older or injury prone guys isn't to cut them, because you do need veterans. But you do shorter term deals and prepare the replacement, not get stuck with guys for years like Howie has done. ... and the point I tried to make earlier today was that veterans aren't looking for team-friendly deals. They want the security of longer term deals. Ideally we'd offer Lane a 1-year deal at the vet minimum and he'd say, "Yeah, sure! I love it here!" Wake me up when that happens.
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