I still feel the same. I don’t care anymore how many 1st round picks we’ll have, as long as Howie is here he will either trade down for 5x 4th round picks in 2040 draft or reach out for someone who’ll be a special teamer by year 3. He’ll then boast about high characters and future draft capital.

Looked back for reagors draft profile and here it was: "—Drops plague his game tape; even accounting for bad throws, he puts too many on the ground."

Seems he was exactly as advertised. Howie makes the head scratching picks far too often. If things hold true only 1 of the 3 first round picks will be good and the others will be busts.

Jalen Reagor. That’s all you need to know about Howie. 

Steven Nelson has 6 pass breakups and one pick in 12 games. Rasul Douglas has 2 picks 8 pass breakups, a forced fumble, and a touchdown in just seven games. Now Howie will Pat himself on the back for drafting Douglas, but should he considering he let him walk out the door? 

3 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Steven Nelson has 6 pass breakups and one pick in 12 games. Rasul Douglas has 2 picks 8 pass breakups, a forced fumble, and a touchdown in just seven games. Now Howie will Pat himself on the back for drafting Douglas, but should he considering he let him walk out the door? 

Players sometimes do better on other teams due to scheme and coaching, or the talent around them.  Teams might be throwing his way if the other corners are stronger.  

Either way, we've had this debate for years.  The GM is supposed to build the entire roster and coaching staff to mesh together.  If they can't match up the right players with the right coaches all these years, then that's a failure on the GM in building the team.  As we've seen, they change identities and philosophy with every coaching change, and each draft Howie is grasping for a theme.  One year it's speed over BPA, another year it's get clones of existing players to replace them, other years just draft the same position multiple times to see what sticks.  He doesn't know what he's doing.

I keep coming back to Lurie's end of year PC where the press drilled him about Howie's well-known bad drafting and Lurie's response was well other teams take the guys Howie wanted ahead of him...what a ridiculous response for a professional sports organization.

15 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

I keep coming back to Lurie's end of year PC where the press drilled him about Howie's well-known bad drafting and Lurie's response was well other teams take the guys Howie wanted ahead of him...what a ridiculous response for a professional sports organization.

The reporters were absolute pusses and should have followed up, this happens a lot, to all teams, and they still draft Pro Bowl level talent, something the Eagles HAVEN'T DONE!  And Mr. Lurie, with all do respect, even with "Those Players" being taken, you decide to draft a WR, Reagor and with the next pick a WR, Jefferson is taken and is an All Pro as a Rookie.  Previously you decide to draft JJAW, and Metcalf is right there.  How can you say your drafting and GM AREN'T AN ISSUE???

4 hours ago, NOTW said:

Players sometimes do better on other teams due to scheme and coaching, or the talent around them.  Teams might be throwing his way if the other corners are stronger.  

Either way, we've had this debate for years.  The GM is supposed to build the entire roster and coaching staff to mesh together.  If they can't match up the right players with the right coaches all these years, then that's a failure on the GM in building the team.  As we've seen, they change identities and philosophy with every coaching change, and each draft Howie is grasping for a theme.  One year it's speed over BPA, another year it's get clones of existing players to replace them, other years just draft the same position multiple times to see what sticks.  He doesn't know what he's doing.

I keep coming back to Lurie's end of year PC where the press drilled him about Howie's well-known bad drafting and Lurie's response was well other teams take the guys Howie wanted ahead of him...what a ridiculous response for a professional sports organization.

Lurie is the one who needs a wake up call. The fact he keeps trotting Howie out there makes me wonder how many of these picks are Howie’s and how many are his? I mean if he got a legit talent evaluator there’s no chance that guy would let Lurie go out there and pick players. The rumors are Lurie picked JJAW. That was kind of an easy pick to spot considering the family is friends with Lurie, but how many more picks are out there that are straight up picks by Jeff? 

Is Howie fist bumping Lurie?

23 hours ago, NOTW said:

Players sometimes do better on other teams due to scheme and coaching, or the talent around them.  Teams might be throwing his way if the other corners are stronger.  

 

Didn't Schwartz expect his corners to be able to cover WRs one on one? Rasul wasn't fast enough for that so yeah, scheme and coaching.

8 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Didn't Schwartz expect his corners to be able to cover WRs one on one? Rasul wasn't fast enough for that so yeah, scheme and coaching.

It's also the GM's jobs to get players that fit the scheme, and coaches that fit the philosophy of what the organization wants to do.  Instead, they change with whatever coach they hire then have to make the players fit.  Look at Cox this year, production lower and complaining about the scheme changes.

Trying to figure out what prompted the OP to start this thread?  Was it because we had a couple of wins against bad to average teams (Detroit, Denver, NO)?  Think that outweighs his horrendous draft decisions??   Nothing is ever going to change with his poor talent evaluation process so I am stuck with wanting him replaced ... the sooner the better.  

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

Trying to figure out what prompted the OP to start this thread?  Was it because we had a couple of wins against bad to average teams (Detroit, Denver, NO)?  Think that outweighs his horrendous draft decisions??   Nothing is ever going to change with his poor talent evaluation process so I am stuck with wanting him replaced ... the sooner the better.  

Yes, a couple wins and certain fans come out of the woodworks to gloat that things are great, a couple losses and the other side shows up saying they were right the team stinks.  

Some of us know Howie is a bad drafter regardless.  

For every 1 good signing or pick there’s 3 bad ones.

On 11/30/2021 at 6:50 PM, EazyEaglez said:

. The rumors are Lurie picked JJAW. That was kind of an easy pick to spot considering the family is friends with Lurie, but how many more picks are out there that are straight up picks by Jeff? 

Eskin--who is no critic of the organization--confirmed that was Lurie's pick.  

Howie has done a lot of good. Howie has made a lot of poor personnel, scouting decisions and contract decisions. He's been ahead of the curve in many cases, and yet, behind it when it comes to team needs, organizational philosophy. I will always want a seasoned veteran talent evaluator and scout to keep Howie in check. But, Lurie gave Howie the reins in the GM and scouting department. Lurie needs to see that he can better help his team and Howie by delegating more to those around him. Howie is often blinded by his own servitude in making decisions. 

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So how do you guys feel about Howie now?

Like Reagor ... still sucks.