44 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I have wanted Howie fired for years now, but if the team is gaining momentum and we're pointing in the right direction (which it seems we are), isn't that the main objective (other than winning a championship)?  I see no reason to wish for them to flop just to create a chance to can him (TBH I think the odds are slim that even if we flopped he'd be fired).  So best to hope the decisions they made with the Sirianni hire and whatever we do with those three 1st rd picks are the right ones to allow this team to take a giant step forward and become legitimate contenders again.  

The team is doing what we all have been asking them to do. Really what is there to be upset about right now? They’re improving and that’s what matters most. 

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

The team is doing what we all have been asking them to do. Really what is there to be upset about right now? They’re improving and that’s what matters most. 

A major infusion of talent to this roster (with 4 high picks) and the coaches having used this season to figure out what works and how to game plan and we could take a huge step forward next year.  Of course that means Howie needs to hit on those picks and Hurts continue to show progress as this season winds down so that they don't feel the need to make a run at a QB.  

3 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

It’s just not happening so root for him to nail these picks. 

Or we will be set back for years!! @NOTW there it is!!

21 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I’d still rather make the playoffs and root for the Dolphins and the Colts to lose. I’d say Hargrave is a solid piece in the middle. Avante Maddox is a solid football player, and Slay can still play. Offensively this team has more offensive weapons than Reid’s 99 team. That Chip Kelly team went into that season with major questions, because all of those weapons you mentioned got hurt the year prior. Right now the Eagles best pick isn’t their own. It’s the Dolphins pick. Considering some of the games coming up the Eagles should win at least three of them without really even trying. They aren’t going to lose enough games to be a top 5 pick from their pick. Might as well win as many games as possible, use those picks built up from the trades and the cap relief and build on a playoff team. I’ll tell you this much it’s a lot easier to bring talent onto a playoff team than one that languishing we’ll behind in the division. 

I hear what you're saying and appreciate your position.  Will I be excited if the Eagles actually make the playoffs this year?  Absolutely!  If that happens then we just enjoy and make the best of it.  That said, my argument comes from a more "big picture" view.  If they make the playoffs, it will be because we feasted on the bottom feeders.  When we have played a team with a decent QB, we got our arses whooped.  I don't foresee that changing this year.  Will I hope for it in a playoff game?  Of course.  Will I rationally expect that to happen? No.

The higher our draft slots (all 3 of them), the better our chances of getting impact players. If the Eagles make the playoffs, the best their slot would be is 18 whereas if they don't make the playoffs they'd at least have slot 17 or higher.  Looks no further back than 2020 for the difference between the 17th and 18th picks: 17 was CeeDee Lamb, 18 was Austin Jackson.  Lamb looks to be a beast, Jackson is struggling and looking like a bust.

Every single slot in draft positioning matters.  

5 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t believe Howie’s earned the right to keep his job this long, but I see no reason to dumb him now either. It’s just not happening so root for him to nail these picks. 

 

4 hours ago, time2rock said:

A major infusion of talent to this roster (with 4 high picks) and the coaches having used this season to figure out what works and how to game plan and we could take a huge step forward next year.  Of course that means Howie needs to hit on those picks and Hurts continue to show progress as this season winds down so that they don't feel the need to make a run at a QB.  

 

2 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Or we will be set back for years!! @NOTW there it is!!

I'm just going to make memes about it for therapy now.

 

59 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

I hear what you're saying and appreciate your position.  Will I be excited if the Eagles actually make the playoffs this year?  Absolutely!  If that happens then we just enjoy and make the best of it.  That said, my argument comes from a more "big picture" view.  If they make the playoffs, it will be because we feasted on the bottom feeders.  When we have played a team with a decent QB, we got our arses whooped.  I don't foresee that changing this year.  Will I hope for it in a playoff game?  Of course.  Will I rationally expect that to happen? No.

