Cheesteakitis Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said: There is no way Rodgers is in GB next year, and everyone in Seattle is talking like the band is about to break up. Watson HAS to be traded, Jimmy G HAS to be traded, Carr/Cousins/Tua/Wentz/Foles/Mayfield are all potentially on the move. This season may have the most QB turnover in NFL history. When it ends, if Hurts is still our "only realistic option,” then there was front office failure of a systemic level. i like carr the most on the list won 4 straight to give them a chance at getting in and has a lot of close wins/ comebacks. plus throws a pretty good deep ball i wouldn’t mind seeing him throw to watkins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogyman Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 This is a typical knee jerk reaction after a loss. It was the first playoff game for a rookie head coach and a roster where more than half the players have never played in the postseason, against a team with a ton more talent. Of course they "didn't look ready". I am worried about the QB position though. Maybe they make a splashy trade, or maybe they roll with Hurts for another year and just look to improve the rest of the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerolithe_Lion Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 28 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: Rodgers isn’t going anywhere. Watson is a wildcard and I read last week that he might stay in Houston if they hire Brian Flores. Regardless, he has a no trade clause and has already floated his desired destinations. Spoiler alert: Philly isn’t on the list. Wilson is pure conjecture. I’m guessing they’re not in a hurry to get Wentz back. Cousins has a $45 million dollar cap charge next year and is not anybody’s QB of the future. Neither is Foles. Tua? Mayfield??? Denial is a powerful tool but reality intrudes. Rodgers might retire if they don’t trade him. Do you not remember he badmouthed GB and openly said he doesn’t want to be there? He likely made an agreement with the team that this will be his last year if she shows up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I find it hilarious people think if this team got a new quarterback suddenly Reagor can play and the defense can stop good quarterbacks. Good luck with that. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerolithe_Lion Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said: I find it hilarious people think if this team got a new quarterback suddenly Reagor can play and the defense can stop good quarterbacks. Good luck with that. How much of what TB did was based on turnovers by our O, sacks, field position? A new QB absolutely can improve his defense’s performance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said: Rodgers might retire if they don’t trade him. He likely made an agreement with the team that this will be his last year if she shows up If he wins the Super Bowl this year, I could see him retiring. But he’s not moving to Philadelphia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, D-Shiznit said: Just get us a franchise QB, that's all I ask for this Off-Season. With that defense a franchise QB won't help much, he'll always be playing from behind and forced to drop back too often. When good defense know you have to throw the ball they pin their ears back causing havoc for your QB leading to three and outs. The Eagles need to fix the defense before worrying about a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said: How much of what TB did was based on turnovers by our O, sacks, field position? A new QB absolutely can improve his defense’s performance Tampa basically powered it down by the second quarter. The only reason they even got to Brady, because he lost two all pro lineman. This team isn’t a quarterback away. You’re fooling yourself if you think that. This offense is still running around with one arm tied behind its back with Reagor out there. Both Jalen’s were horrible, but penalties, and all of the typical Eagles stuff were all still there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: I find it hilarious people think if this team got a new quarterback suddenly Reagor can play and the defense can stop good quarterbacks. Good luck with that. Has anyone said that? I don't see that in this topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Just now, NOTW said: Has anyone said that? I don't see that in this topic. People thinking a quarterback will make this team better. Sure it could, but they will not be good enough. Just too many holes on this roster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: People thinking a quarterback will make this team better. Sure it could, but they will not be good enough. Just too many holes on this roster. Well yes an upgrade at QB would make the team better, same with DE or LB or anything. But you said people thought a new QB would make Reagor and the defense better. No one said that, people just want an upgrade at QB. Granted, a better QB helps the receivers and a good offense helps the defense. Hurts doesn't go through reads and has missed open guys all year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, NOTW said: Hurts doesn't go through reads and has missed open guys all year. That's his problem, it's a matter of not having his head in the game totally not seeing open receivers. I still take the stance that some of that has to be on the play calling, don't give him options where to go with the football and specify no running unless there's a massive breakdown on the OL, in other words force him to play QB. All season long I'm wondering why aren't they throwing to Watkins deep, yesterday when they went to him deep on several occasions he was open, they need to understand that they are not many DBs that's going to run with Watkins, get all of those defenders out of the box by throwing to Watkins deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipples Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Procus said: True, but the head coach is also limited by his own limitations. What are those limitations? Clear examples? I thought Siri showed A LOT this year to be optimistic about. I can’t even blame him for that game yesterday because what is he supposed to do really? Tampa was stacking the box and shutting down the run, but his QB couldn’t execute on a pass over 10 yards (if that). 