The team need to get Huntley on the roster for returns. Get Reagor off the roster or something.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

The team need to get Huntley on the roster for returns. Get Reagor off the roster or something.

I actually think he showed lots of promises on running the ball as well

10 minutes ago, Vlad67 said:

I actually think he showed lots of promises on running the ball as well

Oh for sure... But he's just not going to get in ahead of the 4 guys ahead of him that's the only thing. 

Well that was pretty ordinary all round, if that was genuinely our COVID line up then fair enough but it troubles me that we gave more starters that were available the night off  than a divisional rival that was also in the playoffs and handed them a free fifty burger in our own house.

Reagor and Whiteside should be done here, Whiteside's blocking would have to be good enough to play swing tackle to excuse his god awful route running and hands, that endzone drop would have shamed peak headcase Agholor, and his inability to disguise when he's any sort of pick or rub is embarrassing.

Reagor is just a bust, he isn't going to break out, he's just bad, his college production was spotty and somehow it got blamed on QB play, the fact is he had one good season sandwiched between 2 ordinary ones and whoever put him above Jefferson, Higgins, Aiyuk, Pittman jr and Shenault on our draft board 2 years ago should be fired.

The first quarter and a half were actually pretty encouraging, but when the wheels finally came off and they went 2 scores up they reaaaally came off.

Getting bent over by the cowboy's last game never really bodes well for our playoff chances does it?

 

 

I foresee at least one new CB in the Eagles future.....

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

The team need to get Huntley on the roster for returns. Get Reagor off the roster or something.

Yeah. Maybe the biggest positive of last night is that we now know the RB room is deep, and it’s not just our stellar OL.

31 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Getting bent over by the cowboy's last game never really bodes well for our playoff chances does it?

For some reason I think getting smacked like this increases our chances. Can’t explain it, but if we played all starters and score was reversed I’d feel less confident for next game..

My oversimplified take on the roster/game:

Positives on Offense:

Minshew still has trade value due to playing with a host of backups and performing OK.

The 2nd string O-line can hang with a good set of starting pass rushers for at least one half. They have a lot of work to do, but they at least they don't look like a dumpster fire right out of the gate.

As stated above by others, the RB depth looks pretty darn solid.

Backup TE position produced a little bit.

Quez Watkins is a competent #5 WR and is a keeper in that role.

Negatives on Offense:

Even though the receivers stunk to high heaven, Minshew held the ball more than he should have. Throwing it away is still OK in today's NFL.

JJAW must go yesterday. 100% BUST.

Reagor must go yesterday. 99% BUST.

The rest of the receivers (if any) were invisible. the WR depth on the team is an absolute embarrassment. 

Backup O-line wore down long before the game was over. Need better strength and endurance from that whole group.

 

Positives on Defense: Nothing worth mentioning really.

 

Negatives on Defense:

The backup D-line gets some pressure but can't get home. A lot like the starters this year.

The LB'er play overall wasn't good. It's true for the starters too, but that's another matter.

The secondary had some communication problems to be sure, which left receivers wide open on many plays, but the individual performances were JUCO level talent. Goodbye to all of them is the correct move, but we knew that before the game. The starters aren't a dominant force back there so what could we really expect from the backups.

All 3 levels looked slow, confused at times, and generally overmatch by the talent of the Cowboys starters. Not unexpected, but difficult to watch in real time. This defense has little to no top shelf talent anywhere on the depth chart. Calling Roseman...calling Roseman...

Special Teams:

Kicker was good to go. Jake is having a good year.

Punter sh** the bed. He's much better than that performance. No worries. He'll put that mess behind him.

Coaching:

OK-to-good on offense. They hung in there with a superior opponent up to 17-17. Solid approach with substandard talent.

Ultra conservative on defense trying to avoid giving up the big play. Gave up a bunch of big plays anyway. The talent level isn't NFL quality on the roster so TBF, it's hard to accurately judge the DC. There are warning signs of passivity in his calls that can hurt the team going forward, but he may just be overcompensating for a JUCO roster.

 

GM: Howie built this roster and it's not nearly good enough. Outside of Smith's potential, they've added no game changing top shelf young talent from the draft...none. It's way past due to remove him entirely from the draft process. 

Well, there it is...

1 hour ago, PoconoDon said:

My oversimplified take on the roster/game:

Positives on Offense:

Minshew still has trade value due to playing with a host of backups and performing OK.

The 2nd string O-line can hang with a good set of starting pass rushers for at least one half. They have a lot of work to do, but they at least they don't look like a dumpster fire right out of the gate.

As stated above by others, the RB depth looks pretty darn solid.

Backup TE position produced a little bit.

Quez Watkins is a competent #5 WR and is a keeper in that role.

