3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think that's a reflection of the way the league is going but there is still a place for guys like Howard. 

The Dolphins gave him a two-year, $9+ million contract with $4.75 million guaranteed. That’s a lot of money for what he would be asked to do. I agree that he’s certainly an NFL player. That just seems high.

Just now, SBorBust said:

The Dolphins gave him a two-year, $9+ million contract with $4.75 million guaranteed. That’s a lot of money for what he would be asked to do. I agree that he’s certainly an NFL player. That just seems high.

Not necessarily. They just drafted a young QB with injury concerns. A physical hard yards RB who's excellent in pass protection sounds like a pretty good investment to me. 

Clement had a good showing in the SB season.  He will get a very long look as he deserves it.

Holyfield and Warren will fight for that physical RB role.  Judging from what Dave said on the Team site, we can't rule out signing of  a vet RB for that role.  Given the uncertainty with TC and pre-season work-out, they may tend to go with someone who can contribute right away.   

8 hours ago, Penn7980 said:

Clement had a good showing in the SB season.  He will get a very long look as he deserves it.

Why does he deserve it? He's been injured the last 2 years, ended both seasons on IR having barely played. 

46 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Why does he deserve it? He's been injured the last 2 years, ended both seasons on IR having barely played. 

People need to let go of how someone played during the super bowl season. That's 3 years ago a lot has changed with some of those players so they need to prove themselves every year like everyone else that wants to play. 

15 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

People need to let go of how someone played during the super bowl season. That's 3 years ago a lot has changed with some of those players so they need to prove themselves every year like everyone else that wants to play. 

Could not agree with you more. What Clement did in the SB was incredible, but it was over 2 years ago, 2 full seasons have since passed and since he has done nothing. 

Good, now he won't have to give the teacher back her BMW 😁

I think Corey if healthy will play well this season. It just seemed like fluke injuries the past 2 seasons... Unless the SB season for him was a fluke too...Maybe you can't catch lightning in a bottle again, but I do think Corey can be solid this year. The Eagles really need a big RB bruiser type to grind it out on 3rd and short and Goal Line and Short as well . Corey can play a little of that but not as well as Howard (now Dolphins). But it's also not exactly Freeman and McCoy -who are available free agents. Carlos Hyde would have been great in the bruiser type RB role ( now Seahawks). It's slim pickings for that type of RB player in the free agent market now... Where is a young Legarrette Blount, and a  young Jay Ajayi, without knee ACL problems (now both apparently moved on from the NFL) - when you need them.. Apparently there is no-one of that stature , health and in their prime available for 2020. Perhaps a rookie RB who can grow a liitle into that role...? Or Jalen Hurts plays a bit of RB? (not really too serious on that one)

Maybe the Eagles could be tempted to play pass, pass, pass this season - with the speedster WR's to stretch the defense and dump off to any WR/RB/TE to pick up short yardage instead of grinding it out... But that's doesn't really work down on the goal ine in compressed short field positions. There's always the QB sneak risk your franchise QB play. Or Philly Special Part 2...:)  I'm really not that serious on the last two either. - so back to just a big Bruiser RB... 

9 hours ago, Robmarina9 said:

Unless the SB season for him was a fluke too

Isn't that the outlier though? In 3 seasons he's had one where he was outstanding in the play offs and the other two where he's been hurt for most of the year. And when he has been healthy since 2017 he's really not played that well. I don't get why so many wanted him back I really don't. 

He can't be relied upon to stay healthy and we can't be sure how good he is when he is. 

On 5/24/2020 at 4:27 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Isn't that the outlier though? In 3 seasons he's had one where he was outstanding in the play offs and the other two where he's been hurt for most of the year. And when he has been healthy since 2017 he's really not played that well. I don't get why so many wanted him back I really don't. 

He can't be relied upon to stay healthy and we can't be sure how good he is when he is. 

I imagine his growing up and playing high school ball in the area might have something to do with it, kind of "a local boy". I doubt he's guaranteed a spot on the 53.

On 5/24/2020 at 4:27 AM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Isn't that the outlier though? In 3 seasons he's had one where he was outstanding in the play offs and the other two where he's been hurt for most of the year. And when he has been healthy since 2017 he's really not played that well. I don't get why so many wanted him back I really don't. 

He can't be relied upon to stay healthy and we can't be sure how good he is when he is. 

Because there is absolutely no harm in bringing him to camp to let him compete. If he gets injured again or beat out by someone else, then he gets cut. If he stays healthy throughout and plays exceptionally well in preseason, then he gives you a reason to keep him. 
 

I literally see no downside to having him on the preseason roster. 

1 minute ago, nipples said:

Because there is absolutely no harm in bringing him to camp to let him compete. If he gets injured again or beat out by someone else, then he gets cut. If he stays healthy throughout and plays exceptionally well in preseason, then he gives you a reason to keep him. 
 

I literally see no downside to having him on the preseason roster. 

I see no downside to having him on the preseason roster. I just feel due to the situation at RB he's going to make the roster and that's a bad thing in my opinion.

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I see no downside to having him on the preseason roster. I just feel due to the situation at RB he's going to make the roster and that's a bad thing in my opinion.

If he’s better than the alternatives (which he’d have to be to make the roster) then how is it a bad thing? Put the best players on the field, if he’s one of them then so be it. 