The higher our draft slots (all 3 of them), the better our chances of getting impact players. If the Eagles make the playoffs, the best their slot would be is 18 whereas if they don't make the playoffs they'd at least have slot 17 or higher.  Looks no further back than 2020 for the difference between the 17th and 18th picks: 17 was CeeDee Lamb, 18 was Austin Jackson.  Lamb looks to be a beast, Jackson is struggling and looking like a bust.

Every single slot in draft positioning matters.  

You never know. Baker Mayfield, Jameis Winston, and Jamarcus Russell were all taken first overall. The statistics for the Eagles picking higher should improve their chances of making a good selection for a first, but so can three first round picks. On top of that I don’t think there’s any chance Howie stays in the top of the draft if he has the pick. He’s likely trading back anyways. Overall I think making it to the playoffs (nobody minded when we feasted on bad teams late in 18 and 19) could be a good think because it could prevent Howie from packaging all these picks in search of that vet quarterback to take them over the top thus ruining any real chances to improve this roster. 

7 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t believe Howie’s earned the right to keep his job this long, but I see no reason to dumb him now either. It’s just not happening so root for him to nail these picks. 

I mean yeah I agree. I don't like Howie (in terms of how he comes across) and I think actually he's a pretty boring GM but hey he's staying and so we need him to nail these picks. 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean yeah I agree. I don't like Howie (in terms of how he comes across) and I think actually he's a pretty boring GM but hey he's staying and so we need him to nail these picks. 

@NOTW gonna need a meme here

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean yeah I agree. I don't like Howie (in terms of how he comes across) and I think actually he's a pretty boring GM but hey he's staying and so we need him to nail these picks. 

 

49 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

@NOTW gonna need a meme here

Feel free to tag me anytime you see someone say this, I'm gonna run out of memes by March.  

7 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean yeah I agree. I don't like Howie (in terms of how he comes across) and I think actually he's a pretty boring GM but hey he's staying and so we need him to nail these picks. 

Who isn't a "pretty boring GM?"  They all seem like bean counting dorks to me.

3 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Who isn't a "pretty boring GM?"  They all seem like bean counting dorks to me.

Yeah I didn't know there were GMs  that were exciting..... This isn't WWE lol. 

Beanbag counters amirite??

11 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

You never know. Baker Mayfield, Jameis Winston, and Jamarcus Russell were all taken first overall. The statistics for the Eagles picking higher should improve their chances of making a good selection for a first, but so can three first round picks. On top of that I don’t think there’s any chance Howie stays in the top of the draft if he has the pick. He’s likely trading back anyways. Overall I think making it to the playoffs (nobody minded when we feasted on bad teams late in 18 and 19) could be a good think because it could prevent Howie from packaging all these picks in search of that vet quarterback to take them over the top thus ruining any real chances to improve this roster. 

I would think that isn't limited to just QB's.  From what I've seen, the record of first overall picks in the NFL has generally been spotty.  Judge for yourself.

https://www.nfl.com/photos/ranking-all-52-no-1-picks-of-the-nfl-s-common-draft-era-0ap3000000797366

7 hours ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Who isn't a "pretty boring GM?"  They all seem like bean counting dorks to me.

I just mean you know what he's going to do. You know the mistakes he's going to make. You know he's going to manage the cap but kick the can. He's not very innovative at all. 

On 11/18/2021 at 12:44 PM, NOTW said:

 

 

I'm just going to make memes about it for therapy now.

 

But, but, but three picks tho! He’s got to nail this one! 😂🤣😂

On 11/19/2021 at 12:43 AM, Procus said:

I would think that isn't limited to just QB's.  From what I've seen, the record of first overall picks in the NFL has generally been spotty.  Judge for yourself.

https://www.nfl.com/photos/ranking-all-52-no-1-picks-of-the-nfl-s-common-draft-era-0ap3000000797366

I agree. My only point was this idea that drafting high would guarantee Howie’s success isn’t a real concept. We got Lane Johnson who basically feel into the Eagles lap, because Miami jumped ahead and took Jordan. We dodged a bullet based on luck. 