Negatives on Offense:

Even though the receivers stunk to high heaven, Minshew held the ball more than he should have. Throwing it away is still OK in today's NFL.

JJAW must go yesterday. 100% BUST.

Reagor must go yesterday. 99% BUST.

The rest of the receivers (if any) were invisible. the WR depth on the team is an absolute embarrassment. 

Backup O-line wore down long before the game was over. Need better strength and endurance from that whole group.

 

Positives on Defense: Nothing worth mentioning really.

 

Negatives on Defense:

The backup D-line gets some pressure but can't get home. A lot like the starters this year.

The LB'er play overall wasn't good. It's true for the starters too, but that's another matter.

The secondary had some communication problems to be sure, which left receivers wide open on many plays, but the individual performances were JUCO level talent. Goodbye to all of them is the correct move, but we knew that before the game. The starters aren't a dominant force back there so what could we really expect from the backups.

All 3 levels looked slow, confused at times, and generally overmatch by the talent of the Cowboys starters. Not unexpected, but difficult to watch in real time. This defense has little to no top shelf talent anywhere on the depth chart. Calling Roseman...calling Roseman...

Special Teams:

Kicker was good to go. Jake is having a good year.

Punter sh** the bed. He's much better than that performance. No worries. He'll put that mess behind him.

Coaching:

OK-to-good on offense. They hung in there with a superior opponent up to 17-17. Solid approach with substandard talent.

Ultra conservative on defense trying to avoid giving up the big play. Gave up a bunch of big plays anyway. The talent level isn't NFL quality on the roster so TBF, it's hard to accurately judge the DC. There are warning signs of passivity in his calls that can hurt the team going forward, but he may just be overcompensating for a JUCO roster.

 

GM: Howie built this roster and it's not nearly good enough. Outside of Smith's potential, they've added no game changing top shelf young talent from the draft...none. It's way past due to remove him entirely from the draft process. 

Well, there it is...

I thought Milton Williams was a positive on defense.  Besides that, you're right, it was abysmal. 

2 hours ago, Infam said:

Yeah. Maybe the biggest positive of last night is that we now know the RB room is deep, and it’s not just our stellar OL.

I thought the OL struggled a little last night but hey it was all back ups. 

3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Oh for sure... But he's just not going to get in ahead of the 4 guys ahead of him that's the only thing. 

Maybe...but 2 of those 4 are quite injury prone and Gainwell isn't that far ahead I guess

Glad I turned that one off when I did. Even with the third and 4th stringers in they should be embarrassed. They’ve given up over 90 points to Dallas this year in 2 games. Let that sink in. I really hope they don’t see each other in the playoffs. I’m fine losing just not to Dallas.

I drifted off some time at the beginning of the second half, only to glance at the screen and see a 50. Couldn't watch that embarrassment. Running up the score felt unsportsmanlike and petty. Maybe the Eagles would've done the same if the lineup were capable of it. 

10 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Plenty of people on this board are saying the same things about Hurts. I don't share that opinion, but hey ... if it's wrong to defend Hurts I guess we both need to stop. 

Hurts actually performs out there. Reagor doesn’t really. Think for a moment. Reagor and Watkins at times in this past game was the only Starting receiver out there and Reagor had 2 frigggin catches and you’re defending it. It’s ridiculous, and trying to flip this argument into a Hurts thing is actually a straw man argument. 

9 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

I wouldn't give Reagor the grade of suck for every game he isn't great.  He's earned the suck grade before,  but in this game he was better than suck.  JJAW sucked.  On the other hand, the game didn't matter really. 

Reagor had two catches in this game. He had more carries today than receptions with 29 total yards. He was not good at all today. Smith was good. Watkins was good, but Reagor was far from good. He was just slightly better than JJAW who was absolutely bad.

Can they put one of their backup RB's at WR???!!!

22 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Hurts actually performs out there. Reagor doesn’t really. Think for a moment. Reagor and Watkins at times in this past game was the only Starting receiver out there and Reagor had 2 frigggin catches and you’re defending it. It’s ridiculous, and trying to flip this argument into a Hurts thing is actually a straw man argument. 

 Reagor was targeted 3 times . One was a poorly thrown ball. You're faulting him for something he couldn't control. That is the type of thing I "defend" players from in arguments. It's stupid to complain about a guy that did his job on his opportunities. That's like saying George Kittle sucked in the 2019 NFCCG because he only had 1 catch for 19 yards. Forget that his QB only threw 8 passes the whole game. 