14 minutes ago, EagleVA said: That's his problem, it's a matter of not having his head in the game totally not seeing open receivers. I still take the stance that some of that has to be on the play calling, don't give him options where to go with the football and specify no running unless there's a massive breakdown on the OL, in other words force him to play QB. All season long I'm wondering why aren't they throwing to Watkins deep, yesterday when they went to him deep on several occasions he was open, they need to understand that they are not many DBs that's going to run with Watkins, get all of those defenders out of the box by throwing to Watkins deep. They tried that. Hurts has zero accuracy on the deep ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipples Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: People thinking a quarterback will make this team better. Sure it could, but they will not be good enough. Just too many holes on this roster. I’ve defended Hurts over the last few weeks, but a good QB absolutely would have kept that game competitive. There were a ton of missed opportunities. Either open receivers being completely missed or passes that were late and/or off target. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procus Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, nipples said: What are those limitations? I thought Siri was good building culture for the team. Not as good on game day calling a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipples Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Procus said: I thought Siri was good building culture for the team. Not as good on game day calling a game. We will agree to disagree then. I think his playcalling has been very solid. Yesterday he just had no options. You’ve got a stacked box shutting down the run game, and a QB who was terrible. There was just nothing that was going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil77 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 A new QB would do wonders for our passing game so many missed opportunities all season long. If there is a chance to upgrade you have to pull the trigger. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miami Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Eagles will take another step forward if they can find a good QB and add some fierce pass rush. And a bell cow RB who can carry the load. Only talking about 4-6 players but they have to be ballers. No more Reagors please. Surely Lurie and Howie can see now that they should defer to the experts on player evaluations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opa-opa Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Give Minshew a chance. That's all I'm asking for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleVA Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 44 minutes ago, nipples said: They tried that. They didn't try enough. 31 minutes ago, phil77 said: A new QB would do wonders for our passing game so many missed opportunities all season long. If there is a chance to upgrade you have to pull the trigger. If Matt Corral is there when they pick I'd pull the trigger on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I do think next year is going to be a bit of a struggle. I do think that in terms of record this team will take a step back. I think they have a tough schedule (though plenty can and will change) and I think they are going to struggle. This is not a play off worthy roster. They got in on the basis of a weak schedule. But look they made it in. They made it and they showed something this year. Sirianni showed promise as a rookie HC. I'd expect him to be better next year on that basis. Smith looked like a stud and if you give him better QB play he'll do even more. Goedert is a legit #1 (though needs to work on the drops). This team needs a real boost in talent especially on defense there's no doubt. But they have 3 first round picks and they have cap space. In the light of a heavy and bad defeat its easy to look at the doom and gloom. And look there are absolutely things with this team that concern me. Howie in the draft. Hurts as the current QB next year. Gannon as DC. But there is also reason for some hope. After all if we have no hope then what are we supporting? The hope is we turn things around and we go and win another SB. That's why we are fans and why we follow a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, NOTW said: Well yes an upgrade at QB would make the team better, same with DE or LB or anything. But you said people thought a new QB would make Reagor and the defense better. No one said that, people just want an upgrade at QB. Granted, a better QB helps the receivers and a good offense helps the defense. Hurts doesn't go through reads and has missed open guys all year. Hurts was bad against the Bucs. I just don’t see another quarterback being enough to overcome the many other deficiencies with this roster and unfortunately going after one of the bigger names kills any chance of this team being able to effectively upgrade those positions. The move for the quarterback isn’t 2022. It’s 2023. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Hurts was bad against the Bucs. I just don’t see another quarterback being enough to overcome the many other deficiencies with this roster and unfortunately going after one of the bigger names kills any chance of this team being able to effectively upgrade those positions. The move for the quarterback isn’t 2022. It’s 2023. And I agree with that. It is why the Eagles are stuck a little and I'm expecting a year or two of struggle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said: Hurts was bad against the Bucs. I just don’t see another quarterback being enough to overcome the many other deficiencies with this roster and unfortunately going after one of the bigger names kills any chance of this team being able to effectively upgrade those positions. The move for the quarterback isn’t 2022. It’s 2023. Well there are other problems for sure. Coaching, defense, talent at WR apart from Smith. But a really good QB would have this team playing better just because of finding the open receivers more often, getting the ball to Smith and Goedert, reading the defense better, etc. But there's a lot of improvement to go all around, even special teams. Going against defending SB champs was always going to be tough, but it exposed all the weak areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: And I agree with that. It is why the Eagles are stuck a little and I'm expecting a year or two of struggle. I just hope they stay the course and use these picks to improve the roster with younger players and more favorable contracts. They have to dig themselves out of the cap mess they created for themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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