43 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I agree. My only point was this idea that drafting high would guarantee Howie’s success isn’t a real concept. We got Lane Johnson who basically feel into the Eagles lap, because Miami jumped ahead and took Jordan. We dodged a bullet based on luck. 

I'm old enough to remember when Dick Vermeil wanted to draft Perry Tuttle and instead had to settle for Mike Quick.  Sometimes, it's better to be lucky than smart.

Maybe.  Building a winning culture is key so making the playoffs in Siri’s first season would be a nice surprise.  Am hoping for at least a .500 record.

57 minutes ago, Procus said:

I'm old enough to remember when Dick Vermeil wanted to draft Perry Tuttle and instead had to settle for Mike Quick.  Sometimes, it's better to be lucky than smart.

Drafting isn’t an exact science. There are plenty of drafts littered with players who didn’t work out. Everyone said Tim Couch and Sam Bradford were supposed to be generational type talents. Neither guy worked out. If there’s a chance to make the playoffs then you go for it. 

They have 7 games left.   I think the worst they can go is 5-2 which would be a 9-8 record.   Beating the Saints will be good because of tiebreaker then the Eagles would have head to head over Carolina, Atlanta and The Saints.    But yes they are in the playoff chase.  The key is we have Giants Twice and Washington Twice and Dallas at the end.   We have to take care of business in the division games.   With Atlanta losing, the Eagles moved from 11th to 10th Seed in the Conference.   They could be as high as 7 or 8 with certain losses this weekend.    I know it's hard for some to believe but yes.  The Eagles are in the playoff chase.   

On 11/16/2021 at 12:32 PM, time2rock said:

The fact that a conversation is even remotely possible about the Eagles' chances at making the playoffs is evidence that this team is heading in the right direction after the flustercluck we trotted out there last year.  

I agree with the underlying sentiment ... but have to note that the Eagles were actually in the playoff hunt going into their 15th game (of 16) last year.  Not only was it remotely possible, they would have actually made the playoffs if they had simply won games 15 and 16 against sub-.500 teams.

The point being it is not strictly whether you are actually in the hunt but whether the team looks like it belongs in that hunt.  They didn't the first 5 or 6 weeks of the season, but signs of progress since then are unmistakable and they are definitely ahead of last year from that perspective.

 

Everyone is talking like it is a foregone conclusion that if the Eagles make the playoffs they will wash out in the first game.  But if they do make the playoffs, it will be because they continue to improve, and NONE of the teams at the top of the NFC standings are lighting the league on fire right now.

In the past 2 weeks:

  - Bucs lost twice, 36-27 to NO and 29-19 to Washington,

  - Rams lost twice, 28-16 to TEN and 31-10 (!) to SF,

  - Cardinals lost to Carolina 34-10 (!),

  - Cowboys lost to Denver 30-16,

  - Packers lost to KC 13-7.

So I say, make the playoffs and then let's go!  Don't forget the Eagles have never won the Super Bowl in a season in which they were not the underdogs in every single playoff game.  Underdogs, baby, underdogs!

I know the Eagles supposedly need a quarterback to throw the ball 40 times a game according to some, but since the Eagles have committed to running the football they’re averaging 35 points a game, and are 3-1. They beat two teams who at the time had winning records, and they’re beating up good/great run defenses while doing it. 

If **** Rodgers had been able to beat the Vikings today I think we would be in right now. Wait it censors out D o u c h e? That's a real lady product lol. 

2 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

If **** Rodgers had been able to beat the Vikings today I think we would be in right now. Wait it censors out D o u c h e? That's a real lady product lol. 

True, but it’s not like we’re going to say things like, "Man, I hate when my girl asks me to buy her a ****.”

I no longer have the standard Jim Mora meme floating in my head when that word is mentioned. That running game is nasty. If the D can step it up.... kaboom.