 

BTW, I didn't "flip" it into a Hurts thing. I drew a comparison. Hurts has played well at times. He has also played poorly at times. Some people choose to dwell entirely on the poor times / plays. That's what you are doing with Reagor. Since this is about Reagor, tell me --- what play or plays specifically did he really screw up out there today? You're just like the people that hate Hurts. You're mind is made up and you manufacture gripes and point the finger at players you dislike. Forget that this defense had no business starting a regular season game with the personnel it had and gift-wrapped TDs to the opponent all day. Forget that Minshew played mostly behind a makeshift line all day and rarely got his feet set. Let's blame Reagor for having 2 receptions. 

2 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

 Reagor was targeted 3 times . One was a poorly thrown ball. You're faulting him for something he couldn't control. That is the type of thing I "defend" players from in arguments. It's stupid to complain about a guy that did his job on his opportunities. That's like saying George Kittle sucked in the 2019 NFCCG because he only had 1 catch for 19 yards. Forget that his QB only threw 8 passes the whole game. 

 

BTW, I didn't "flip" it into a Hurts thing. I drew a comparison. Hurts has played well at times. He has also played poorly at times. Some people choose to dwell entirely on the poor times / plays. That's what you are doing with Reagor. Since this is about Reagor, tell me --- what play or plays specifically did he really screw up out there today? You're just like the people that hate Hurts. You're mind is made up and you manufacture gripes and point the finger at players you dislike. Forget that this defense had no business starting a regular season game with the personnel it had and gift-wrapped TDs to the opponent all day. Forget that Minshew played mostly behind a makeshift line all day and rarely got his feet set. Let's blame Reagor for having 2 receptions. 

Reagor played in 17 games this year and somehow managed to have less yards than when he played in 11 games as a rookie. Hurts has improved in every way from his rookie season to this point. These two players aren’t remotely the same and your argument is weak. 

33 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

 Reagor was targeted 3 times . One was a poorly thrown ball. You're faulting him for something he couldn't control. That is the type of thing I "defend" players from in arguments. It's stupid to complain about a guy that did his job on his opportunities. That's like saying George Kittle sucked in the 2019 NFCCG because he only had 1 catch for 19 yards. Forget that his QB only threw 8 passes the whole game. 

 

BTW, I didn't "flip" it into a Hurts thing. I drew a comparison. Hurts has played well at times. He has also played poorly at times. Some people choose to dwell entirely on the poor times / plays. That's what you are doing with Reagor. Since this is about Reagor, tell me --- what play or plays specifically did he really screw up out there today? You're just like the people that hate Hurts. You're mind is made up and you manufacture gripes and point the finger at players you dislike. Forget that this defense had no business starting a regular season game with the personnel it had and gift-wrapped TDs to the opponent all day. Forget that Minshew played mostly behind a makeshift line all day and rarely got his feet set. Let's blame Reagor for having 2 receptions. 

When exactly has Reagor played well at times?

3 hours ago, Vlad67 said:

Maybe...but 2 of those 4 are quite injury prone and Gainwell isn't that far ahead I guess

I think Gainwell should be a long way ahead. 

27 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Reagor played in 17 games this year and somehow managed to have less yards than when he played in 11 games as a rookie. Hurts has improved in every way from his rookie season to this point. These two players aren’t remotely the same and your argument is weak. 

Last year in one less game, we threw 104 more passes on the season. Our leading receiver last year was Ward with 53 receptions. Our leading receiver by yards was Fulgham with 539 yards. This year, despite fewer passes being thrown, our leading receiver was Smith with 64 receptions for 916 yards.  Our second leading receiver was Goedert with 56-830. Our 3rd leading receiver was Watkins with 43-647. Reagor was 4th with 33-299. 

Some people felt Reagor would have a breakout season with the arrival of Smith. It did not happen. Watkins had the breakout season. For the most part, Reagor replaced Ward. Even though Reagor's numbers are disappointing, there was a YPR improvement (9.1) over Ward's 7.9 last year. The offense and QB style are both a lot different from last year to this year. Those things are factors in the final product. It will be Sirianni's job to find a way to improve the production from Reagor or whoever might replace him next season. Obviously Reagor will have to put in the work on his end to get better as a player. But if you want me to conclude that improvement can't happen, then I feel that's just being dumb. We don't know if it will happen. Pretending it won't is still just pretending. 

24 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

When exactly has Reagor played well at times?

I'm not sure he had any games where he didn't have a bad moment, but he had a pretty good week 1. I thought he was playing well vs the Lions until he sprained his ankle. Late in the season, I felt he was making better decisions as a PR. I thought this was a good play by him. 

Wentz collapsing vs. Jags. Ya hate to see it! 

6 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Wentz collapsing vs. Jags. Ya hate to see it! 

You really do you just hate to see it...

 

51 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

You really do you just hate to see it...

 

Win for the Eagles, because it improves our draft position. Beanbaggers having to shut the heck up. Priceless. 😂🤣😂