56 minutes ago, nipples said:

If he’s better than the alternatives (which he’d have to be to make the roster) then how is it a bad thing? Put the best players on the field, if he’s one of them then so be it. 

Exactly. 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I see no downside to having him on the preseason roster. I just feel due to the situation at RB he's going to make the roster and that's a bad thing in my opinion.

The fact that his re-signing did not stop the Eagles from looking into bringing in one of Carlos Hyde/Devonta Freeman/LeSean McCoy should be reassuring. I have a feeling that McCoy will be back in Philly, with Hyde no longer available and Freeman willing to sit out the year if he doesn't get the $$ he wants. 

It doesn't appear that the Eagles are letting nostalgia of the 2017 season cloud their decisions to bolster the roster this year. In this offseason, they have allowed Jason Peters, Michael Jenkins, Nigel Bradham, Vinny Curry, and Nelson Agholor to leave in free agency.

While it's certainly possible that one or more of Peters/Bradham/Curry return on a cheap deal as we get closer to the start of the season, it is very apparent that the Eagles are going for a youth movement. Whether it works out or not remains to be seen.

On 5/23/2020 at 6:44 PM, Robmarina9 said:

Unless the SB season for him was a fluke too

We wont know until he plays a complete season. The SB season was the only season he played more then 2 games. I agree success in one season doesnt mean you "deserve" to be on a team. You have to earn your role every year/every week. I think if hes healthy, hes a nice back and gives a nice change of pace. Kinda like what Buckhaulter did with Westbrook. The key word is healthy. Holyfield and Warren are both mirror images to Clement's style so they have a chance to take that spot if Clement cant stay on the field. Sadly we dont have any HB that is that drop your shoulder and put the pain on someone runner like Howard. We dont have that 3 headed monster yet on this roster. We have two styles. 

5 hours ago, nipples said:

If he’s better than the alternatives (which he’d have to be to make the roster) then how is it a bad thing? Put the best players on the field, if he’s one of them then so be it. 

But he's not reliable. The dude has spent the majority of the last 2 years on IR.

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

But he's not reliable. The dude has spent the majority of the last 2 years on IR.

Clement has played in 31 games in his 3 year career. Williams has played in 23 games in 4 years. Whether it’s due to injury, off field issues or just plain sucking, what is the difference? Just based on number of games missed, regardless of the reason, Williams has been on the field less in 4 years than Clement has in 3. 

1 minute ago, nipples said:

Clement has played in 31 games in his 3 year career. Williams has played in 23 games in 4 years. Whether it’s due to injury, off field issues or just plain sucking, what is the difference? Just based on number of games missed, regardless of the reason, Williams has been on the field less in 4 years than Clement has in 3. 

Clement didn't play in a lot in 2017. In the regular season he did very little in fact. I thought we were moving on from the past and keeping players for nostalgia. 

11 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Clement didn't play in a lot in 2017. In the regular season he did very little in fact. I thought we were moving on from the past and keeping players for nostalgia. 

There’s a difference in bringing back dudes in their 30s for nostalgia and a guy who was just drafted a few years ago. 
 

Again, I’m not saying Clement is Mr reliable or a great back but I’m 100% giving him a shot over Williams. Dude has barely played in 4 years. There is a reason he’s been on 3 teams in 4 seasons (4 teams if you count a brief stint on Denver’s PS). Hell, he’s been on three different practice squads in his 4 year career... that should tell you something too. 
 

Also you say Clement barely played in 2017 in the regular season, yet he had more carries, more yards and more TDs in that season than Williams has in any season of his career. Even 2018 when Clement only played in 11 games he had more rush attempts, yards and TDs than Williams ever had in a season. Add in receiving, and it isn’t even close. 
 

One more little stat:

Clement career TDs: 8 (6 rushing, 2 receiving)

Williams: 2 (both rushing)

Bottom line, the dude barely plays and sucks. 

35 minutes ago, nipples said:

Again, I’m not saying Clement is Mr reliable or a great back but I’m 100% giving him a shot over Williams.

You're making this a Clement vs Williams debate which isn't really my argument. I'm saying I think it's a bad thing if Clement ends up making this roster that's all. 

50 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

You're making this a Clement vs Williams debate which isn't really my argument. I'm saying I think it's a bad thing if Clement ends up making this roster that's all. 

Only if he’s making it over someone who was more deserving. Really, we’re not talking about someone taking Sanders’ job, or on the brink of signing a Zeke Elliott type contract. If he’s the 3rd or 4th guy and he’s earned it over others, so be it. 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

You're making this a Clement vs Williams debate which isn't really my argument. I'm saying I think it's a bad thing if Clement ends up making this roster that's all. 

Yes... that’s because I’m apparently drunk and thought we were still in the Williams thread where we also discussed who we would rather have between those two 😆 

2 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Only if he’s making it over someone who was more deserving. Really, we’re not talking about someone taking Sanders’ job, or on the brink of signing a Zeke Elliott type contract. If he’s the 3rd or 4th guy and he’s earned it over others, so be it. 

But even as the #4 I don't like it. He's not reliable enough. You can't guarantee when you need him due to injuries that he'll be available. 

32 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

But even as the #4 I don't like it. He's not reliable enough. You can't guarantee when you need him due to injuries that he'll be available. 

Meh, if it's that bad, there are always going to be street FA's available. Correll Buckhalter had a bad stretch of injury plagued seasons, but was still a nice role player for us afterwards.